You are nuts, TA.
Sorry about that, but you are.
If we, as a nation, can get past people like you, we may get back to being a great nation...or at least a decent one.
The Mamdani Moments
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Sorry about that, but you are.
If we, as a nation, can get past people like you, we may get back to being a great nation...or at least a decent one.
We'll see.
Try again.
Taichiliberal
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So all you've got is magat wishful thinking for things to fail. You don't give a damn about others so long as you "own the libs", because the status quo ain't cutting it. So much for post #2 and your subsequent blather. And look ar post #120 regarding socialism. Stop being a stubborn doormat and water carrier for the 1%.
Taichiliberal
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Are you just insipidly stubborn, willfully ignorant or truly ignorant? You wanted proof, there it is. Look it up yourself. If you have valid sourced proof to the contrary, produce it. We'll wait.
I want pure socialist countries where the government provides everything.
Let me help.
China, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, and North Korea and they blend socialism with communism. Vietnam rapidly moving away.
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T. A. Gardner
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I'm not the one that sides with politicians who think they know better what you need and should have than you do.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Let's look at this from another angle:
If you were filthy rich would you, right now, consider purchasing a high-end, luxury apartment, condo, penthouse, or other second home in NYC? How about New York state? If you were a developer / builder would you be considering building such luxury homes for sale in the near future there?
If you already owned such a home, would you be carefully considering options to avoid the new taxes?
Since New York and NYC base many of these taxes on estimated selling price, would you be hiring a law firm specializing in litigating property taxes and assessments if you weren't doing that already?
Additionally, will any of these taxes bring a ROI to the state or city of New York? Or will they simply be gobbled up in Socialist welfare handouts, and bureaucratic paperwork?
What will the government of NYC and NY state do if their projected net tax intake from these falls far short of projections? Will Mamdani and Hochel just lower the bar on what is included, say from $5 million to $1 million or something like that? Or will they just come up with another new thing to tax?
Neither Mamdani or Hochel are looking at any sort of investment or draw to attract new money to NY or NYC. Instead they are doing what Detroit, as but one example, did and slowly killing off their goose that lays golden eggs.
If you were filthy rich would you, right now, consider purchasing a high-end, luxury apartment, condo, penthouse, or other second home in NYC? How about New York state? If you were a developer / builder would you be considering building such luxury homes for sale in the near future there?
If you already owned such a home, would you be carefully considering options to avoid the new taxes?
Since New York and NYC base many of these taxes on estimated selling price, would you be hiring a law firm specializing in litigating property taxes and assessments if you weren't doing that already?
Additionally, will any of these taxes bring a ROI to the state or city of New York? Or will they simply be gobbled up in Socialist welfare handouts, and bureaucratic paperwork?
What will the government of NYC and NY state do if their projected net tax intake from these falls far short of projections? Will Mamdani and Hochel just lower the bar on what is included, say from $5 million to $1 million or something like that? Or will they just come up with another new thing to tax?
Neither Mamdani or Hochel are looking at any sort of investment or draw to attract new money to NY or NYC. Instead they are doing what Detroit, as but one example, did and slowly killing off their goose that lays golden eggs.
Taichiliberal
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translation: another maga mook who would rather eat shit and call it ice cream than admit they're wrong on any level ..... just like their Cheeto Jeezus.
Sad thing is T.A. is just too damned stupid to realize the sheer hypocrisy of his statement. He defends to the death the policies of Reagan, Bush & Trump .... who DO NOT consult him on anything but require him to bend over the chair, pants down with a smile .... but pitches a bitch when Obama or Mamdani gets ELECTED FAIR AND SQUARE.
I do wish one of these magats would explain how great the current system that favors the 1% economically is for their personal wallets .... because history shows that ain't happening.
Taichiliberal
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So you can't logically or factually refute or disprove the OP. Instead you do the usual magat shuffle by fabricating a scenario that fits your beliefs. And if no one takes the bait, you declare a "win".
Sorry bunky, but that lame ass ploy hasn't worked for you all these years, and it won't now. So go hoist one to the clown you see in the mirror over your "victory". Reality will always be your foil. Posts #5, 14, 27, 72, 74, 91, 93, 96
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
I am logically refuting the idea that Mamdani's, or Hochel's, 'soak the Rich' plans will work. Ever hear of a "Thought experiment?"
So you can't logically or factually refute or disprove the OP. Instead you do the usual magat shuffle by fabricating a scenario that fits your beliefs. And if no one takes the bait, you declare a "win".
Sorry bunky, but that lame ass ploy hasn't worked for you all these years, and it won't now. So go hoist one to the clown you see in the mirror over your "victory". Reality will always be your foil. Posts #5, 14, 27, 72, 74, 91, 93, 96
I guess not. So read up some.
Mamdani and Hochel ignore Newton's Third Law in what they're doing. They assume the economic system they're dealing with is largely, if not entirely, static. It isn't.
Take your link in post 14. It says what I've been saying in the body of the article:
“We will add far more jobs in Miami over the next decade as an immediate and direct consequence of the mayor’s poor decision here with respect to posting that video,” Griffin told CNBC last week.
It’s resulted in at least one company, the hedge fund Citadel, to say it will be expanding elsewhere.
Ken Griffin, a billionaire, is planning to slowly draw down his business in NY and move it to Florida. That means Mamdani loses any expansion of Griffin's tax contributions, along with the jobs and taxes that would be paid.
