The most and least educated religious groups in USA

Cypress said:
The fact that over a lifetime you have been Christian, atheist, agnostic, pantheist, that you've been Republican and then genuinely independent Libertarian is strong proof to me that you are willing to reflect on your beliefs and assumptions and change course when necessary
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Panentheist. It's a better fit with the multiverse theory. :)

I try to grow and adapt, not lock down my brain and pretend nothing human changes as some are wont to do. Sad.

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domer76 said:
Naw, I want to be as truthful and straightforward as possible. That’s why I’ll stick with:

I don’t give a flying fuck what religion you are.

Honestly. Calmly. And, since I’m an atheist, intelligently.

NOT.A.FUCK.TO.GIVE
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domer76 said:
Catch the drift, Rufus? Your religion is a matter of coincidence, not logic.
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Going through life angry and dishonest is not a good look, domer76.
 
Cypress said:
I agree culture and economics play roles in education levels. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pentecostals and Church of Christ communities are generally at the lower end of the economic spectrum.

But I also think they do not place a premium on higher education. Most of America's older established universities were established by the mainline Protestant denominations and Catholics. I'd be surprised if Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witness, or Church of Christ ever established a legitimate liberal arts university.

I'm not an expert on IQ tests, and I will defer to you. But we had an emotional intelligence seminar where I used to work, and I remember the instructor claiming that IQ tests only measure certain types of cognitive function, but they are not measuring overall innate intelligence.
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I'd love to see a study comparing average incomes, along with education, among various religious denominations.

Note that the militant atheists love to tout their superiority as a group, but as individuals, they are often liars and poorly educated as commonly proved on JPP. IMO, it's the "quiet" atheists who are well educated.

Further, atheists love to include Buddhists in their numbers and, as the stats proved, most people of Asian descent are well educated soooo........

Agreed that most Western IQ tests only measure part of overall human intelligence. Specifically the 3 R's.
 
I'll add this. Indian engineers that I've had to deal with have been uniformly, and all at once, condescending, arrogant, and dumber than fuck. There might be some out there, but I have serious doubts about that.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Panentheist. It's a better fit with the multiverse theory. :)

I try to grow and adapt, not lock down my brain and pretend nothing human changes as some are wont to do. Sad.

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Interesting.


Panentheism is the belief that the divine intersects every part of the universe and also extends beyond space and time. The term was coined by the German philosopher Karl Krause in 1828 (after reviewing Hindu scripture). - From Wiki
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I'd love to see a study comparing average incomes, along with education, among various religious denominations.

Note that the militant atheists love to tout their superiority as a group, but as individuals, they are often liars and poorly educated as commonly proved on JPP. IMO, it's the "quiet" atheists who are well educated.

Further, atheists love to include Buddhists in their numbers and, as the stats proved, most people of Asian descent are well educated soooo........

Agreed that most Western IQ tests only measure part of overall human intelligence. Specifically the 3 R's.
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There undoubtedly are Hollywood stars and urban hipsters practicing Buddhist meditation techniques, but that's an Americanized watered-down version of wannabe-Buddhism.

The historic Buddhism, and the types of Buddhism widely practiced across Asia definitely accept that there are divine agents and transcendental planes of reality.

Being primary young white men living in rich western countries, I am not surprised that atheists tend to be better educated than Catholics, for example.


I'm not sure there are any genuine atheists on this board, who actually live out atheism to it's logical conclusion. I was told yesterday by atheists that everything you need to know about atheism is found in an eight word dictionary definition.

That strangely ignores the fact that there is a rich literary tradition of seminal atheists writing books about what it really means to adopt the atheist belief system.

Atheism, as practiced and taken to it's logical conclusion, includes these philosophical beliefs in it's belief system:

1) Strict physical materialism -- all of life, the universe, and everything can be adequately explained by the motions of inanimate matter and energy.

2) Moral relativism -- there are no objectively true moral standards, there is no absolute good and evil, values of behavior are strictly determined by culture or by opinion.

3) Scientism -- a belief that science is the only source of truth.
 
Cypress said:
There undoubtedly are Hollywood stars and urban hipsters practicing Buddhist meditation techniques, but that's an Americanized watered-down version of wannabe-Buddhism.

The historic Buddhism, and the types of Buddhism widely practiced across Asia definitely accept that there are divine agents and transcendental planes of reality.

Being primary young white men living in rich western countries, I am not surprised that atheists tend to be better educated than Catholics, for example.


