The Godless Left

Charoite said:
In the past Christianity and Judaism had a fractured and aggressive relationship and there has been a lot of work at reconciliation since the holocaust happened with Catholic leaders spearheading changes.


Modern Catholic teachings about Judaism

To further the goal of reconciliation, the Catholic Church in 1971 established an internal International Catholic-Jewish Liaison Committee and the International Jewish Committee for Interreligious Consultations. (This Committee is not a part of the Church's Magisterium.)
On May 4, 2001, at the 17th meeting of the International Liaison Committee in New York, Church officials stated that they would change how Judaism is dealt with in Catholic seminaries and schools. In part, they stated:
The curricula of Catholic seminaries and schools of theology should reflect the central importance of the Church's new understanding of its relationship to Jews....Courses on Bible, developments by which both the Church and rabbinic Judaism emerged from early Judaism will establish a substantial foundation for ameliorating "the painful ignorance of the history and traditions of Judaism of which only negative aspects and often caricature seem to form part of the stock ideas of many Christians. (See notes on the Correct Way to Present Jews and Judaism in Catholic Preaching and Catechesis, #27, 1985[SUP][14][/SUP]) ...Courses dealing with the biblical, historical and theological aspects of relations between Jews and Christians should be an integral part of the seminary and theologate curriculum, and not merely electives. All who graduate from Catholic seminaries and theology schools should have studied the revolution in Catholic teaching on Jews and Judaism from Nostra aetate to the prayer of Pope John Paul II in Jerusalem at the Western Wall on March 26, 2000....For historic reasons, many Jews find it difficult to overcome generational memories of anti-Semitic oppression. Therefore: Lay and Religious Jewish leaders need to advocate and promote a program of education in our Jewish schools and seminaries – about the history of Catholic-Jewish relations and knowledge of Christianity and its relationship to Judaism....Encouragement of dialogue between the two faiths does involve recognition, understanding and respect for each other's beliefs, without having to accept them. It is particularly important that Jewish schools teach about the Second Vatican Council, and subsequent documents and attitudinal changes that opened new perspectives and possibilities for both faiths. In October 2015 the Catholic Church in Poland published a letter referring to antisemitism as a sin against the commandment to love one's neighbor. The letter also acknowledged the heroism of those Poles who risked their lives to shelter Jews as Nazi Germany carried out the Holocaust in occupied Poland. The bishops who signed the letter cited the Polish Pope John Paul II who was opposed to antisemitism, and believed in founding Catholic-Jewish relations.[SUP][15][/SUP]
In December 2015, the Vatican released a 10,000-word document that, among other things, stated that Jews do not need to be converted to find salvation, and that Catholics should work with Jews to fight antisemitism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Judaism
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RomanDmowski said:
Palestinian Christians probably have not much more, or less ancient Hebrew genetic lineage than Ashkenazi Jews.
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Did the Messiah have to come in the first century? Yes. Why? Because all of the genealogical records were destroyed in the fire of A.D. 70.

Yeshua had to prove lineage to David and Judah.

It does not matter what percentages Jew has. If his father is Jewish then he is a Jew.
Salvation is of the Jews. (Sounds like we might need to claim that verse for Catholics so yeah, we are Israel) get the point?
 
RomanDmowski said:
Lol, semantics gone wrong.

The people of Israel are actually based on spiritual nature, and to those who accept Jesus are the true people of Israel.
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I understand how you believe that completely. And I’m right about the allegorical hermeneutic. You see brother, the literal interpretation cannot be fully utilized with your position. That is why Israel to you is not Israel. I understand. I disagree. I believe the Bible could be taken literally and at face value.

It is when one has a preconceived philosophical prejudice that he must resort to another than literal rendering of the holy texts.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
/shrugs.....and my point is your point is an outright lie and exactly what you would expect from an atheist with no set moral compass.......
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I have no moral compass?

Ok. Then answer this question: Can you name one act that a religious person can do that an atheist can't do? Because I can name many, many evil deeds done by religious lunatics that I would never do.

Another question. Who has the moral compass: the believer who does good deeds because he expects heavenly reward, or the nonbeliever who does good deeds without expectation of reward?
 
Michael_Panetta said:
I have no moral compass?

Ok. Then answer this question: Can you name one act that a religious person can do that an atheist can't do? Because I can name many, many deeds done by religious lunatics that I would never do.

Another question. Who has the moral compass: the believer who does good deeds because he expects heavenly reward, or the nonbeliever who does good deeds without expectation of reward?
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Question 1. I can be a living sacrifice as a slave or a master, a king or a begger and nothing can affect my joy, it remains eternal.

Question 2. The scriptures are the final authority in all things pertaining to man.
 
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