The Family Who Lobbies Together

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...will stay together! Ahhh, how it warms the cockles (what exactly are cockles anyway, because I always feel funny typing that, maybe it's me) to hear tell of "The Outsider" who is going to get on his horse, or, his beat up old red-pick up truck, depending on the weather, and ride into Washington DC, a place he hardly has heard tell of, and he is going to clean that thar dirty town right up.

And, he's going to take his boys with him. Yes, his two, hometown, old boys are going to ride into town with Pa. Bringing us those old time family values our own grandmas used to wax poetic about. Who can forget grannie's stories about family lobbying?

WASHINGTON, June 29 — On Christmas Eve 1994, Fred D. Thompson Jr. was out of a job. A 34-year-old self-described late bloomer, Mr. Thompson had graduated from law school just two years before and practiced law only for his father, Fred D. Thompson Sr., who was about to be sworn in as a senator from Tennessee.

“I was out on the street, knocking on doors,” recalled the younger Mr. Thompson, who is known as Tony.

But attending Brentwood Methodist Church in Nashville that night, Tony Thompson ran into the departing incumbent senator, Harlan Mathews, a Democrat. Mr. Mathews invited Tony to join him in a Nashville lobbying business, a job that would let him capitalize on his father’s new position.

“I don’t just believe in the tooth fairy,” Mr. Mathews said. “A lot of people were seeking access — not necessarily unfair access, but seeking access — so Tony was employed in a number of areas where his father had made a reputation or his father’s advice or whatever was going to be valuable one of these days.”

Now the elder Mr. Thompson, who also worked as a lobbyist before and after his eight years in the Senate, is aiming for an even higher post, preparing a run for the Republican presidential nomination. In the folksy drawl that built him a lucrative sideline as a screen actor, Mr. Thompson is presenting himself as a reform-minded outsider taking on Washington, just as he did when he campaigned for the Senate as “Ol’ Fred” the “real live country lawyer,” and cruised Tennessee in a rented red pickup truck.

But the lobbying work that Tony Thompson and another son, Daniel, did after their father won his Senate seat suggests how far the family has traveled from Fred Thompson’s early career. Not only has he parlayed his own political background into a lobbying business — a fact his opponents have seized on to challenge his outsider image — but his sons have also made lobbying a family affair.

Mr. Thompson and his advisers declined to comment. Although clients valued Tony Thompson’s service because of the perception that he had access to his father, Mr. Mathews said, Senator Thompson was sensitive to the potential appearance of favoritism to his sons’ clients and sought to keep a distance. Rather than relying on his father, Tony Thompson relied mainly on political contacts in Tennessee he had made campaigning for his father, Mr. Mathews said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/02/us/politics/02thompson.html?hp
 
Ummm, I don't think this nation can afford any more "late bloomers", or dudes who bounced from job to job not really knowing what they wanted to do with their lives. That's how we got Dubya.


I want somebody who is exceptional. Someone ambitious. Someone who is driven. Someone who didn't have to wait until their mid 40s to figure our what they wanted in life.

In short, I don't want anymore "average joes". American's chief executive needs to be an ambitious and driven person.
 
Thompson is no "late bloomer" and has a record of clear and direct access in those circles. To compare him to Bush is a bit myopic.
 
Thompson is no "late bloomer" and has a record of clear and direct access in those circles. To compare him to Bush is a bit myopic.


"On Christmas Eve 1994, Fred D. Thompson Jr. was out of a job. A 34-year-old self-described late bloomer, Mr. Thompson had graduated from law school just two years before and practiced law only for his father, Fred D. Thompson Sr., who was about to be sworn in as a senator from Tennessee."
 
Thompson is no "late bloomer" and has a record of clear and direct access in those circles. To compare him to Bush is a bit myopic.

Also, most of his career choices did not involve leadership. His careers were self-serving: actor and lobbyist. Nothing wrong with those jobs, but it doesn't demonstrate that someone is ambitious to be a leader.

A CEO, a business owner, a General, a Governor, a Mayor - those are ambitious leadership jobs, staffed by ambitious and driven people.

Thomspon doesn't have a life showing ambition and drive to be a leader.
 
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Personally I am against him as the source of his money is from the same sourcing as GWB. I prefer to stay away from candidates these people promote in the primaries. I am hoping most Rs are tired of it as well.
 
