The insanity of blaming Islam

Aoxomoxoa said:
Background checks should be universal and cover all ways of buying and selling, no loopholes.
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Should we apply similar "reasonable restrictions" on other Amendments? 1st Amendment? 4th Amendment? 14th Amendment?

Wouldn't registering a gun disproportionately impact coloreds since they don't have IDs which are necessary for purchasing a gun? We know they don't have IDs because we can't check them for voting purposes. Why do you hate coloreds?
 
Don Quixote said:
then it needs better enforcement...maybe add in any penalties incurred by the users of the weapons sold...not concurrent but added on
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Why? Because people who are buying guns without a background check are shooting up theaters and schools? None of the recent events which have sparked this debate, would have been prevented by more stringent background checks. The guy in Aurora had nothing in his background to prevent him from a legal purchase, the guy in Newtown stole his guns.

There is not a loophole, it is illegal to sell firearms without a background check. If it happens, it happens because people break the law. Passing another law is not going to make people obey the law any more than they do now. The recent shootings are being exploited to push for more gun control by the left. You are jumping on it because you're an emotive little bitch. Instead of emotively reacting, why not do something that would actually HELP-- give firearm dealers the ability to reject sales based on their own discretion about the potential customer.
 
Steelplate said:
Do you see that everyone of the faith of Islam must be a terrorist and dealt with as such?

The rest? Is pure paranoia. Expanded checks include private sales.... that's it.
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Don't put words in my mouth and then claim come kind of bullshit victory....I didn't say that.....

But I'll address you smear and lies.....

I see everyone of the Islamic faith as an already brainwashed nut.....all they have to do is follow their faith to become a dangerous murderer......
The faith itself, as practiced and taught by their religious leaders, teaches killing as a remedy for just about everything.....it teaches slavery of women....killing of gays....killing of infidels...
Its not that everyone of the faith MUST be a terrorist, its only those that practice the faith as its being taught.
 
Dixie said:
Why? Because people who are buying guns without a background check are shooting up theaters and schools? None of the recent events which have sparked this debate, would have been prevented by more stringent background checks. The guy in Aurora had nothing in his background to prevent him from a legal purchase, the guy in Newtown stole his guns.

There is not a loophole, it is illegal to sell firearms without a background check. If it happens, it happens because people break the law. Passing another law is not going to make people obey the law any more than they do now. The recent shootings are being exploited to push for more gun control by the left. You are jumping on it because you're an emotive little bitch. Instead of emotively reacting, why not do something that would actually HELP-- give firearm dealers the ability to reject sales based on their own discretion about the potential customer.
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You just gotta shake your head when you see that liberal idiots just don't have the common sense to understand the above post....

Its like they are denying the moon exists.....when just about any problem arises, they either pass a law, post a sign or spend more money to fight the problem....

Its just irrational lack of logical thinking....
 
NOVA said:
You just gotta shake your head when you see that liberal idiots just don't have the common sense to understand the above post....

Its like they are denying the moon exists.....when just about any problem arises, they either pass a law, post a sign or spend more money to fight the problem....

Its just irrational lack of logical thinking....
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It does appear to be irrational lack of logical thinking, but I think you are missing something. Their logic and rationale is the liberal agenda. Disarming us is a part of Socialist reform. Karl Marx talked about the importance of this, and I posted a long list of socialist leaders quotes on the topic. Mao said it best, a disarmed public can't rise up against the state. So you see, it's VERY logical and rational to a Socialist.
 
Dixie said:
Let me pose a hypothetical here....

Let's imagine, Pat Robertson was a little nuttier than he already is, and oh... about 20 years ago, he started preaching Christian Jihad! Inciting Christian followers to commit acts of terror against those who don't follow Robertson's Christian teachings. Now, while Robertson's fanatics are out there blowing shit up and killing innocent people, other prominent Christians, like Mike Huckabee and Billy Graham, aren't really condemning the acts, they are saying it's sad and unfortunate, but they remain mostly complacent about it. Christian schools all across America are now teaching Robertson's fanatical beliefs that Christians must kill all who don't believe, and this is a mandate from God.

In such a scenario, do you think the left would be defending Christianity? Would christie be explaining to us how it wasn't Christianity to blame for Robertson's fanaticism? Somehow, I just don't think that would be the sentiment, if this were a Chrisitan Jihad.
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I would continue to say Robertson and his branch of Christianity is nutty, but I would not blame my mother who practices the teachings of Jesus and exhibits to me, true Christianity.
 
Dixie said:
Yes, all of them, including those made at gun shows. It's against the law, and if it is happening, it is happening in violation of the law. Passing a new law will not help such a situation for obvious reasons.
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Please cite the law.

Thanks in advance.
 
Howey said:
There's another thread on here about the same point...why is it when a dark muslim does something heinous it reflects on the whole group of people but when a white christian does, it doesn't?
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Because radical Islam is organized, and radical Christianity is not. That makes the former much more widespread & dangerous. you would already know this, Howard, if you weren't pro-Shariah, yourself.
 
Rana said:
I would continue to say Robertson and his branch of Christianity is nutty, but I would not blame my mother who practices the teachings of Jesus and exhibits to me, true Christianity.
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I wouldn't either, but I don't see anyone blaming peaceful Muslims for anything. The question is, would you blame the fanaticism on the religion or not?
 
Howey said:
There's another thread on here about the same point...why is it when a dark muslim does something heinous it reflects on the whole group of people but when a white christian does, it doesn't?
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Because many prominent Christians are two-faced liars who never met a double standard they didn't embrace if it benefitted them.
 
Dixie said:
I wouldn't either, but I don't see anyone blaming peaceful Muslims for anything. The question is, would you blame the fanaticism on the religion or not?
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Is that important to you with Islam, and not Christianity?

I don't like organized religion - never have. I think the problem I have with the persecution of Islam has to do w/ those doing the persecuting. It's a real glass houses kind of thing if you look at Christianity's bloody past.
 
Islam is a disease. Many among the infected have managed to minimize the effects of the disease, particularly those that have been integrated into western culture and subjected to reason and liberal values (the antidotes for Islam). However, in at least one-fourth of the infected, the disease causes violent behavior, including the desire to kill those that are not likewise infected.
 
RazorX said:
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LOL

As soon as the bombing happened, the media went into overdrive on speculating that it was a white Republican tea party member,. Now that it has been confirmed that they were muslim terrorists, the liberals go into ovedrive to blame the USA as the cause of it.
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And their keeping it in overdrive to protect and apologize for the Muslims and Islamic nutjobs.....predictable to say the least.....

They just don't get it that they do it in name of Islam, for Islam, because of Islam....they have no other reasons for their barbarism....
 
Dixie said:
I wouldn't either, but I don't see anyone blaming peaceful Muslims for anything. The question is, would you blame the fanaticism on the religion or not?
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I blame people for fanaticism, they use various tools, like religion to justify their hate.
 
Disillusioned said:
Christians do don't do jihads, they never hurt anyone, they live on a little island and pray daily to jesus and grow flowers and love their neighbors as themselves, they donate weekly to charity and always have something nice to say about somebody, they never cause trouble and they think that it would all be wonderful if we could just get along.

I'd like to go further but I'm afraid some god will smite me for such a colossal lie.
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Real Christians do just that, they are the few......the rest are like you.
 
Rana said:
I would continue to say Robertson and his branch of Christianity is nutty, but I would not blame my mother who practices the teachings of Jesus and exhibits to me, true Christianity.
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Robertson don't tell his following to rise up and kill the nonbelievers does he.....?

Hes a harmless kook.....what you see as true Christianity is your myopic view....(and everyone has one)
 
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