The politicization of face masks

[BartenderElite]

61. Trump.

I guess that's a no. If so, I disagree. I think someone's track record is important. Especially if they're way off on major things - things like the Iraq War, and a pandemic.

That speaks to the validity of any future predictions or statements. Not that someone can't overcome previous mistakes....but some of those were whoppers.

 

[Nordberg]

U of Waterloo in Canada (immune from DC pollicization) recently published a study show that masks only capture 10% of aerosol borne china cooties. Only N95 respirators were shown to be effective to any serious degree.
Probably why the CDC told us in Dec 2019 and Jan 2020 that masks were not indicated.
But masks were something DC could talk up since they put the Burdon on citizens and off them.
So science had to take a back seat so DC could look like they were doing something when there was nothing they could do (apart from hoping a vax could be developed that worked).

N95s is exactly what the CDC recommended as soon as they were available.

 

[Darth Omar]

I guess that's a no. If so, I disagree. I think someone's track record is important. Especially if they're way off on major things - things like the Iraq War, and a pandemic.

That speaks to the validity of any future predictions or statements. Not that someone can't overcome previous mistakes....but some of those were whoppers.

I’m not biting.

You have yet to refute the OP.

 

[Darth Omar]

N95s is exactly what the CDC recommended as soon as they were available.

If you’re not wearing an N95 you’re wearing a talisman.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes you do...

Nope. You don't exhale water droplets. Water vapor isn't water droplets.

some people literally spit when they talk.

That's spitting, not exhaling.

Right, and when that water vapo lands on something, like a mask, the virus carried in the water droplets dies on the mask.

You don't exhale water droplets.

That's why virtually NO ONE caught the flu last year.

WRONG. All infections were listed as covid, regardless of the infection.

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. You're wrong.

Nope. The covid19 virus can last intact for days in bone dry air.

 

[Into the Night]

You don't get to speak for JPP or anyone else.

I'm not. This isn't a private mail service. It's a public forum.

 

[Into the Night]

OK, believe that and make sure all your family and friends believe it too.

Okay.

Then, over the next 15 months, some of them can join Jacque on a ventilator.

Why?

And I'll just laugh, and laugh, and laugh because Conservatives dying from COVID is hilarious to me.

Covid19 does not kill. You're a sick puppy to wish death upon another for political reasons.

 

[Into the Night]

The vaccine protects me up to 95% from contracting COVID and 99.9% from ending up on a ventilator.

So why are you wearing a mask? You are only admitting that the vaccine doesn't work. Why are you insisting on other people wearing a mask? You are only admitting that your own mask doesn't work. Paradox M. Paradox V. Irrational.

 

[Into the Night]

Well, your "very fine people" are the ones dying of COVID now.

I'm actually rooting for COVID to kill more of them.

Covid19 does not kill.

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. You're lying because you haven't shown either on this thread or any other.

Yes I have, liar. RQAA.

 

[Into the Night]

Joke's on you because I don't want to go out into society if your filthy ass is out there spreading disease everywhere because you don't wash your hands.

I'm Gen X...we are the antisocial generation. We can amuse ourselves. We aren't desperate to force human interaction. We are the ones who love working from home, who hate people, who don't want to go out into society to be around a bunch of dumb fucks like you.

So yeah...you can go out all you want, but as long as your ugly mug is out there, spreading a disease around, I'm totally cool staying in my home for another year. I have everything I need here.

But you can't stay locked down because you're so insecure you need human contact.

I am not spreading any disease.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm not the one who believes that Jesus walked on water.

Pivot fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

No faith here,

Yup. It's faith that you wear your mask.

the science is clear

There is no science here. No theory of science is being discussed here.

and I've not caught COVID once during this whole pandemic.
But you have.

Nope.

 

[Into the Night]

It did in New York.

It didn't. New York has covid19 infections.

Back in January-March 2020, you didn't even believe the virus was real. You called it a hoax.

Never said this. You are hallucinating again.

If it's an airborne virus, then a mask is going to be the best first line of protection.

Masks are completely ineffective against a virus. They offer NO protection at all.

Repeating a mantra here to give yourself comfort as you witness all these loudmouth COVID deniers dying all around you.

Covid19 does not kill.

 

[Into the Night]

I did.

If there are 50 articles with studies showing masks work, and 1 article showing they don't, you'll post the 1 article.

Irrelevant. It isn't a vote.

The right has the agenda here - not the left.

Nope. It's the Democrats that wants to require masks on everyone.

The right is the side that doesn't care about the science.
Many on the right say openly that they don't care about the science.

No theory of science is being discussed here. Buzzword fallacy.

Bold prediction: this will be just like "61." A year from now, it will be beyond the shadow of a doubt that masks work - other posters here will remind you that you were against masks, and you'll just respond "white flag."

Masks are completely ineffective against a virus.

 

[Into the Night]

The Trump side has made this entirely political.

Trump is not a Democrat.

They oppose science in all areas - masks, vaccinations, distancing, even the idea that COVID is a problem.

There is no theory of science being discussed here. Buzzword fallacy.

Republicans get booed these days for daring to suggest that anyone wear a mask, or get the vaccine.

Bigotry. Anyone that suggest mandatory masks or vaccines should get booed.

It's become like the environment for the right. It's now perceived as a "lefty" issue, so even common sense measures are vehemently opposed.

The Church of Green, like the Church of Covid, the Church of the Ozone Hole, and the Church of Global Warming, are Democrat in origin.

There is frustration & anger brewing on the side of those who are more in line w/ basic common sense, and who simply want to see the pandemic end.

Paradoxes are not common sense. You are arguing that masks work, yet you admit that your own mask doesn't work. You want others to wear a mask. Paradox M. You admit that vaccines don't work. You wear a mask. Paradox V.

I don't think Republicans understand what they're creating here.

Nothing. It is Democrats making the oppressive edicts.

Long-term, their current stance is a complete loser politically.

That's why they keep winning election after election, eh?

 

[Into the Night]

Science is not a belief. It is a set of falsifiable theories. That's it. That's all. No more. No less.

 

[Into the Night]

When you have to scour through publications searching for a person who says masks do not work, you are not looking for scientific proof. You are looking for an outlier to back what you want to believe anyway.

Science has no proofs. Science is an open functional system. Such systems have no proofs.
Masks are completely ineffective against a virus.

 

[Into the Night]

That's what every single one of them did about the "hoax".

They said it was a hoax, they downplayed it, they compared it to the flu.

Now, when we throw all that shit back in their faces, they just deny.

They're all little bitches.

You are describing Democrats.