The insanity of blaming Islam

Rana said:
Yeah and I replied to bs. It is still bs.
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Why are your links touted as wisdom from scholars, and his link is "bs?" Are you being an open-minded liberal?

I found this to be most interesting, he is talking about the 'argument' seculars often make about the brutality of God in the Old Testament:

The intent of many of those who make such claims is to make a good God look evil to justify their position of rejecting Him, His Word, or even His existence. But if God didn’t exist and the Bible weren’t His Word, there would be no basis to say that good and evil exist, and therefore, brutality would be neither good nor bad. Few that I have spoken with realize this when they attack God’s character in an effort to make a case that He doesn’t exist.
 
Dixie said:
Why are your links touted as wisdom from scholars, and his link is "bs?" Are you being an open-minded liberal?

I found this to be most interesting, he is talking about the 'argument' seculars often make about the brutality of God in the Old Testament:

The intent of many of those who make such claims is to make a good God look evil to justify their position of rejecting Him, His Word, or even His existence. But if God didn’t exist and the Bible weren’t His Word, there would be no basis to say that good and evil exist, and therefore, brutality would be neither good nor bad. Few that I have spoken with realize this when they attack God’s character in an effort to make a case that He doesn’t exist.
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Show me Bodie Hodges peer reviewed paper on this and I will give it consideration.
 
Dixie said:
Why are your links touted as wisdom from scholars, and his link is "bs?" Are you being an open-minded liberal?

I found this to be most interesting, he is talking about the 'argument' seculars often make about the brutality of God in the Old Testament:

The intent of many of those who make such claims is to make a good God look evil to justify their position of rejecting Him, His Word, or even His existence. But if God didn’t exist and the Bible weren’t His Word, there would be no basis to say that good and evil exist, and therefore, brutality would be neither good nor bad. Few that I have spoken with realize this when they attack God’s character in an effort to make a case that He doesn’t exist.
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A good G-d doesn't order the slaughter of innocents, but this is why I personally do not believe, the Bible, Torah or Qu'ran.
 
Don Quixote said:
i am rather curious where you get your information

also, you seem to have a rabid hatred of muslims
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All he said that could be construed as negative: The Muslim God= Allah sent Mohammad to use treachery, murder ,rape and looting to advance a very materialistic kingdom taken from millions of murdered victims.

Now, is this what you are calling "rabid hatred?" Because, FIRST, you have to provide evidence that what he said is not true. Being honest and candid about events that have taken place, is not "rabid hate." If someone was here trying to argue that Christians have done no wrong, and for all their history, have only spread love and peace... and you interjected something about the Crusades, does that mean you have "rabid hate" for Christians? OR are you simply being honest about history?
 
...A good G-d doesn't order the slaughter of innocents...
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1. What is "good?"
2. Who has defined this "good?"
3. Who is "innocent?"
4. What is "innocent?"
5. Who has defined "innocent?"

Once you've answered these, perhaps you can tell is when God gave you authority to judge Him?
 
Dixie said:
1. What is "good?"
2. Who has defined this "good?"
3. Who is "innocent?"
4. What is "innocent?"
5. Who has defined "innocent?"

Once you've answered these, perhaps you can tell is when God gave you authority to judge Him?
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I do not judge G-d, I judge what other humans wrote and claim to be G-D.
 
Dixie:

1. What is "good?"
2. Who has defined this "good?"
3. Who is "innocent?"
4. What is "innocent?"
5. Who has defined "innocent?"

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1. Good is subjective but in this case it means doing no harm

3. Children, babies

4. Animals are innocent

2 and
 
patriot66 said:
But it was ok for the lap dog liberal obama sychophant media like tingles to suppose it was right wing extremists, don't be such an asshole.
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I don't believe I made any comment that they were right wing extremists but continue making up whatever you need to justify your biases.
 
Damocles said:
No, I wouldn't say that. Even in Christianity Jesus isn't too nice to the people who didn't believe in Him at the end...

He's doing the will of Allah, by executing those who didn't submit to Allah's will. Hasatan would be the one that led them astray and caused them to sin. Basically "the Adversary" it is his job to tempt people, to be what Kings would hire "fools" for, to say the things that others would no and to argue with him. The Adversary would take Jesus out and try to get him to use magic to change a stone to bread... But isn't the entity that stands with God at the end of the world and is the Judge and Executioner.

