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RomanDmowski said:
Many Jews hate Catholics.

Some are completely feral about it.

They make CFM seem calm & reserved.
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In the past Christianity and Judaism had a fractured and aggressive relationship and there has been a lot of work at reconciliation since the holocaust happened with Catholic leaders spearheading changes.


Modern Catholic teachings about Judaism

To further the goal of reconciliation, the Catholic Church in 1971 established an internal International Catholic-Jewish Liaison Committee and the International Jewish Committee for Interreligious Consultations. (This Committee is not a part of the Church's Magisterium.)
On May 4, 2001, at the 17th meeting of the International Liaison Committee in New York, Church officials stated that they would change how Judaism is dealt with in Catholic seminaries and schools. In part, they stated:
The curricula of Catholic seminaries and schools of theology should reflect the central importance of the Church's new understanding of its relationship to Jews....Courses on Bible, developments by which both the Church and rabbinic Judaism emerged from early Judaism will establish a substantial foundation for ameliorating "the painful ignorance of the history and traditions of Judaism of which only negative aspects and often caricature seem to form part of the stock ideas of many Christians. (See notes on the Correct Way to Present Jews and Judaism in Catholic Preaching and Catechesis, #27, 1985[SUP][14][/SUP]) ...Courses dealing with the biblical, historical and theological aspects of relations between Jews and Christians should be an integral part of the seminary and theologate curriculum, and not merely electives. All who graduate from Catholic seminaries and theology schools should have studied the revolution in Catholic teaching on Jews and Judaism from Nostra aetate to the prayer of Pope John Paul II in Jerusalem at the Western Wall on March 26, 2000....For historic reasons, many Jews find it difficult to overcome generational memories of anti-Semitic oppression. Therefore: Lay and Religious Jewish leaders need to advocate and promote a program of education in our Jewish schools and seminaries – about the history of Catholic-Jewish relations and knowledge of Christianity and its relationship to Judaism....Encouragement of dialogue between the two faiths does involve recognition, understanding and respect for each other's beliefs, without having to accept them. It is particularly important that Jewish schools teach about the Second Vatican Council, and subsequent documents and attitudinal changes that opened new perspectives and possibilities for both faiths. In October 2015 the Catholic Church in Poland published a letter referring to antisemitism as a sin against the commandment to love one's neighbor. The letter also acknowledged the heroism of those Poles who risked their lives to shelter Jews as Nazi Germany carried out the Holocaust in occupied Poland. The bishops who signed the letter cited the Polish Pope John Paul II who was opposed to antisemitism, and believed in founding Catholic-Jewish relations.[SUP][15][/SUP]
In December 2015, the Vatican released a 10,000-word document that, among other things, stated that Jews do not need to be converted to find salvation, and that Catholics should work with Jews to fight antisemitism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Judaism
 
Charoite said:
In the past Christianity and Judaism had a fractured and aggressive relationship there has been a lot of work at reconciliation since the holocaust happened with Catholic leaders spearheading changes.


[h=2]Modern Catholic teachings about Judaism[/h]To further the goal of reconciliation, the Catholic Church in 1971 established an internal International Catholic-Jewish Liaison Committee and the International Jewish Committee for Interreligious Consultations. (This Committee is not a part of the Church's Magisterium.)
On May 4, 2001, at the 17th meeting of the International Liaison Committee in New York, Church officials stated that they would change how Judaism is dealt with in Catholic seminaries and schools. In part, they stated:
The curricula of Catholic seminaries and schools of theology should reflect the central importance of the Church's new understanding of its relationship to Jews....Courses on Bible, developments by which both the Church and rabbinic Judaism emerged from early Judaism will establish a substantial foundation for ameliorating "the painful ignorance of the history and traditions of Judaism of which only negative aspects and often caricature seem to form part of the stock ideas of many Christians. (See notes on the Correct Way to Present Jews and Judaism in Catholic Preaching and Catechesis, #27, 1985[SUP][14][/SUP]) ...Courses dealing with the biblical, historical and theological aspects of relations between Jews and Christians should be an integral part of the seminary and theologate curriculum, and not merely electives. All who graduate from Catholic seminaries and theology schools should have studied the revolution in Catholic teaching on Jews and Judaism from Nostra aetate to the prayer of Pope John Paul II in Jerusalem at the Western Wall on March 26, 2000....For historic reasons, many Jews find it difficult to overcome generational memories of anti-Semitic oppression. Therefore: Lay and Religious Jewish leaders need to advocate and promote a program of education in our Jewish schools and seminaries – about the history of Catholic-Jewish relations and knowledge of Christianity and its relationship to Judaism....Encouragement of dialogue between the two faiths does involve recognition, understanding and respect for each other's beliefs, without having to accept them. It is particularly important that Jewish schools teach about the Second Vatican Council, and subsequent documents and attitudinal changes that opened new perspectives and possibilities for both faiths. In October 2015 the Catholic Church in Poland published a letter referring to antisemitism as a sin against the commandment to love one's neighbor. The letter also acknowledged the heroism of those Poles who risked their lives to shelter Jews as Nazi Germany carried out the Holocaust in occupied Poland. The bishops who signed the letter cited the Polish Pope John Paul II who was opposed to antisemitism, and believed in founding Catholic-Jewish relations.[SUP][15][/SUP]
In December 2015, the Vatican released a 10,000-word document that, among other things, stated that Jews do not need to be converted to find salvation, and that Catholics should work with Jews to fight antisemitism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Judaism
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Are you Jewish?

