The top ten POOREST states are all RED states: MS, WV, AL, LA, KY, AR, SC, OK, TN, TX

LV426 said:
If you think AA is racism, then you are a fucking racist.
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Disagreed, but it's amazing you follow me around so much if that's what you truly believe, Ms. LV
LV426 said:
Didn't backpedal at all, and in fact, said that very thing when I talked about Atlanta.

You're just not having a good day today.
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We can agree to disagree on that point. :)
LV426 said:
How did I do that?
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By acknowledging that the reason people are leaving high cost areas like the NE and California is for states offering lower cost of living and opportunity. Why else would the numbers in MAGA Man's post reflect the change?

LV426 said:
Because that's stupid and you're not arguing for limited growth, you're arguing for NO GROWTH.

Fewer people live in those small towns today than even ten years ago...most of the country's population lives in or adjacent to big urban areas.

And why? Because that's where the opportunities lie.

You hear all the time about people leaving their podunk trash towns for the big city, but you don't really hear people leaving the big city to go to a podunk trash town.
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In my rural area, sweetie, not all of Texas.

True most jobs are in the cities.

Sure, young people want adventure and the sights and sounds of the Big City. Do you recall what happened to all the Yuppies and Guppies after 9/11?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Disagreed, but it's amazing you follow me around so much if that's what you truly believe, Ms. LV
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To think AA is racism is to deny institutional racism exists, which created the need for AA and that need still exists today as y'all helpfully pointed out on this thread.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
We can agree to disagree on that point.
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No we can't because I didn't do what you accused me of doing.


Dutch Uncle said:
By acknowledging that the reason people are leaving high cost areas like the NE and California is for states offering lower cost of living and opportunity.
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They aren't leaving high cost areas...they're leaving LOW COST areas because they're pathetic and garbage:

Rural America Lost Population Over the Past Decade for the First Time in History
https://carsey.unh.edu/publication-...s was,counties, population gains were minimal.

More people left rural America in the last decade than left California.

So those people who left CA...where in CA did they live? Not in LA or SF, but inland, right? The rural areas of CA lost population, but the urban centers didn't. Not to the degree that the rest of rural America saw.

Between 2011 and 2020, Los Angeles GAINED ~200,000 people.

Between 2011 and 2020, San Francisco GAINED ~100,000 people.
 
LV426 said:
To think AA is racism is to deny institutional racism exists, which created the need for AA and that need still exists today as y'all helpfully pointed out on this thread.
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On the contrary, dear, I readily agree institutionalize racism exists. One example is AA.

Only idiots think we can get rid of racism by creating racist political policies.
 
LV426 said:
Watching Flash discover institutional racism exists has got to be my most favorite JPP moment ever.
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And having LV426 realize that political parties and their policies have done nothing for racism is very revealing. That blacks are at the bottom in income and educational achievement in almost (?) every state tells us Democrats and Republicans don't affect the outcome. Yet, the races often attend the very same institutions.
 
LV426 said:
Ah...so now you're starting to understand institutional racism!!!

Well, at least you got there eventually...only took you about a decade to catch up.
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What you call "institutional racism" is a simplistic term for complex societal problems. If you wanted to prove institutional racism exists, how do you measure it?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
They aren't which is why it's bullshit to claim the Republicans are doing the same to the poor in blue states.
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We hear regularly from the JPP liberals that the rich are oppressing the poor working class. How can that be any less true in blue than red states.

Those same posters tell us how we should increase taxes on the rich and redistribute that money to help the lower income.

Yet, when we tax the blue states higher and redistribute it to the red states they complain.
 
LV426 said:
Well, you're in a minority there, and by moving to a state like Texas, flipped your tax burden on the states you came from since those states have to pick up the tab of states like Texas, who get more in spending than they contribute in revenue most years because wages are too low there for people to pay their tax bill.

Oh, and we had to bail out Texas in 2015 because the price of oil cratered thanks to OPEC production increases.
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Texas has a dependency score of 13.5 of 100. It is number #38 of all states for federal dependency.

Which State Budgets Rely on the Most Federal Aid | MoneyGeek.com
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's not a reading, it's a question.

Anyone who answers a question with a question is hiding something. What are you hiding, Martin?

Lemme guess; you wanted to make a snarky post about fat-assed rednecks, but most of those "rednecks" aren't white. LOL

Let's drop the political agenda bullshit and point out the real problem: it's cheaper in America to eat fatty, sugar-laden foods than healthy foods. Why? Because fat and sugar are by-products of healthier foods. Ergo, the US is one of the few nations of the world where our poor are fat and our rich are less fat.

Example: There's nice, lean steaks for $10/lb and then there's fatty hamburger for $3/lb.

Hamburger being anything that's not lean steak. LOL
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You couldn’t tell in two sentences and a link that I answered it with an answer.
 
LV426 said:
Yeah, but you have to live in Texas.

For most people, that's a non-starter.
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Good point. Texas won't let you shit in the street.

It is not a non-starter for those 60,000 Californians who follow their high tech jobs to Texas every year.
 
Flash said:
Texas has a dependency score of 13.5 of 100. It is number #38 of all states for federal dependency.

Which State Budgets Rely on the Most Federal Aid | MoneyGeek.com
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This is really neither here nor there but it's interesting that they try and label every state blue or red as if no purple states in this country exist. (Thinking of Arizona that voted for Biden and has two Democratic Senators but is considered Red. And Georgia that voted for Biden and has two Democratic Senators and is considered Red.)
 
LV426 said:
They aren't leaving high cost areas...they're leaving LOW COST areas because they're pathetic and garbage
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That attitude defines you, LV. It's another reason why, IMO, you are just a LW version of a Trumper.
 
Flash said:
We hear regularly from the JPP liberals that the rich are oppressing the poor working class. How can that be any less true in blue than red states.

Those same posters tell us how we should increase taxes on the rich and redistribute that money to help the lower income.

Yet, when we tax the blue states higher and redistribute it to the red states they complain.
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Exactly. It's a non sequitur. Some want to have it both ways and reality doesn't work that way.
 
cawacko said:
This is really neither here nor there but it's interesting that they try and label every state blue or red as if no purple states in this country exist. (Thinking of Arizona that voted for Biden and has two Democratic Senators but is considered Red. And Georgia that voted for Biden and has two Democratic Senators and is considered Red.)
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Arizona is considered light blue, Georgia was considered red but is no longer.
 
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