The Case for Banning Sharia Law in America

Islamists do their dirty deeds in the name of Mohammed and Islam. What is you evidence that McVeigh did his dirty deed in the name of Jesus and Christianity?
And most hate crimes against the LGBT community are in the name of christianity, many of the northern Ireland violence was christian based What does it matter why people excuse stupid violence, its still stupid violence and banning islam is not only going to push away muslims who don't hate us its going to tell the world, "Hey, we're america, **** you!"
 
The incompatibility of Islamic sharia law with secular courts stems from the underpinning of Islamism -- the unyielding union of the laws and punishments of the Qu'ran and Hadiths with the country's legal and political system. Sharia law is the legislation of these religious and criminal rules, which rejects America's constitutional secularism and legal penalties.

The Qu'ran commands Muslims to change secular laws to conform to sharia, eventually establishing Islamic law worldwide. Islamic courts want their fatwas to supersede the civil and criminal laws, untying Muslims from civil secular courts.

The facts reveal that in 2008, when the first sharia court was recognized in the U.K., within one year, over 85 recognized sharia courts were established within the U.K.'s Tribunal Court system. The problem with this rapidly spreading dogma is that several of these courts have issued some fatwas that are completely incompatible with British and European law.

As Islam is a male-dominated ideology, the laws of the Qu'ran make half of its devotees, its female population, second-class citizens. This inequality has drawn recent attention to the need for additional British legislation to rein in these courts so they abide by British law.

It appears that once any legal system opens its doors to Islamic law, that door will be hard to close...and eventually, the only thing missing will be a parallel Islamic government.

But even with this reality in front of Americans, there are still many who insist that our laws will prevent such circumstances from ever occurring in the U.S. And because of this nonchalant attitude, there are numbers of people, both Muslim and non-Muslim, who believe that sharia law is not a threat to non-Muslim Americans or to the Western liberal democratic rule of law.

Sharia Law Is in the U.S.

The possibility that Muslim-only towns and urban enclaves could be created in the U.S. seems unimaginable to most Americans, but it already is a reality. Just travel 150 mile northwest of New York City to the woods of the western Catskills, and you will find Islamberg, a private Muslim community founded in 1980 by Sheikh Syed Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani. Sheikh Gilani is said to be one of the founders of Jamaat al-Fuqra, a terrorist organization believed to be responsible for dozens of bombings and murders in the U.S. and abroad.

Islamberg is only one of twenty to thirty Muslim-only communities and training compounds that this Pakistani group supports through Muslim affiliates in America. This radical group has purchased land in isolated areas close to city networks and infrastructure. Jamaat al-Fuqra now has sites in Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, Pennsylvania, California, Washington, Colorado, Michigan, and Illinois, as well as Canada, Venezuela, and Trinidad.

The sharia debate in the U.S. is heating up as more and more Americans are reacting to lawyers requesting rulings based on sharia law, and local judges agreeing to make them. This has happened in a New Jersey divorce case, a Maryland child custody case, and most recently in a Florida property case. These cases are now a precedent for other American-Muslim communities. In addition, according to the Center for Security Policy study that was published in May 2011, there are actually over fifty Appellate Court cases from 23 states that all involve conflicts between sharia law and American state law.

There are numbers of Muslim community leaders challenging the delicate line between religious freedom and the laws against state religion by petitioning in favor of living under sharia law. The moment one court allows the establishment of an independently ruled enclave, others courts in liberal cities across the nation will petition for the same opportunity.

Another example of efforts to usurp the Constitution are the actions of the global Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), whose main agenda is to have "hate speech" laws enforced against anyone who criticizes Islam. And, unfortunately, there are those determined to enforce sharia on their own who attack and murder any nearby dissenters. The Qu'ran justifies and protects these people's violence by declaring that it is blasphemous to mock or degrade any component of Islam. According to sharia law, such activity is punishable by death.

It is this ongoing effort to shut down public criticism of Islam that presents the gravest danger to America -- one that the Muslim Brotherhood and its Salafist organizations regard as key to limiting individual rights over the rights of the community. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), along with other Islamic activist groups, continues to push back, often with demonization of character and follow-up lawsuits. Recently, intimidation and character assassination have been used against U.S. politicians who question Islamism or want hearings on issues relating to radical Islamic terrorism, along with those Congressmen who introduce state legislation to ban all foreign law.

Preventing Sharia through Legislation

The Court of Appeals is the system used to review lower court decisions and believed by some to be the stopgap against foreign law, including sharia, from entering our legal system. However, some Islamic cases that have reached the Appellate Court for review have retained the sharia rulings even in the face of sharia's contradiction to American civil law.