He is hardly alone, and that article shows it. The financial giants are leaving in stages. They are slowly getting out, and Mamdani and Hochel are trying damn hard to show them to the door.
It won't happen suddenly. It will be like NY bleeds to death from paper cuts a little at a time.
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Taichiliberal
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Typical magat intellectual dishonesty. Here's what went down: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/threads/the-mamdani-moments.247601/post-6973587
Instead of just conceding a point, you change the focus of your claim. But let me further prove your blather. China is a pure communist country that I wouldn't want to live under .... but they are a world power to be reckoned with. Cuba has been under economic siege for over 40 years, and is now under military blockade by America. Dump and company can do that because there is no longer a threat from a USSR, and China couldn't give a damn. North Korea is more of a dictatorship under the premise of communism (IMHO, of course), Laos is another authoritarian government, and Vietnam is hard line communist posing a socialist, but seem to be having a positive economic surge, all though I sure as hell wouldn't want to live there.
So, back to square one; Mamdani has classified himself as a democratic socialist like Bernie Saunders. Like the countries I previously listed, that brand of gov't can work. You just don't like it, despite NOT being part of the inherent or top tier investor wealthy class. GTFU and deal with reality.
Taichiliberal
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You just jump from one idea/topic to another with the frequency of a cheap ham radio. You throw in the kitchen sink as if that makes you clever, when in reality the chronology of the posts just shows you to be a stubborn establishment ass kisser (which makes no sense, since 30 years of the status quo economics has pretty much screwed this country to a large degree).
THINK, you fool, THINK! Any and all economic policies are designed to address current and historical problems. You and the people's ass you kiss had their shot with 30 years of reaganomics and absurd tax breaks for the wealthy. NYC under Cuomo gave tax revenue breaks to corporations to relocate here....didn't mention how the "eminent domain" policy came into play to affect local small business owners. So Mamdani is just taxing REAL ESTATE THAT RICH FOLK DON'T EVEN USE THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME. Unoccupied real estate, don't cha know.
And they wail like stuck pigs because a brown skinned man elected by ALL New York City dwellers is making them mind their economic manners.
TOUGH DONUTS!
So like I said, suck ups like you are cheering for failure and inadvertently maintaining a system that screws over the very people necessary to keep the "city that never sleeps" functioning.
There will be no economic apartheid in NYC. TFB is that upsets your sensibilities, wherever you live.
Taichiliberal
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And I see you ignored what I linked in response. Typical magat intellectual dishonesty:
But does this really mean that New York City is losing jobs? NY1 crunched the numbers.
In total, according to the state labor department, private sector employment dipped slightly since last March in the five boroughs. But some economists attribute that small drop to a reapportionment of health care jobs from the city to upstate — not a severe dip in employment.
“We haven’t really seen any decline in the finance sector. In fact, securities employment in New York City is at an all-time high,” said James Parrott of the Center for New York City Affairs at the New School.
Jobs in the finance and insurance industry, according to the state, have remained steady. In 2025, they grew by nearly 3%.
Some tech job categories grew by a similar margin in 2025, although more recent data shows them dipping slightly.
“Despite these claims that businesses have been relocating, it just hasn’t shown up in the numbers,” Parrott said.
Under Mamdani, are businesses leaving the city?
NY1 found that big finance jobs are staying, at least for now.
ny1.com
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
No, I've been quite consistent. My points are:
* Trying to tax the Rich won't work. It will generate a diminishing return and the harder you try to tax them the more incentive they have to avoid the tax.
* The Rich are leaving NY. They're not stampeding out of the state but slowly leaving, drawing down their businesses in a controlled fashion and setting them up elsewhere.
* It doesn't matter what Mamdani or Hochel raise taxes on when it involves the Rich. The Rich will NOT sit still and be slowly pickpocketed of their money. They will find ways to avoid it.
* The effect is not just on the direct taxes collected, but on future growth and taxes on that. If growth stops or slows, tax revenue remains flat or drops.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
You are looking at this in the immediate short-term. That means nothing. It is the long-term that matters. Detroit didn't die in a year. It took decades of government slowly, incrementally, increasing taxes on the auto and steel industry until they milked that cash cow dry.And I see you ignored what I linked in response. Typical magat intellectual dishonesty:
But does this really mean that New York City is losing jobs? NY1 crunched the numbers.
In total, according to the state labor department, private sector employment dipped slightly since last March in the five boroughs. But some economists attribute that small drop to a reapportionment of health care jobs from the city to upstate — not a severe dip in employment.
“We haven’t really seen any decline in the finance sector. In fact, securities employment in New York City is at an all-time high,” said James Parrott of the Center for New York City Affairs at the New School.
Jobs in the finance and insurance industry, according to the state, have remained steady. In 2025, they grew by nearly 3%.
Some tech job categories grew by a similar margin in 2025, although more recent data shows them dipping slightly.
“Despite these claims that businesses have been relocating, it just hasn’t shown up in the numbers,” Parrott said.
Under Mamdani, are businesses leaving the city?
NY1 found that big finance jobs are staying, at least for now.
The automakers didn't close their factories right away. Instead, they simply didn't upgrade or build new ones. They gradually drew down employment and when those factories in Detroit became obsolete, they abandoned them for the new ones they'd built elsewhere.
You keep saying there hasn't been a drop in employment. I keep adding Wait. It is happening but in very slow motion.