Ummm, I don't think this nation can afford any more "late bloomers", or dudes who bounced from job to job not really knowing what they wanted to do with their lives. That's how we got Dubya.


I want somebody who is exceptional. Someone ambitious. Someone who is driven. Someone who didn't have to wait until their mid 40s to figure our what they wanted in life.

In short, I don't want anymore "average joes". American's chief executive needs to be an ambitious and driven person.

Am I missing something? Isn't the Fred Thompson Jr. they are talking about Thompson's son? Are guy's disqualified for running for President because they have a son that's a late bloomer?
 
Am I missing something? Isn't the Fred Thompson Jr. they are talking about Thompson's son? Are guy's disqualified for running for President because they have a son that's a late bloomer?
Apparently so. In 1994 when his son was 34, Thompson is clearly older than that....

I guess if your son isn't ambitious enough you are no longer considered qualified regardless of your past as a Senator, etc.
 
Also, most of his career choices did not involve leadership. His careers were self-serving: actor and lobbyist. Nothing wrong with those jobs, but it doesn't demonstrate that someone is ambitious to be a leader.

A CEO, a business owner, a General, a Governor, a Mayor - those are ambitious leadership jobs, staffed by ambitious and driven people.

Thomspon doesn't have a life showing ambition and drive to be a leader.


I agree with you on the qualities you list as being best served for President. That is why I believe so few people running from the Senate have won the Presidency. Being in the Senate does not take leadership. That's why I don't think Hillary, Obama, Edwards or McCain will win.

Usually I would discount Mayor's but it can be argued that being Mayor of New York or LA could qualify as those cities are bigger than some states.
 
I stand corrected. I didn't notice there was a "Jr." and an "Sr." in that first paragraph.


I still don't like the fact that Fred Thompson, Senior, has shown very little drive and ambition for leadership roles. I mean, acting and lobbying are self-serving jobs. Jobs that pay well for sure, but they aren't really leadership jobs.


We're going to need a leader in 2009. Somebody who's driven and ambitious. Somebody who's spent their life preparing to lead.
 
...will stay together! Ahhh, how it warms the cockles (what exactly are cockles anyway, because I always feel funny typing that, maybe it's me) to hear tell of "The Outsider" who is going to get on his horse, or, his beat up old red-pick up truck, depending on the weather, and ride into Washington DC, a place he hardly has heard tell of, and he is going to clean that thar dirty town right up.

And, he's going to take his boys with him. Yes, his two, hometown, old boys are going to ride into town with Pa. Bringing us those old time family values our own grandmas used to wax poetic about. Who can forget grannie's stories about family lobbying?

WASHINGTON, June 29 — On Christmas Eve 1994, Fred D. Thompson Jr. was out of a job. A 34-year-old self-described late bloomer, Mr. Thompson had graduated from law school just two years before and practiced law only for his father, Fred D. Thompson Sr., who was about to be sworn in as a senator from Tennessee.

“I was out on the street, knocking on doors,” recalled the younger Mr. Thompson, who is known as Tony.

But attending Brentwood Methodist Church in Nashville that night, Tony Thompson ran into the departing incumbent senator, Harlan Mathews, a Democrat. Mr. Mathews invited Tony to join him in a Nashville lobbying business, a job that would let him capitalize on his father’s new position.

“I don’t just believe in the tooth fairy,” Mr. Mathews said. “A lot of people were seeking access — not necessarily unfair access, but seeking access — so Tony was employed in a number of areas where his father had made a reputation or his father’s advice or whatever was going to be valuable one of these days.”

Now the elder Mr. Thompson, who also worked as a lobbyist before and after his eight years in the Senate, is aiming for an even higher post, preparing a run for the Republican presidential nomination. In the folksy drawl that built him a lucrative sideline as a screen actor, Mr. Thompson is presenting himself as a reform-minded outsider taking on Washington, just as he did when he campaigned for the Senate as “Ol’ Fred” the “real live country lawyer,” and cruised Tennessee in a rented red pickup truck.

But the lobbying work that Tony Thompson and another son, Daniel, did after their father won his Senate seat suggests how far the family has traveled from Fred Thompson’s early career. Not only has he parlayed his own political background into a lobbying business — a fact his opponents have seized on to challenge his outsider image — but his sons have also made lobbying a family affair.