The U.S. is heading towards dangerous territory if its citizens buy into the twisting of constitutional amendments. Indeed, what everyone really needs is the interpretations of the laws as they are written in order to prevent the encroachment of Islamism into the court system.

The establishment of sharia courts within the arbitration laws is a leading objective of every peace-loving, kindhearted, moderate male Muslim. I have asked several male American Muslims whom I know, some living very happily in my community and in the U.S., what their one greatest wish is. The answer is always the same: "Everyone should be a Muslim."

The line must be drawn in states' legislatures, not in the courts. It is imperative that we recognize the differences between the religion of Islam and the ideology of Islamism. Political correctness is leading to interpretations of the Constitution and its amendments that are pushing America across that line.

If non-Muslim Americans do not recognize how close they are to the precipice, then they are beyond a shadow of a doubt going to fall victims to an Islamic conquest. Time is running out.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/the_case_for_banning_sharia_law_in_america.html#ixzz1daXToI00


i am curious, just how much do you know about sharia law?

if two people or groups agree to having a dispute decided under sharia law why not let them. such a situation may occur where all involved in a civil dispute agree to such an action because they do not understand u s of a law or do not agree with it

as for criminal cases, u s of a law needs to be used
 
The incompatibility of Islamic sharia law with secular courts stems from the underpinning of Islamism -- the unyielding union of the laws and punishments of the Qu'ran and Hadiths with the country's legal and political system. Sharia law is the legislation of these religious and criminal rules, which rejects America's constitutional secularism and legal penalties.

The Qu'ran commands Muslims to change secular laws to conform to sharia, eventually establishing Islamic law worldwide. Islamic courts want their fatwas to supersede the civil and criminal laws, untying Muslims from civil secular courts.

The facts reveal that in 2008, when the first sharia court was recognized in the U.K., within one year, over 85 recognized sharia courts were established within the U.K.'s Tribunal Court system. The problem with this rapidly spreading dogma is that several of these courts have issued some fatwas that are completely incompatible with British and European law.

As Islam is a male-dominated ideology, the laws of the Qu'ran make half of its devotees, its female population, second-class citizens. This inequality has drawn recent attention to the need for additional British legislation to rein in these courts so they abide by British law.

It appears that once any legal system opens its doors to Islamic law, that door will be hard to close...and eventually, the only thing missing will be a parallel Islamic government.

But even with this reality in front of Americans, there are still many who insist that our laws will prevent such circumstances from ever occurring in the U.S. And because of this nonchalant attitude, there are numbers of people, both Muslim and non-Muslim, who believe that sharia law is not a threat to non-Muslim Americans or to the Western liberal democratic rule of law.

Sharia Law Is in the U.S.

The possibility that Muslim-only towns and urban enclaves could be created in the U.S. seems unimaginable to most Americans, but it already is a reality. Just travel 150 mile northwest of New York City to the woods of the western Catskills, and you will find Islamberg, a private Muslim community founded in 1980 by Sheikh Syed Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani. Sheikh Gilani is said to be one of the founders of Jamaat al-Fuqra, a terrorist organization believed to be responsible for dozens of bombings and murders in the U.S. and abroad.

Islamberg is only one of twenty to thirty Muslim-only communities and training compounds that this Pakistani group supports through Muslim affiliates in America. This radical group has purchased land in isolated areas close to city networks and infrastructure. Jamaat al-Fuqra now has sites in Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, Pennsylvania, California, Washington, Colorado, Michigan, and Illinois, as well as Canada, Venezuela, and Trinidad.

The sharia debate in the U.S. is heating up as more and more Americans are reacting to lawyers requesting rulings based on sharia law, and local judges agreeing to make them. This has happened in a New Jersey divorce case, a Maryland child custody case, and most recently in a Florida property case. These cases are now a precedent for other American-Muslim communities. In addition, according to the Center for Security Policy study that was published in May 2011, there are actually over fifty Appellate Court cases from 23 states that all involve conflicts between sharia law and American state law.

There are numbers of Muslim community leaders challenging the delicate line between religious freedom and the laws against state religion by petitioning in favor of living under sharia law. The moment one court allows the establishment of an independently ruled enclave, others courts in liberal cities across the nation will petition for the same opportunity.

Another example of efforts to usurp the Constitution are the actions of the global Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), whose main agenda is to have "hate speech" laws enforced against anyone who criticizes Islam. And, unfortunately, there are those determined to enforce sharia on their own who attack and murder any nearby dissenters. The Qu'ran justifies and protects these people's violence by declaring that it is blasphemous to mock or degrade any component of Islam. According to sharia law, such activity is punishable by death.

