The people of Martha's Vineyard lived up to the task! In your face SickSantis!

McRocket said:
Okay...this is REALLY, getting weird now.

First

As far as we know, these 'migrants' are illegal immigrants (until I see unbiased, factual proof to the contrary).
Yet, the left calls them 'migrants' - to make them sound more 'friendly and legal'.
This is childish and clearly, mostly political gamesmanship on the part of the left.


Second

I think DeSantis is an idiot.
And I think flying the 50+ migrants was NOTHING but a rather, expensive stunt to win votes.

However, now the left is acting lie it was some kind of hideous, INCREDIBLY cruel act.
Which it CLEARLY was not.

Hello people?

These are illegal immigrants!!!
They are NOT supposed to be in America!

I do not feel the government is in ANY WAY obligated to feed and house them UNLESS they are officially, detaining them.
But, by DeSantis dropping them off in Martha's Vineyard?
He was essentially, setting them free...inside America (which I am not gaga about - but whatever).
That meant they were no longer the government's responsibility to feed/house.

In other words...there was NOTHING 'cruel' about what DeSantis did.
In fact, he probably did the illegal immigrants/migrants a HUGE favor.
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Read almost any the article about it, they were not here illegally. Every one of these Citizens had been granted Asylum
 
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McRocket said:
And when I have seen a link to unbiased, factual proof of that?
And NOT left-leaning sources making assumptions?

I will believe it (probably).
Not before.


Besides, why would they be given court dates and then shipped WAY out of the jurisdiction?
That makes little sense.

I suspect they were processed and given 'preliminary hearings' for processing.
Which are FAR different then actual 'court dates' to determine landed status.
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Because they were used as political pawns.
 
Jarod said:
Read almost in the article about it, they were not here illegally. Every one of these Citizens had been granted Asylum
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The ONLY source I could find in the article was a STAGGERINGLY biased site.

Where is an UNBIASED source that factually states that they ALL arrived in America legally?
 
Hello Jarod,

Jarod said:
When the cold huddled mass (some children), yearning to be free, showed up in Martha's Vineyard unannounced without money or food or a place to stay the people there proved themselves.

They took these refugees in, fed them, got them legal representation and quickly jumped into action finding them housing, food and jobs. They welcomed these people into their communities.


A sadistic Governor desperate for more power sent these refugees there as a kind of sick joke, victimizing these people by making no arrangements for their arrival or care... Not telling anyone they were on the way. Lying to them to get them on the airplane. What a scum this governor is. If there were a hell he would rot in it.
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I gave this a thanks but then decided to remove it because I cannot support name-calling. Without that, I agree with the rest of it.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Notice that no one is offering solutions to the problem other than to maintain the status quo.
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EXACTLY!!!

That was basically my - badly stated - point.
It has now become political.

The left has decided to treat all illegals as refugees.
And - oh - look at how HORRIBLE the right treat them?
We (the left) are nice and the right are evil.

While the right looks at the illegals as the source of ALL evil in America (which is ridiculous).
And the left are 'un-American' to be treating them so well.

In other words - they are both getting carried away.


Looking at these migrants in Martha's Vineyard makes me remember how I felt after my parents divorced...a pawn.
Used to show how much better one side is than the other.
 
Hello Jarod,

Jarod said:
Migrants in the group said they’d agreed to fly to Massachusetts on the promise of jobs and assistance but didn’t realize they were bound for Martha’s Vineyard. No one on the island knew they were coming and, according to their attorneys, they’d been given falsified U.S. addresses by immigration officials, perhaps ensuring that they’d be deemed in the country illegally.
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What sick twisted tactics to use these people as part of a hateful politics. This does not make America great.
 
McRocket said:
Well, no kidding.

But that still does not answer my request for a link to an UNBIASED source that ALL of these people arrived in America legally.
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They were legal, but why does that matter? They are still humans, some of them children.
 
