The Trump problem

Trump represents years of GOP southern strategy and dog whistles against minorities of all makes and models. The other day we are in a restaurant and a few Muslim families were there too. And even though I am of mixed heritage I pass for a whitey. I thought what do these families think of this nation today and even of me as I found myself at times looking in their direction. It was a rather odd thought as how can we apologize for just how stupid America looks today when Trump is the best a major party can hold up as an example. But the republicans created this phenomenon and once again America demonizes immigrants as it has Catholics, Irish, Italians, etc etc. Anyone who thinks tribalism is over there only, has blinders on. Read this book. http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?62478-Dog-Whistle-Politics

 
midcan5 said:
Trump represents years of GOP southern strategy and dog whistles against minorities of all makes and models. The other day we are in a restaurant and a few Muslim families were there too. And even though I am of mixed heritage I pass for a whitey. I thought what do these families think of this nation today and even of me as I found myself at times looking in their direction. It was a rather odd thought as how can we apologize for just how stupid America looks today when Trump is the best a major party can hold up as an example. But the republicans created this phenomenon and once again America demonizes immigrants as it has Catholics, Irish, Italians, etc etc. Anyone who thinks tribalism is over there only, has blinders on. Read this book. http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?62478-Dog-Whistle-Politics

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One of my FB friends says something similar. Like how embarrassing it is having Trump lead the republican race.

I was like 'where have you been hiding the last 8 years?' The US hasn't been a bigger laughing stock on the world stage in my lifetime. HRC, a known and proven liar leads the democrat race; a sizeable segment of the electorate would, and I mean this literally, vote for her if dead bodies started turning up around her house. A socialist is in second place on the democrat side and they want to talk about how embarrassing Trump is??

Lol k.
 
midcan5 said:
Trump represents years of GOP southern strategy and dog whistles against minorities of all makes and models.
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So clearly the optimal vessel for this strategy would be a New York City billionaire, who throws around Yiddish words like "schmuck" and "schlong," and who collects daily vitriol from the Republican establishment.

Sorry, but you're clueless.

Trump is the product of decades of pearl-clutching politically correct hypocrisy that aborted any meaningful political dialog. Broaching the subject of illegal immigration translated into "hate Mexicans," abortion became "hate women," ad infinitum.

Those premises are ridiculous and normal Americans have been waiting for someone to smash them.

He's added new perspectives to American politics that no one has been addressing, like: Who are these people negotiating these lousy international deals?

I find it amazing that a billionaire can articulate the blue collar position so well: "I don't need government working for me. I just need it to not work against me."

Meanwhile, we live in a dangerous world. Our enemies are not going to be impressed by leaders who run across the schoolyard to the teacher saying "Miss Media, Donald just called me names."

Or a woman who can't pee if there's another woman in the restroom.

Or a doddering geriatric socialist who writes rape fantasies.

The American people have sat back and allowed the grand political establishment to guide their choices for decades, and they see the devastating results. The game is over now. The more organized attacks that come Trump's way will simply translate into stronger support.

And as a New Yorker myself, I'm entirely amused that a presidential candidate is using Yiddish and it gets no discussion as a cultural phenomenon. Nothing could possibly make a national candidate seem more "New York City" than Yiddish, which is normally a no-no. Trump is truly untouchable.
 
Damocles said:
Trump does not have the support of the evangelicals. He has a "special place" where he keeps bibles, it's very nice. Trump's support comes from the middle. These people are angry and want an outsider, but they don't want an evangelical or an ideologue. Instead they are supporting a progressive populist.

That being said. Most people who didn't want to vote for McCain or Dole will feel less reticence if Trump is the nominee. So while most do not want the guy, he's better than McCain...
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Taft2016 said:
So clearly the optimal vessel for this strategy would be a New York City billionaire, who throws around Yiddish words like "schmuck" and "schlong," and who collects daily vitriol from the Republican establishment.

Sorry, but you're clueless.

Trump is the product of decades of pearl-clutching politically correct hypocrisy that aborted any meaningful political dialog. Broaching the subject of illegal immigration translated into "hate Mexicans," abortion became "hate women," ad infinitum.

Those premises are ridiculous and normal Americans have been waiting for someone to smash them.

He's added new perspectives to American politics that no one has been addressing, like: Who are these people negotiating these lousy international deals?

I find it amazing that a billionaire can articulate the blue collar position so well: "I don't need government working for me. I just need it to not work against me."

