The insanity of blaming Islam

From what I understand, it is so that the New Testament has a context. It is there because it is important in many fundamental ways, but the New Testament is a Reformation of Christian beliefs. It is not flawed, it is Holy and considered "The Word" of God, even though most all of it is written by men, as best we can tell. The original 'Torah' (first part of the OT) is important in establishing foundational basis for Christianity as well as Judaism. You can't discard this. The New Testament, as the name implies, is a modern 'update' on the beliefs and understandings of God's will. Jesus brings reform to the Old Testament laws, and a clarified message of love and forgiveness we are supposed to have for each other. (Seems hippie libs would be all about this?) The letters of the Disciples, and Paul of Taurus, and ending with John's apocalyptic prophecy in Revelations. Both books are important, and this is why John wrote that nothing should be added or taken away from this book.

Mormons interpret John's words to mean the book of Revelations, which is why they can claim an even 'newer' testament, the Book of Mormon. There are many other offshoots of Christian and Jewish faith, and they all vary to some degree on interpretation of the Scriptures. But they all believe in the same God, who is not Allah.

All reputable scholars who publish papers in peer reviewed sources call Judaism, Islam and Christianity the Abrahamic religions.

I don't know what sources you get your information from, but I tend to hold in higher esteem the people who have combed the scriptures,read them in the original languages and know more than you do about the subject.

This is how I have come by my conclusions, I am not sure where you get your information.
 
So it's bad to generalize Islam and Muslims because of the actions of a radical few, but acceptable and encouraged to bash and generlize gun owners, based on the actions of a radical few?

Hmmmm, that seems like a contradiction.

Who does that? Unless you're so thin skinned that you think Background checks for every transaction is the equivalent of bashing and generalizing.
 
All reputable scholars who publish papers in peer reviewed sources call Judaism, Islam and Christianity the Abrahamic religions.

I don't know what sources you get your information from, but I tend to hold in higher esteem the people who have combed the scriptures,read them in the original languages and know more than you do about the subject.

This is how I have come by my conclusions, I am not sure where you get your information.
He gets 1/3 from Muslim sources, 1/3 from Jewish sources and 1/3 from Christian sources. Sorry could not resist.
 
He gets 1/3 from Muslim sources, 1/3 from Jewish sources and 1/3 from Christian sources. Sorry could not resist.

Actually....he's quite biased...so I'd bet he gets at least .334 from Christian sources.... but not "the immeasurable love of God" Christian sources...but the "everyone's going to hell but me" Christian sources.
 
Actually....he's quite biased...so I'd bet he gets at least .334 from Christian sources.... but not "the immeasurable love of God" Christian sources...but the "everyone's going to hell but me" Christian sources.
Oh good god now you are going to reignite the 1/3 debate. Daaaaaaaaaamn youuuuuuuuuu!
 
April 19, 2013, at 5:16 PM

We are still speculating about virtually everything right now, but I feel as though I need to explain why I find the quick and easy conversation about Muslims being radicalized in America to be so illogical and laced with bigotry. Of course, there is a global violent jihadist movement, loosely organized, that wants to recruit young men to influence policies at home and abroad and perhaps usher in the global caliphate. That ideology motivates some Muslims to kill innocent people. But you're allowed to be a radical Muslim in America. You're allowed to believe that the Qu'ran proscribes the most elegant set of laws. You're allowed to believe that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. And you can say, in America, pretty much anything you want. Not everything, and after 9/11, a little less, but you can still make very unpopular arguments.

So just for the sake of argument, let's assume that the only factor that motivated these two brothers from Chechnya to set off bombs and kill police officers is their decision to accept some form of radical Islamic teachings as their foundational belief system. (I highly doubt this is the case, but let's just throw it out there.) We ask: "We have to look at the whole issue of radicalization. What prompts someone raised as an American to cause such carnage?" That's what Peter King, the Republican chair of the Homeland Security committee, asked. So he goes right to the religion; somehow, he slides very quickly past the possibility that something about America is radicalizing people of all sorts.

He commits the sin of essentialism.

It's a horrible habit: A Korean-American shoots fellow students at Virginia Tech, and suddenly, we're forced to pretend that it's OK to blame Korean-American family structure and culture for putting him over the edge, ignoring the millions of Korean-Americans who have never considered taking up arms. The murderer Andrew Cunanan was, in Tom Brokaw's famous words, a "homicidal homosexual." See? The gay made him do it. But when a white kid murders dozens of children, we don't ask whether the predominant Christian religion in America somehow radicalized him, or whether his upbringing was somehow less American than anyone else's. Stupid questions! Glad we don't ask them.

It is far more plausible that American gun culture, the way that Americans are uncomfortable with people who are different, the gaps in the mental heath system, and a hundred other things, some of which cannot ever be controlled, pushed these two men over the edge. If it was Islam, or a hidden network of radical jihadists, then these types of events would not be rare in America. That they are is the answer to whether Islamic radicalization is a problem that Americans can and must contend with by stigmatizing Muslims.

