The Inevitable EV Explosion

[Joe Capitalist]

Plug into the Future: The EV Trends to Look Out for in 2023

Electric vehicles are at the forefront of sustainable mobility, leading the automotive industry to undergo significant transformations. According to the International Energy Agency’s (IEA) latest Global EV Outlook, EV sales went from 1 to 10 million between 2017 and 2022, where it previously took the same amount of time to reach 1 million between 2012 and 2017. Last year alone, electric car sales increased by 55% compared to 2021.

China, Europe and the USA were the top three EV markets and accounted for 95% of global EV sales in 2022. Three emerging markets also stood out: India, Indonesia and Thailand, where EV sales more than tripled compared to the previous year.

Soaring opportunities for commercial electric vehicles

Sales of electric light commercial vehicles such as vans have surged by 90% in the past year. Electric heavy-duty vehicle sales have gone up by 45% between 2021 and 2022. Zero-emission buses now represent 4.5% of global bus sales and the IEA highlights that electric bus sales are much higher in countries that have prioritized greener alternatives for public transport: in Finland, they represent 65% of the country’s total bus sales.

Opportunities for electric heavy-duty vehicle development should flourish in the coming years: more than 200 new models entered the market in 2022 and 27 countries have pledged to reach 100% electric bus and truck sales by 2040.

Charging and fleet-as-a-service for electric trucks

Manufacturers can broaden their prospects by exploring the development of charging and battery-swapping stations for trucks that travel longer distances. The IEA draws attention to the benefits of battery-as-a-service for heavy-duty vehicles: purchasing trucks and batteries separately and leasing the battery to vehicle owners reduces costs as well as extends battery life and performance by eliminating the need for ultra-fast charging. This also saves time for drivers who can exchange depleted batteries at dedicated battery-swapping stations in a few minutes instead of waiting for them to charge.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Widespread deployment of public charging stations

As EV adoption grows and vehicles gain in range, more publicly available charging stations will be needed, particularly fast charging stations. China leads with more than half of the world’s stock of public slow chargers, followed by Europe, where fast charger stock increased by 55% compared to 2021. India has set the objective to build charging stations at 25 km intervals on major highways, and the United States has invested $7.5 billion to build a national network of 500,000 EV chargers by 2030.

 

[ExpressLane]

So EVs inevitably explode? That sounds dangerous.

 

[Yakuda]

Widespread deployment of public charging stations

As EV adoption grows and vehicles gain in range, more publicly available charging stations will be needed, particularly fast charging stations. China leads with more than half of the world’s stock of public slow chargers, followed by Europe, where fast charger stock increased by 55% compared to 2021. India has set the objective to build charging stations at 25 km intervals on major highways, and the United States has invested $7.5 billion to build a national network of 500,000 EV chargers by 2030.

Other than forcing everyone to buy an EV which is what you cunts will ultimately do, convince me why I should buy an EV over a real car.

 

[Mr.Badguy]

Other than forcing everyone to buy an EV which is what you cunts will ultimately do, convince me why I should buy an EV over a real car.

Well as the technology gets better most downsides vs ICE will be fixed, much like how ICE vehicles are only as good as they are now because we've got the benefit of 100+ years of tweaking designs. But there are current advantages.

First, electricity can come from multiple sources whereas gas can only come from refined oil products (and a little corn these days), which is finite, and the refining process itself requires a lot of energy. Electric motors make more efficient use of that energy than ICE cars do, because again, the refining process becomes unnecessary, and less energy is lost in the form of heat. Less greenhouse gasses are emitted, less maintenance is required, no oil changes, no coolant leaks no spark plugs, air filters, etc. No rushing to the gas station before work.

Plus they're fucking fast.

https://youtube.com/shorts/PAqvGePs9NA?si=R_OinzelqayFSV7r

And some can do cool shit like this.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7BkxjHkOvYY&si=aVzDDGklA4teLW3n

 

[Yakuda]

Well as the technology gets better most downsides vs ICE will be fixed, much like how ICE vehicles are only as good as they are now because we've got the benefit of 100+ years of tweaking designs. But there are current advantages.

First, electricity can come from multiple sources whereas gas can only come from refined oil products (and a little corn these days), which is finite, and the refining process itself requires a lot of energy. Electric motors make more efficient use of that energy than ICE cars do, because again, the refining process becomes unnecessary, and less energy is lost in the form of heat. Less greenhouse gasses are emitted, less maintenance is required, no oil changes, no coolant leaks no spark plugs, air filters, etc. No rushing to the gas station before work.

Plus they're fucking fast.

https://youtube.com/shorts/PAqvGePs9NA?si=R_OinzelqayFSV7r

And some can do cool shit like this.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7BkxjHkOvYY&si=aVzDDGklA4teLW3n

Thank you. I do appreciate it. While I recognize the things you listed are benefits only two things on that list directly impact my day to day use of the vehicle which is my primary but not only concern. Those 2 things are "less maintenance is required" and "no rushing to the gas station before work". Of those 2 the first is most important to me as I spend very little time at the gas station when I do go. As to less maintenance I would have to investigate how much I would actually save. Thanks again.