Meanwhile, we live in a dangerous world. Our enemies are not going to be impressed by leaders who run across the schoolyard to the teacher saying "Miss Media, Donald just called me names."

Or a woman who can't pee if there's another woman in the restroom.

Or a doddering geriatric socialist who writes rape fantasies.

The American people have sat back and allowed the grand political establishment to guide their choices for decades, and they see the devastating results. The game is over now. The more organized attacks that come Trump's way will simply translate into stronger support.

And as a New Yorker myself, I'm entirely amused that a presidential candidate is using Yiddish and it gets no discussion as a cultural phenomenon. Nothing could possibly make a national candidate seem more "New York City" than Yiddish, which is normally a no-no. Trump is truly untouchable.
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The above posts sufficiently wrap up another dimwitted Trump bashing thread. NEXT.

Maybe leftists will finally fulfill their promise during the second Bush election and actually leave the country for France or some other Socialist utopia in Europe after a Trump victory?
 
midcan5 said:
Trump represents years of GOP southern strategy and dog whistles against minorities of all makes and models
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this statement right here is one of the biggest reasons why people in the middle are supporting trump. they are tired of being called racists by idiot liberals who have nothing other than ad homs.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
One of my FB friends says something similar. Like how embarrassing it is having Trump lead the republican race.

I was like 'where have you been hiding the last 8 years?' The US hasn't been a bigger laughing stock on the world stage in my lifetime. HRC, a known and proven liar leads the democrat race; a sizeable segment of the electorate would, and I mean this literally, vote for her if dead bodies started turning up around her house. A socialist is in second place on the democrat side and they want to talk about how embarrassing Trump is??

Lol k.
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They're all known and proven liars but Trump leads the pack.
 
Every time it's time for a Presidential election, people on both sides of the political fence comment about how big business and special interest groups have too much pull / sway / say so in who gets elected and how they wish a candidate would just say what they really mean / think.

Now flash forward to now and both sides are looking at Trump and the very same people are going, OH-FUCK!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
 
SmarterthanYou said:
all of them are liars, left and right. it's why they are politicians. the sad part of it is that you either believe their lies or just don't care about their lies and are voting for a party, not a candidate.
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You're not making sense here. If they're all liars then it shouldn't matter who you vote for, party or candidate. What are you saying, your liar's better than my liar?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Every time it's time for a Presidential election, people on both sides of the political fence comment about how big business and special interest groups have too much pull / sway / say so in who gets elected and how they wish a candidate would just say what they really mean / think.

Now flash forward to now and both sides are looking at Trump and the very same people are going, OH-FUCK!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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Indeed.

For all of those years I watched Manny Pacquiao ascend, conventional wisdom always told me, "Oh, oh, this guy's too big for Manny," "this guy's too big and strong for Manny," "this guy's too big, too strong, and too fast for Manny."

Sometimes conventional wisdom doesn't apply.

Don't be surprised to see New York in play. It'll be a Queens native who spouts blue-collar wisdom infused with Yiddish against a carpet-bagging liar who falsely claims Jewish heritage.

We have considerable libtard population, but we also have a Republican population that has been waiting for something other than the go-along-to-get-alongs for quite some time. We're still the only state that ever sent a third party conservative to the US Senate.
 
Trump does way worse in polls vs Clinton
Bush is the only one polling within 2 percent
Trump would be crushed
Thus the loser gets dropped soon
 
The Dude said:
Trump does way worse in polls vs Clinton
Bush is the only one polling within 2 percent
Trump would be crushed
Thus the loser gets dropped soon
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The last poll I saw was Clinton at plus 7 which is close to the margin. Nearly meaningless at this stage of the game, actually. Also, the trend is hardly comforting if your hoping for another Clinton and 4 more years of Obama's failed policies.

Trump has tightened the numbers considerably over the last several months. HRC may have a casual relationship with the truth, but she isn't stupid. I doubt she shares in your confidence.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The last poll I saw was Clinton at plus 7 which is close to the margin. Nearly meaningless at this stage of the game, actually. Also, the trend is hardly comforting if your hoping for another Clinton and 4 more years of Obama's failed policies.

Trump has tightened the numbers considerably over the last several months. HRC may have a casual relationship with the truth, but she isn't stupid. I doubt she shares in your confidence.
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Trump down 7
All other real candidates down 2
This clown is done
I will buy the whole board a beer for 8 more years of this economy
 
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