The Science Is Very Clear: Schools Should Reopen This Fall

Sailor said:
Wow Mott. I probably know as much about science as you. If not, I am sure I could figure it out. The gist of this article that all the left on here want to gloss over quickly is the teacher unions refusing to go back unless demands are met that have nothing at all to do with Covid. Medicare for all, De-funding police, taxing rich people. That is what they want. All political. Nothing related to children safety. So, to put it bluntly, you can blow it your ass. The only thing you or any other "expert" on this site about the transmission of Covid is limited to what you read. And that changes every, fucking day. Anyone can parrot what another idiot says. The left is great at it.
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It’s bullshit.

Democrats and the Teachers Unions are using kid’s lives and futures for leverage on their wish list and to try and bring Trump down.

‘Deplorable’ is too good a word for them.
 
crowonapost said:
I would be the first to admit for kids trying to stare at a screen learning all day is like pouring acid down their throat, lol. Now if it were all games.... maybe for a bit but kids do need physical outlet, interactions and group play. With all that said we are having to face a new normal and going back to the way things were when we have no contact tracing and no way to limit the scope of this sadly just will not happen.
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It hasn't been deadly to kids. And studies show that kids don't transmit to adults. Mix in safety precautions, and we should be good to go.
 
Irish said:
It hasn't been deadly to kids. And studies show that kids don't transmit to adults. Mix in safety precautions, and we should be good to go.
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Schools have reopened in Europe and Asia and have largely avoided Corona outbreaks. This article is from the left leaning Washington Post stating it clearly. Funny how the left in this country thinks they know more science than European and Asian countries who follow the same science. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/schools-reopening-coronavirus/2020/07/10/865fb3e6-c122-11ea-8908-68a2b9eae9e0_story.html
 
Irish said:
It hasn't been deadly to kids. And studies show that kids don't transmit to adults. Mix in safety precautions, and we should be good to go.
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Care to show those studies of this magical virus which, unlike any other fucking virus on the planet, doesn't transmit from kids to adults?
 
Irish said:
Check up your asshole.
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Translation: I have no idea about facts. Trump says kids can't transfer COVID-19 to adults and I suck it up like a groupie sucking a rock star's cock.

LOL. Anyone here who is educated and sane knows children can pass any virus on to any non-immune adult. ZERO. Nada. Zip. You are claiming only one such virus exists: COVID-19. That, my friend, is 100% bullshit. Check your facts.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Care to show those studies of this magical virus which, unlike any other fucking virus on the planet, doesn't transmit from kids to adults?
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There’s no ‘consensus’ but there is evidence that kids to adult transmission is minimal. Don’t weary me with anecdotes.

And if kids to adults was the same as adult to adult, I fail to see why that matters. Why should kids be penalized when so many adults are taking to the streets and pissing on the guidelines?

There’s an argument to be made that kids are our most valuable resource—they are going to lead the country one day. And Democrats want to play political football with their futures.

It’s grotesque.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Translation: I have no idea about facts. Trump says kids can't transfer COVID-19 to adults and I suck it up like a groupie sucking a rock star's cock.

LOL. Anyone here who is educated and sane knows children can pass any virus on to any non-immune adult. ZERO. Nada. Zip. You are claiming only one such virus exists: COVID-19. That, my friend, is 100% bullshit. Check your facts.
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https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/30/children-dont-pass-covid-19-to-adults-report-indicates/
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Thanks for the link. A couple of thoughts:

The article has a lot of qualifiers and was published April 30th. Literally a lifetime ago for over 80,000 Americans.

The article lists China and WHO as the main sources of information. Are you now asserting that you believe China and WHO reports on COVID-19?
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In some respects Maybe. The main stream media believes everything the WHO and China reports. Why shouldn't you?
 
Irish said:
In some respects Maybe. The main stream media believes everything the WHO and China reports. Why shouldn't you?
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You're the one who used it as evidence, not me....and it didn't say what you claim it said. It had a lot of qualifiers.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Tom, it doesn’t matter. Left, right or center they are not peer reviewed journals and they are the epitome of confirmation bias. The peer review process amply shows that there is no consensus what so ever on transmission rates from schools due largely to lack of data or systemic approaches to sampling and collecting data.
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Sorry I just don't buy that, children have gone back to school in many countries now without any problems. Meanwhile poor kids are going to get no education and probably end up as the next generation of morons.
 
floridafan said:
You got another losing position, bubba. Parents favor keeping their kids home, rather than exposing them to the virus. Its no wonder trump is losing by double digits, he takes the wrong position on everything.
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I would think most parents favor going back to work, unless the feds just decide to keep printing checks for everyone.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
The closures and social distancing has had a devastating impact on small businesses to that promote inequality but what does that have to do with calculating effective risk assessment strategies to save lives and prevent our public health systems from being overwhelmed? There is no argument that lots of people are being harmed in many ways but are the measures saving lives?
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Ok Mott, spend the next five years doing risk assessments and see what happens. I know already but apparently you need peer reviewed studies to tell you. By the way, Neil Ferguson's original computer model that guided so many governments' policies was not peer reviewed. It was a mess and required programmers from Microsoft a month to clean up to clean up the code.b

Sadly BoJo listened to him rather than the ineffable Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology at the University of Oxford and Swedish epidemiologist Johan Giesecke.

https://unherd.com/2020/05/oxford-doubles-down-sunetra-gupta-interview/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...secke_why_lockdowns_are_the_wrong_policy.html
 
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Grajonca said:
Ok Mott, spend the next five years doing risk assessments and see what happens. I know already but apparently you need peer reviewed studies to tell you. By the way, Neil Ferguson's original computer model that guided so many governments' policies was not peer reviewed. Sadly BoJo listened to him rather than the ineffable Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology at the University of Oxford and Swedish epidemiologist Johan Giesecke.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...secke_why_lockdowns_are_the_wrong_policy.html
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Nice post, thanks.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
The closures and social distancing has had a devastating impact on small businesses to that promote inequality but what does that have to do with calculating effective risk assessment strategies to save lives and prevent our public health systems from being overwhelmed? There is no argument that lots of people are being harmed in many ways but are the measures saving lives?
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How are people ever going to get back to work if the schools are closed? You don't even have children so needn't worry about that. Many millions do need to worry it, do you require a peer reviewed study to tell you what will happen?
 
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