 

[ExpressLane]

Thank you. I do appreciate it. While I recognize the things you listed are benefits only two things on that list directly impact my day to day use of the vehicle which is my primary but not only concern. Those 2 things are "less maintenance is required" and "no rushing to the gas station before work". Of those 2 the first is most important to me as I spend very little time at the gas station when I do go. As to less maintenance I would have to investigate how much I would actually save. Thanks again.

The time at a charging station is more than the time spent at a gas pump.

 

[Yakuda]

The time at a charging station is more than the time spent at a gas pump.

Oh I agree. At the present moment there is no significant advantage to the individual in owning an EV over an ICE. Unless someone sees virtue signaling as an advantage.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Well as the technology gets better most downsides vs ICE will be fixed, much like how ICE vehicles are only as good as they are now because we've got the benefit of 100+ years of tweaking designs. But there are current advantages.

First, electricity can come from multiple sources whereas gas can only come from refined oil products (and a little corn these days), which is finite, and the refining process itself requires a lot of energy. Electric motors make more efficient use of that energy than ICE cars do, because again, the refining process becomes unnecessary, and less energy is lost in the form of heat. Less greenhouse gasses are emitted, less maintenance is required, no oil changes, no coolant leaks no spark plugs, air filters, etc. No rushing to the gas station before work.

Plus they're fucking fast.

https://youtube.com/shorts/PAqvGePs9NA?si=R_OinzelqayFSV7r

And some can do cool shit like this.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7BkxjHkOvYY&si=aVzDDGklA4teLW3n

Yup, you nailed it, Mr, Badguy. And as technology increases, EVs will be less expensive. Batteries will be smaller but with greater range. More superchargers will be available.
As good as EVs are now, they're just going to get better and better.

 

[Mr.Badguy]

The time at a charging station is more than the time spent at a gas pump.

But you get the benefit of being able to charge from home. High speed chargers that provide more kW are much faster but at this point not every single EV is capable of it, and some people will take up space at those chargers when they don't need to simply because they don't know any better. More standardized charging would help that and it's making progress, as I believe Tesla's charging port has just become the industry standard.

All that time saved charging at home would easily offset a 15-30 minute charge during a road trip, and many hotels also have charging stations. Again, this will all get better over time.

Here's a good video about road tripping in an EV. As of right now, it just takes a little planning but it's entirely doable.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Vm_ASm2zfs&si=umgYg_gehknGKjfK

 

[Yakuda]

Yup, you nailed it, Mr, Badguy. And as technology increases, EVs will be less expensive. Batteries will be smaller but with greater range. More superchargers will be available.
As good as EVs are now, they're just going to get better and better.

And still no significant advantage for the individual in purchasing an EV over an ICE.

Even as shitty a vehicle as the Model T Ford was, compared to any vehicle today, it had SIGNIFICANT advantages over a horse. That's just not the case with an EV over an ICE.

 

[Truth Detector]

Plug into the Future: The EV Trends to Look Out for in 2023

Delusional dunce.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?207188-The-inevitable-EV-implosion

 

[Truth Detector]

Widespread deployment of public charging stations

As EV adoption grows and vehicles gain in range, more publicly available charging stations will be needed, particularly fast charging stations. China leads with more than half of the world’s stock of public slow chargers, followed by Europe, where fast charger stock increased by 55% compared to 2021. India has set the objective to build charging stations at 25 km intervals on major highways, and the United States has invested $7.5 billion to build a national network of 500,000 EV chargers by 2030.

There are about 115,000 gas stations in the U.S. Call me when you get to at least that number.

But meanwhile, in reality land, Democrats are destroying our electrical grid at the altar of man-caused global warming, shutting down nuclear power stations that would help sustain such an effort and demanding we all just stay home instead of driving anywhere that requires more than an hour drive from home.

Yes, if you like spending ten times the amount of time it takes to drive cross country, EV is your cup of tea. If you like empowering third world shit holes who destroy their climates to get the lithium required, EV is your cup of tea. If you like trying to dispose of highly toxic batteries and their fire potential, then EV is your cup of tea. If you like tripling and quadrupling your electric fees, then EV is your cup of tea.

DUMB.

 

[Truth Detector]

Well as the technology gets better most downsides vs ICE will be fixed,

More wishful thinking. How would these downsides be fixed? By forcing people to stay home? By shutting down efficient power production to have inefficient unpredictable power sources?

DUMB.

 

[Truth Detector]

The time at a charging station is more than the time spent at a gas pump.

That is a massive understatement. It can take as long as 7 hours to fully charge an EV that will only go about 150 miles in ideal conditions. In winter, all bets are off. And that is only if you have a level two 48 amp charging opportunity.