Jarod said:
They were legal, but why does that matter? They are still humans, some of them children.
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1) you have NOT shown me a link to unbiased, factual proof that they were all 'legal'.
You are clearly just taking the word of the article.

2) the US government is under NO OBLIGATION to feed and house illegal immigrants unless they are being held in custody.
None.

3) And where are your threads that you started that call for our governments to feed and cloth the 500,000+ of homeless Americans?

https://policyadvice.net/insurance/insights/homelessness-statistics/

Interesting how you are SO CONCERNED about how awful these (potentially) illegal immigrants are treated.
Yet you seem to not care remotely as much at how the 500,000+ homeless, American citizens (many of them veterans) are treated by the government?
 
Jarod said:
When the cold huddled mass (some children), yearning to be free, showed up in Martha's Vineyard unannounced without money or food or a place to stay the people there proved themselves.

They took these refugees in, fed them, got them legal representation and quickly jumped into action finding them housing, food and jobs. They welcomed these people into their communities.


A sadistic Governor desperate for more power sent these refugees there as a kind of sick joke, victimizing these people by making no arrangements for their arrival or care... Not telling anyone they were on the way. Lying to them to get them on the airplane. What a scum this governor is. If there were a hell he would rot in it.
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Ok.


theres a million more coming just this year.
 
McRocket said:
1) you have NOT shown me a link to unbiased, factual proof that they were all 'legal'.
You are clearly just taking the word of the article.

2) the US government is under NO OBLIGATION to feed and house illegal immigrants unless they are being held in custody.
None.

3) And where are your threads that you started that call for our governments to feed and cloth the 500,000+ of homeless Americans?

https://policyadvice.net/insurance/insights/homelessness-statistics/

Interesting how you are SO CONCERNED about how awful these (potentially) illegal immigrants are treated.
Yet you seem to not care remotely as much at how the 500,000+ homeless, American citizens (many of them veterans) are treated by the government?
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I gave you a link.
 
Jarod said:
When the cold huddled mass (some children), yearning to be free, showed up in Martha's Vineyard unannounced without money or food or a place to stay the people there proved themselves.

They took these refugees in, fed them, got them legal representation and quickly jumped into action finding them housing, food and jobs. They welcomed these people into their communities.


A sadistic Governor desperate for more power sent these refugees there as a kind of sick joke, victimizing these people by making no arrangements for their arrival or care... Not telling anyone they were on the way. Lying to them to get them on the airplane. What a scum this governor is. If there were a hell he would rot in it.
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Taxachusetts has 8 "sanctuary cities" at last count. They should load them up too. This was inevitable. Were idiots like you really expecting red border states to bear the brunt of this onslaught until south and central America was completely empty?
 
Callinectes said:
Taxachusetts has 8 "sanctuary cities" at last count. They should load them up too. This was inevitable. Were idiots like you really expecting red border states to bear the brunt of this onslaught until south and central America was completely empty?
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I think it’s a great idea to send these migrants to different places around the United States, especially those places that will be friendly towards them. What I don’t like is the way death Santis went about it.
 
Jarod said:
When the cold huddled mass (some children), yearning to be free, showed up in Martha's Vineyard unannounced without money or food or a place to stay the people there proved themselves.

They took these refugees in, fed them, got them legal representation and quickly jumped into action finding them housing, food and jobs. They welcomed these people into their communities.


A sadistic Governor desperate for more power sent these refugees there as a kind of sick joke, victimizing these people by making no arrangements for their arrival or care... Not telling anyone they were on the way. Lying to them to get them on the airplane. What a scum this governor is. If there were a hell he would rot in it.
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Fan-fucking-tastic.

Share the wealth, baby.
 
Jarod said:
They took these refugees in, fed them, got them legal representation and quickly jumped into action finding them housing, food and jobs. They welcomed these people into their communities.
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dude....they got the federal government to put them up on a military base on Cape Cod.........they didn't welcome them into their communities.......they kicked them out within 48 hours......
 
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