When you read about HaSatan in the Old Testament, it is clear that the Adversary (HaSatan) is clearly "with" God. He tempts Job, after making a "bet" with God. Basically what Christians later find to be the absolute opposite of God in Satan is really the servant of God...
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I read a really good book by Elaine Pagel about the history of Satan
 
OnearmSword said:
Yep, once the reputable men of higher and great learning all agreed that the world was flat. How'd that one work out hotshot?
You haven't a clue about Islam and the massive widespread infiltration of it's propaganda over the last 6 decades have you?
Islam has nothing to do with the God of Abraham. That God sent his son Jesus to die for all mankind's sins. The Muslim God= Allah sent Mohammad to use treachery, murder ,rape and looting to advance a very materialistic kingdom taken from millions of murdered victims.
Get a clue, they are as far apart as is the surface of the Sun to absolute zero..
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Just out of curiosity, why do you get so riled up about what others believe? Their beliefs aren't taking away anything from you.
 
Rana said:
Dixie:

1. What is "good?"
2. Who has defined this "good?"
3. Who is "innocent?"
4. What is "innocent?"
5. Who has defined "innocent?"

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1. Good is subjective but in this case it means doing no harm

3. Children, babies

4. Animals are innocent

2 and
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Hmm... Did you ever pass a test in school? You're missing quite a few answers and the ones you have given are irrelevant.

Good is subjective, but it doesn't mean "doing no harm." If that is the case, we are all evil people, because our very existence causes harm to something. Do you eat? Was whatever you ate, harmed in your consumption and digestion of it? I would suspect that even tofu and yogurt, was once something that needed to be "harmed" in order to bring it to your mouth. So "doing harm" is not a very accurate measure of "good" as you can clearly see.

You skipped who has defined "good" in your previous comment. Let the record show that YOU have defined "good" and the parameter on which a god is deemed "good" or "bad." Therefore, we can say that you have judged God.

Children and babies are innocent, or at least that is our perception, but no man is without sin, no one is perfect. We are born innocent, but eventually we all sin. You also skipped the question, what does "innocent" mean? And again, it's a subjective term which YOU have attributed the parameters for, and then passed your judgment on God with them.

Now... I would suggest you be very careful out there.... Freak things are known to happen all the time, and I have found that people who dare to be so bold as to challenge God or mock him in this way by judging him, are not long for this world. Don't mean to go all Pat Robertson on you, but you might want to think about this before you run your mouth too much. Of course, you don't have to articulate it, God knows whenever you are thinking it, and that is all that matters.
 
Rana said:
A good G-d doesn't order the slaughter of innocents, but this is why I personally do not believe, the Bible, Torah or Qu'ran.
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I am amused that while you have the balls to judge God you don't have the balls to respond to my posts.....I guess that's because you know he won't answer you.....
 
Rana said:
I do not judge G-d, I judge what other humans wrote and claim to be G-D.
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there are two possibilities.....there is no God, in which case you look rather silly for condemning him......or there is a God, in which case you ought to be running already.....
 
Dixie said:
Hmm... Did you ever pass a test in school? You're missing quite a few answers and the ones you have given are irrelevant.

Good is subjective, but it doesn't mean "doing no harm." If that is the case, we are all evil people, because our very existence causes harm to something. Do you eat? Was whatever you ate, harmed in your consumption and digestion of it? I would suspect that even tofu and yogurt, was once something that needed to be "harmed" in order to bring it to your mouth. So "doing harm" is not a very accurate measure of "good" as you can clearly see.

You skipped who has defined "good" in your previous comment. Let the record show that YOU have defined "good" and the parameter on which a god is deemed "good" or "bad." Therefore, we can say that you have judged God.

Children and babies are innocent, or at least that is our perception, but no man is without sin, no one is perfect. We are born innocent, but eventually we all sin. You also skipped the question, what does "innocent" mean? And again, it's a subjective term which YOU have attributed the parameters for, and then passed your judgment on God with them.

Now... I would suggest you be very careful out there.... Freak things are known to happen all the time, and I have found that people who dare to be so bold as to challenge God or mock him in this way by judging him, are not long for this world. Don't mean to go all Pat Robertson on you, but you might want to think about this before you run your mouth too much. Of course, you don't have to articulate it, God knows whenever you are thinking it, and that is all that matters.
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Dixie, you are so hilarious.

People are not all evil or all good, we have moments of both through our lives.

You caim to not adher to any religion, yet you constantly profess their dogmas and definition of G-d and what he ordains. I see no proof of any of these ancient writings being from anyone but humans.

No man is without sin is a religious tenet and one I do not believe. Babies are innocent, so are young children, original sin is not something I believe. I do not hold humans responsibe or the sins of their ancestors, unless they themselves continue to committ them.

People and their societies define what is good.

I do not judge G-d, I judge what people claim about G-d.
 
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