Mr. Thompson and his advisers declined to comment. Although clients valued Tony Thompson’s service because of the perception that he had access to his father, Mr. Mathews said, Senator Thompson was sensitive to the potential appearance of favoritism to his sons’ clients and sought to keep a distance. Rather than relying on his father, Tony Thompson relied mainly on political contacts in Tennessee he had made campaigning for his father, Mr. Mathews said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/02/us/politics/02thompson.html?hp
interesting, but I don't get your point. But i have a observation in reference to your first question:

(quote) ...will stay together! Ahhh, how it warms the cockles (what exactly are cockles anyway, because I always feel funny typing that, 9inquote0

Aren't "cockels" somthing the Fish monger sold on steet corners? TO WIT: "Crying Cockels, and mussels, alive or live 'O"

Something seems fishy here, but I had to mention it just for the halibuut
 
interesting, but I don't get your point. But i have a observation in reference to your first question:

(quote) ...will stay together! Ahhh, how it warms the cockles (what exactly are cockles anyway, because I always feel funny typing that, 9inquote0

Aren't "cockels" somthing the Fish monger sold on steet corners? TO WIT: "Crying Cockels, and mussels, alive or live 'O"

Something seems fishy here, but I had to mention it just for the halibuut

My point is that "The Outsider" is in fact, The Insider.

I don't know, maybe that is what cockles are.
 
Oh Ornot, they're actually very pretty!
Yes, but they're still basically clams. I don't care for clams, personally. :o

Anyway -- subduing the would-be hijacker, that being myself -- yes, to paint Thompson as an "outsider" is ridiculous. That whole red pickup truck thing was phony.
 
Ummm, I don't think this nation can afford any more "late bloomers", or dudes who bounced from job to job not really knowing what they wanted to do with their lives. That's how we got Dubya.


I want somebody who is exceptional. Someone ambitious. Someone who is driven. Someone who didn't have to wait until their mid 40s to figure our what they wanted in life.

In short, I don't want anymore "average joes". American's chief executive needs to be an ambitious and driven person.

Eh?

Fred Thompson Jr. ain't running for president. That would be difficult for him.

But most "ambitious and driven" people I know mostly fake it. Their robots and sheeps who take what the teacher spits out, memorizes it, writes it down, and then forget it. Then they ruthlessly abuse others to get to the position they want, like president. That's not what I want out of a chief executive, but that's how it turns out usually.
 
Also, most of his career choices did not involve leadership. His careers were self-serving: actor and lobbyist. Nothing wrong with those jobs, but it doesn't demonstrate that someone is ambitious to be a leader.

A CEO, a business owner, a General, a Governor, a Mayor - those are ambitious leadership jobs, staffed by ambitious and driven people.

Thomspon doesn't have a life showing ambition and drive to be a leader.

Again, Cypress. Learn reading comprehension. I don't know what Fred Thompson Sr. did for his life. He may very well have done more than lobbying, and he apparently led a very succesful law firm (which would make him a business owner, BTW). Fred Thompson Jr., also, was never an actor.
 
I stand corrected. I didn't notice there was a "Jr." and an "Sr." in that first paragraph.


I still don't like the fact that Fred Thompson, Senior, has shown very little drive and ambition for leadership roles. I mean, acting and lobbying are self-serving jobs. Jobs that pay well for sure, but they aren't really leadership jobs.


We're going to need a leader in 2009. Somebody who's driven and ambitious. Somebody who's spent their life preparing to lead.

I don't want a leader. I don't want a Hitler. I want someone to let me live my own life, not shove me around to make themselves look better.
 
I don't want a leader. I don't want a Hitler. I want someone to let me live my own life, not shove me around to make themselves look better.

WM, there's a difference between a leader and a maniac.

The leader of the free world needs to be a person who is ambitious, and who has demonstrated qualities of leadership. Someone exceptional, who is willing - indeed "wants" to - be in charge and lead.

The same principles apply to somebody who wants to be a CEO at a corporation, or a four star General in the army. It doesn't serve anybody's interests to put some milquetoast weakling or "average joe" in charge of a corporation, an army, or a nation.

Bush has certainly shown us what happens when you put an 'average joe" in charge of a nation. He's a man who floated through life, and never demonstrated any drive or ambition on his own, until he was well into his 40s. And that's the reason Cheney actually controlls the country. He's able to walk all over Bush and tell him what to do. Bush is a weakling.
 
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