I'm not sure there are any genuine atheists on this board, who actually live out atheism to it's logical conclusion. I was told yesterday by atheists that everything you need to know about atheism is found in an eight word dictionary definition.

That strangely ignores the fact that there is a rich literary tradition of seminal atheists writing books about what it really means to adopt the atheist belief system.

Atheism, as practiced and taken to it's logical conclusion, includes these philosophical beliefs in it's belief system:
1) Strict physical materialism -- all of life, the universe, and everything can be adequately explained by inanimate matter and energy.
2) Moral relativism -- there are no objectively true moral standards, there is no absolute good and evil, values of behavior are strictly determined by culture or by opinion.
3) Scientism -- a belief that science is the only source of truth.
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Yes, the Left Coast can be as wacky as the bohemian parts of NYC like Greenwich Village.

Nonetheless, there are over 500M Buddhists in the world and unscrupulous, desperate, highly emotional and poorly educated atheists love to claim they are atheists simply because of the "One Less God" belief, but they overlook Buddhist spiritual and post-mortem existence aspects. Do they overlook it because they are stupid or because they are desperate liars? Both?

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Buddhism can play different roles in the lives of different people. For some, Buddhism is a religion. For others, it is a philosophy. Still others practice Buddhism as a mental discipline through which they find themselves and experience inner peace. A 2019 article by the Pew Research Center cited published work that confirmed that many Asians may follow Buddhist customs and practices, but not consider themselves followers of Buddhism as a religion. It is estimated that as many as 506 million people around the world practice Buddhism as a religion, which would represent roughly 6.6% of the world’s total population.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Yes, the Left Coast can be as wacky as the bohemian parts of NYC like Greenwich Village.

Nonetheless, there are over 500M Buddhists in the world and unscrupulous, desperate, highly emotional and poorly educated atheists love to claim they are atheists simply because of the "One Less God" belief, but they overlook the spiritual and post-mortem existence aspects. Do they overlook it because they are stupid or because they are desperate liars? Both?
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Agree, I have definitely seen atheists try to claim Buddhists as bedfellows and fellow travelers.

Even though I have asked, it was never explained to me how Samsara, Moksha, and Nirvana were compatible with the empiricism and physical materialism of atheism, lol.
 
Cypress said:
Agree, I have definitely seen atheists try to claim Buddhists as bedfellows and fellow travelers.

Even though I have asked, it was never explained to me how Samsara, Moksha, and Nirvana were compatible with the empiricism and physical materialism of atheism, lol.
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Before or after they claim to be more logical than believers? :cool: It's a common fallback for the dumber, poorly educated ones...or just plain liars. Sometimes it's difficult to tell at first.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Before or after they claim to be more logical than believers? :cool: It's a common fallback for the dumber, poorly educated ones...or just plain liars. Sometimes it's difficult to tell at first.
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Fundamentalist Christians and militant atheists both rely on a set of assumptions and beliefs that are not supported by logic or empiricism.
 
Cypress said:
Fundamentalist Christians and militant atheists both rely on a set of assumptions and beliefs that are not supported by logic or empiricism.
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The irony being that neither of them recognizes how similar they are to their rivals.

BTW, did your little stalker end up with a timeout? LOL
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The irony being that neither of them recognizes how similar they are to their rivals.
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The Christian fundamentalists never make a good case for strict biblical literalism.

There are very few atheists who make a convincing case for atheism. Usually they just have a litany of complaints about the Old Testament.
Dutch Uncle said:
BTW, did your little stalker end up with a timeout? LOL
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I don't know if anything happened to my shadow!
 
Cypress said:
The Episcopal Church is socially progressive, is LGBT- friendly, and permits gay and lesbian rectors/pastors.

The Anglican Church of North America is socially conservative and frowns upon all LGBT relationships.

The difference couldn't be more stark, even if they both belong to the broader global Anglican communion.
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Cypress said:
The Christian fundamentalists never make a good case for strict biblical literalism.

There are very few atheists who make a convincing case for atheism. Usually they just have a litany of complaints about the Old Testament.

I don't know if anything happened to my shadow!
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I'll see if I can tease him out of the shadows. :thup:
 
gmark77 said:
You don't even understand the concepts!
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I've diligently investigated, read, or listened to many of the seminal atheist authors and influencers of the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries. I've discerned the commonalities in their atheistic world views, namely strict physical materialism, determinism, moral subjectivity.

You insinuated yesterday that everything you need to know about atheism is found in an eight word dictionary definition.

So which one of us has been more diligent in investigating the atheist worldview?
 
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