What is it about America that so alienates young men? What is it about their community — Cambridge, lower-middle class, American popular culture — that isolated them and encouraged their pursuit of a different way to add meaning to their lives? Here's the thing: We won't really ever know. We rightfully seek closure and answers, but we ought to come to grips with the reality that violence against random others is often a conspiracy of the mind.

I love American culture, and I also think that something about living in a modern society loosens the moorings that prevent us from acting on our deepest, ugliest thoughts. Maybe in America it's a combination of economic distress, mass media, access to guns, bias and prejudice; maybe elsewhere it's the decline of ordering institutions like the church. The two suspects were Cantabrigians before they were Chechens. They were Americans before they Chechens. They were Americans; one was apparently a Muslim who had found a lovely girlfriend and never seemed to find that his religion was incompatible with whatever "normal" America is supposed to be.

Bias against Muslims is real and it hurts. And the easiest way to radicalize un-radicalized people is to treat them like enemies.

http://theweek.com/article/index/243051/the-insanity-of-blaming-islam

But it was ok for the lap dog liberal obama sychophant media like tingles to suppose it was right wing extremists, don't be such an asshole.
 
The reason God is knowable is through Jesus, but that does not mean that the unknowable Allah is not the same entity, it's just that Islam does not acknowledge Jesus so to them Allah is unknowable. Also I know of no bible passage that says we are capable of knowing all of Gods ways.

They acknowledge Jesus, they just think he was only a Prophet, and not as good as "The Prophet"...

Jesus shows up again in their version of the end of the world and will be the executioner of all those who did not submit to Allah.
 
They acknowledge Jesus, they just think he was only a Prophet, and not as good as "The Prophet"...

Jesus shows up again in their version of the end of the world and will be the executioner of all those who did not submit to Allah.
So basically in Islam Jesus is the Hasatan?
 
So basically in Islam Jesus is the Hasatan?

No, I wouldn't say that. Even in Christianity Jesus isn't too nice to the people who didn't believe in Him at the end...

He's doing the will of Allah, by executing those who didn't submit to Allah's will. Hasatan would be the one that led them astray and caused them to sin. Basically "the Adversary" it is his job to tempt people, to be what Kings would hire "fools" for, to say the things that others would no and to argue with him. The Adversary would take Jesus out and try to get him to use magic to change a stone to bread... But isn't the entity that stands with God at the end of the world and is the Judge and Executioner.

When you read about HaSatan in the Old Testament, it is clear that the Adversary (HaSatan) is clearly "with" God. He tempts Job, after making a "bet" with God. Basically what Christians later find to be the absolute opposite of God in Satan is really the servant of God...
 
All reputable scholars who publish papers in peer reviewed sources call Judaism, Islam and Christianity the Abrahamic religions.

I don't know what sources you get your information from, but I tend to hold in higher esteem the people who have combed the scriptures,read them in the original languages and know more than you do about the subject.

This is how I have come by my conclusions, I am not sure where you get your information.

Yep, once the reputable men of higher and great learning all agreed that the world was flat. How'd that one work out hotshot?
You haven't a clue about Islam and the massive widespread infiltration of it's propaganda over the last 6 decades have you?
Islam has nothing to do with the God of Abraham. That God sent his son Jesus to die for all mankind's sins. The Muslim God= Allah sent Mohammad to use treachery, murder ,rape and looting to advance a very materialistic kingdom taken from millions of murdered victims.
Get a clue, they are as far apart as is the surface of the Sun to absolute zero..
 
They acknowledge Jesus, they just think he was only a Prophet, and not as good as "The Prophet"...

Jesus shows up again in their version of the end of the world and will be the executioner of all those who did not submit to Allah.

cite?
 
Yep, once the reputable men of higher and great learning all agreed that the world was flat. How'd that one work out hotshot?
You haven't a clue about Islam and the massive widespread infiltration of it's propaganda over the last 6 decades have you?
Islam has nothing to do with the God of Abraham. That God sent his son Jesus to die for all mankind's sins. The Muslim God= Allah sent Mohammad to use treachery, murder ,rape and looting to advance a very materialistic kingdom taken from millions of murdered victims.
Get a clue, they are as far apart as is the surface of the Sun to absolute zero..

i am rather curious where you get your information

also, you seem to have a rabid hatred of muslims
 
All reputable scholars who publish papers in peer reviewed sources call Judaism, Islam and Christianity the Abrahamic religions.

they call them the Abrahamic religions because that is their point of departure......if they had anything in common later they would be called Davidian or Isaiahic or Peterian......
 
They acknowledge Jesus, they just think he was only a Prophet, and not as good as "The Prophet"...

Jesus shows up again in their version of the end of the world and will be the executioner of all those who did not submit to Allah.

I knew that..poorly written on my part, thanks for clearing it up.
 
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