Hitler killed Catholics too.
 
RomanDmowski said:
Right, bigotry is one sided in this country.

If one points out German crimes in WW2, hardly nobody raises an eyebrow of bigotry against Germans.

But, if one points out Black crimes in the streets of America, so many people lose their minds, shrieking bigotry flailing desperately about racist monsters.

Still, it's not Christian to truly be hateful.
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It's Christian to be truthful and the truth is never hateful, it's just the truth.
 
Bill said:
Never the smart one in class are you......:palm:

Go goggle fear in the bible after you get back from the dinning hall
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So far ahead of you, you think you're in first place.

I don't have to google it to know you're wrong.

I also don't have to google it to know dining is not spelled "dinning". And you talk about someone not being smart.
 
Charoite said:
I'm a devout Christian that was raised Catholic. I'm true to the bone in the philosophy of Christ. I've even had plenty of issues with the Church myself when something doesn't reflect how Christ acted and taught.
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Many Jews are anti Catholic, although out of all Catholics they tend to hate Polish Catholics the most.
 
BidenPresident said:
By that standard, there are no legitimate Christians.
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That makes no sense. True Christians emulate Christ to the truest fashion, and there are more in name only than those that are true. Here's a true emulator of Christ's test. If a person wanted by the law finds their way to your place starved and heavily injured, what do you do? A true emulator of Christ would tend to them and deal with the semantics afterwards.
 
RomanDmowski said:
Proof that Catholics changed the scriptures to hate Jews?

The Holocaust was mostly inspired & perpetrated by German Lutherans.

Pogroms were mostly by Orthodox Christians.

The Inquisition was by Spanish Catholics mostly.

True, also true is Ashkenazi are heavily White & mostly spoke Yiddish a German based language.

That means they have little in common with Ancient Hebrews.
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Augustine did not change the scriptures they are intact and they are the plenary inspired word of God.

What happened was the gentile church fathers excommunicated the Jewish church fathers in the 3rd century. This happened out of the Easter controversy. You can look that up if you care.

Because Augustine became a “Christian” (more like a Catholic) he used executive order to decree every citizen of Rome to be Christian. At that time the mysteries religions were the cultural norms in Rome, Greece, and among the Roman provinces. Because the populous were heavily seated in idolatrous practices it was politically prudent for Auggie and Sons to create an interpretation that could mix Christianity the world’s newest religion with the belief systems of their day. This was not possible if the Jewish nation of the Old Testament were seen as a literal race of Abe’s descendants who were called to be spiritual guides to the Gentiles.

In the third century, the mystery religions were all based upon the pre deluge period of history (Gen 6) where angelic beings fornicated with human women creating a hybrid race of super humans. What scripture condemned, the lefty’s glorified producing the same gods in Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome. Same gods different names.

This was the opening for Auggie and the boys to create a new science of biblical study - allegory. By making the church the true Israel the early church fathers succeeded in the amalgamation of all of the Roman citizens into Christendom.

These are facts. The evidence is there for any Trump Dick and Harry to investigate.
I am a literalist and what Augustine did is a matter of public record.
 
Charoite said:
Scripture does seem to have had some alterations but any idea of the aforementioned between Catholics and Jews is simply preposterous. Did the troll claim that? The Jews have high recognition in Catholicism.

The inquisition and alike were done by the usual ruler using religion as a tool or even a weapon. It's been a trend since time immemorial and inspired the reasonings behind separation of Church and state.
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Charoite said:
That makes no sense. True Christians emulate Christ to the truest fashion, and there are more in name only than those that are true. Here's a true emulator of Christ's test. If a person wanted by the law finds their way to your place starved and heavily injured, what do you do? A true emulator of Christ would tend to them and deal with the semantics afterwards.
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It makes sense. You judge others. Who made you God?
 
Peace n Safety said:
Augustine did not change the scriptures they are intact and they are the plenary inspired word of God.

What happened was the gentile church fathers excommunicated the Jewish church fathers in the 3rd century. This happened out of the Easter controversy. You can look that up if you care.

Because Augustine became a “Christian” (more like a Catholic) he used executive order to decree every citizen of Rome to be Christian. At that time the mysteries religions were the cultural norms in Rome, Greece, and among the Roman provinces. Because the populous were heavily seated in idolatrous practices it was politically prudent for Auggie and Sons to create an interpretation that could mix Christianity the world’s newest religion with the belief systems of their day. This was not possible if the Jewish nation of the Old Testament were seen as a literal race of Abe’s descendants who were called to be spiritual guides to the Gentiles.

In the third century, the mystery religions were all based upon the pre deluge period of history (Gen 6) where angelic beings fornicated with human women creating a hybrid race of super humans. What scripture condemned, the lefty’s glorified producing the same gods in Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome. Same gods different names.

This was the opening for Auggie and the boys to create a new science of biblical study - allegory. By making the church the true Israel the early church fathers succeeded in the amalgamation of all of the Roman citizens into Christendom.

These are facts. The evidence is there for any Trump Dick and Harry to investigate.
I am a literalist and what Augustine did is a matter of public record.
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Palestinian Christians probably have not much more, or less ancient Hebrew genetic lineage than Ashkenazi Jews.
 
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