It takes about five minutes to fill a 20 gallon gas tank capable of over 400 miles. A friend from Canada recently bought a Tesla. I discouraged him from attempting to drive it to Florida unless he wanted to spend an additional four days minimum on the road. That is assuming he can even find sufficient charging between Toronto and Florida.

 

[Truth Detector]

Yup, you nailed it, Mr, Badguy. And as technology increases, EVs will be less expensive. Batteries will be smaller but with greater range. More superchargers will be available.
As good as EVs are now, they're just going to get better and better.

What technology needs to increase? DUMB.

 

[Truth Detector]

But you get the benefit of being able to charge from home. High speed chargers that provide more kW are much faster but at this point not every single EV is capable of it, and some people will take up space at those chargers when they don't need to simply because they don't know any better. More standardized charging would help that and it's making progress, as I believe Tesla's charging port has just become the industry standard.

It takes a 48 amp level two charger to charge a Tesla up in 8 to 12 hours. Most stations don't even meet this level. A Level 3 (480 V) takes 15 to 25 minutes. Such a thing is non-existent right now and unavailable to all home owners.

If all stations were upgraded to level 3 and only a quarter of the population drove EVs, the grid would shut down. Solar and Wind cannot keep up with any type of demand.

All that time saved charging at home would easily offset a 15-30 minute charge during a road trip, and many hotels also have charging stations. Again, this will all get better over time.

More wishful thinking. Most charging stations are already taken up by someone waiting for a partial charge.

Here's a good video about road tripping in an EV. As of right now, it just takes a little planning but it's entirely doable.

This only works if you have an immense amount of free time and don't mind the stress of always trying to calculate where to find the next charging station. The notion that there would be enough stations even in the next twenty years is wishful thinking.

The best way to riad trip with an EV is by leaving it in the garage.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

But you get the benefit of being able to charge from home. High speed chargers that provide more kW are much faster but at this point not every single EV is capable of it, and some people will take up space at those chargers when they don't need to simply because they don't know any better. More standardized charging would help that and it's making progress, as I believe Tesla's charging port has just become the industry standard.

All that time saved charging at home would easily offset a 15-30 minute charge during a road trip, and many hotels also have charging stations. Again, this will all get better over time.

Here's a good video about road tripping in an EV. As of right now, it just takes a little planning but it's entirely doable.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Vm_ASm2zfs&si=umgYg_gehknGKjfK

My wife and I took a college football trip to my alma mater last weekend. Charging on the way down took about 30 minutes. Enough time to use the rest rooms, drink a Gatorade and eat a bag of chips. The hotel we stayed at had a charger so I charged up overnight. On the way home, charged again, took about 25 minutes and again, enough time to use the rest room and get a snack.

No biggie.

But you're right. When not traveling, you just charge in your garage. How convenient is that?
No trips to the gas station. No gas spills. No noxious gas fumes. No checking the oil.

EVs are clearly better.

But because Trump hates EVs, the MAGA morons hate EVs. Trump does their thinking for them.

Sad.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Yup, you nailed it, Mr, Badguy. And as technology increases, EVs will be less expensive. Batteries will be smaller but with greater range. More superchargers will be available.
As good as EVs are now, they're just going to get better and better.

what is the current average price of an EV now, as compared to what you think it will be in say.......5 years?

 

[Lionfish]

Plug into the Future: The EV Trends to Look Out for in 2023

Electric vehicles are at the forefront of sustainable mobility, leading the automotive industry to undergo significant transformations. According to the International Energy Agency’s (IEA) latest Global EV Outlook, EV sales went from 1 to 10 million between 2017 and 2022, where it previously took the same amount of time to reach 1 million between 2012 and 2017. Last year alone, electric car sales increased by 55% compared to 2021.

China, Europe and the USA were the top three EV markets and accounted for 95% of global EV sales in 2022. Three emerging markets also stood out: India, Indonesia and Thailand, where EV sales more than tripled compared to the previous year.

Soaring opportunities for commercial electric vehicles

Sales of electric light commercial vehicles such as vans have surged by 90% in the past year. Electric heavy-duty vehicle sales have gone up by 45% between 2021 and 2022. Zero-emission buses now represent 4.5% of global bus sales and the IEA highlights that electric bus sales are much higher in countries that have prioritized greener alternatives for public transport: in Finland, they represent 65% of the country’s total bus sales.

Opportunities for electric heavy-duty vehicle development should flourish in the coming years: more than 200 new models entered the market in 2022 and 27 countries have pledged to reach 100% electric bus and truck sales by 2040.

Charging and fleet-as-a-service for electric trucks

Manufacturers can broaden their prospects by exploring the development of charging and battery-swapping stations for trucks that travel longer distances. The IEA draws attention to the benefits of battery-as-a-service for heavy-duty vehicles: purchasing trucks and batteries separately and leasing the battery to vehicle owners reduces costs as well as extends battery life and performance by eliminating the need for ultra-fast charging. This also saves time for drivers who can exchange depleted batteries at dedicated battery-swapping stations in a few minutes instead of waiting for them to charge.

Joey wet panties, explodes is the correct word.