It is this ongoing effort to shut down public criticism of Islam that presents the gravest danger to America -- one that the Muslim Brotherhood and its Salafist organizations regard as key to limiting individual rights over the rights of the community. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), along with other Islamic activist groups, continues to push back, often with demonization of character and follow-up lawsuits. Recently, intimidation and character assassination have been used against U.S. politicians who question Islamism or want hearings on issues relating to radical Islamic terrorism, along with those Congressmen who introduce state legislation to ban all foreign law.

Preventing Sharia through Legislation

The Court of Appeals is the system used to review lower court decisions and believed by some to be the stopgap against foreign law, including sharia, from entering our legal system. However, some Islamic cases that have reached the Appellate Court for review have retained the sharia rulings even in the face of sharia's contradiction to American civil law.

The U.S. is heading towards dangerous territory if its citizens buy into the twisting of constitutional amendments. Indeed, what everyone really needs is the interpretations of the laws as they are written in order to prevent the encroachment of Islamism into the court system.

The establishment of sharia courts within the arbitration laws is a leading objective of every peace-loving, kindhearted, moderate male Muslim. I have asked several male American Muslims whom I know, some living very happily in my community and in the U.S., what their one greatest wish is. The answer is always the same: "Everyone should be a Muslim."

The line must be drawn in states' legislatures, not in the courts. It is imperative that we recognize the differences between the religion of Islam and the ideology of Islamism. Political correctness is leading to interpretations of the Constitution and its amendments that are pushing America across that line.

If non-Muslim Americans do not recognize how close they are to the precipice, then they are beyond a shadow of a doubt going to fall victims to an Islamic conquest. Time is running out.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/the_case_for_banning_sharia_law_in_america.html#ixzz1daXToI00


Jews used to pay local governments to have ghettos where Jewish law prevailed over local laws

as for the Muslim desire for everyone to convert to Islam (not always the same version of Islam though) do not Christians also seek to convert all non-Christians to Christianity

the u s of a is to diverse to agree to one common religion

what does worry me is any religion growing strong enough to change the first amendment to allow the u s of a to become a theocracy
 
Isn't it interesting though that five men can talk about oral sex in a degrading context, but if one woman does it (even if she is being misunderstood, doesn't matter), everyone gets all up in arms?

I find that so interesting. I guess you all want to make sure that any woman who does feel, for whatever reason, that performing oral sex is degrading doesn't get the chance to convince anyone else of it, huh?

I mean, there was a stampede here. Hysterical. You know, I don't have that much influence with other women even if I was saying that! I don't think you'd all have to worry! What'd an alert go out on the male listserv? "ALERT; THERE'S A WOMAN CLAIMING BLOW JOBS ARE DEGRADING, ALL HANDS ON DECK!"

Please understand we are talking oral sex. Ridicule ones religion. Condemn their politics but never, ever talk bad about BJs. Don't even joke about it. :whoa:
 
You mean you disagree with my posts. Your idea of what is shallow could just be nothing more than not understanding what I'm talking about or that you simply disagree with me. Your post is nothing more than a personal opinion and vague. Any educated dummy can do that. If you want to seriously discuss a topic then go for it. You don't look like much to worry about. Dazzle me.

Sorctease has bowel movements which are more intellectualy endowed than you are.
 
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Darla did you know damo was a Buddhist? He's also a fat single guy who doesn't get any sex. Not shocking he's trolling you. I call him faux Buddha. Of course you'll grade my bad grammar.

I'll ask Tiger for some tips next week at the Faux Buddhist Annual Meeting. I'm sure I'll get me some then. Of course my wife may be a bit upset. So I'll avoid waitresses.
 
Isn't it interesting though that five men can talk about oral sex in a degrading context, but if one woman does it (even if she is being misunderstood, doesn't matter), everyone gets all up in arms?

Up in arms? I was making more of my normal bad jokes. I like making bad jokes.

I find that so interesting. I guess you all want to make sure that any woman who does feel, for whatever reason, that performing oral sex is degrading doesn't get the chance to convince anyone else of it, huh?
I find it interesting that fun wordplay excites your interest.

I mean, there was a stampede here. Hysterical. You know, I don't have that much influence with other women even if I was saying that! I don't think you'd all have to worry! What'd an alert go out on the male listserv? "ALERT; THERE'S A WOMAN CLAIMING BLOW JOBS ARE DEGRADING, ALL HANDS ON DECK!"
Yah... They were all riding my bad joke and running it into the ground. That happens when you're cool like me.

:medit:
 
i am curious, just how much do you know about sharia law?

if two people or groups agree to having a dispute decided under sharia law why not let them. such a situation may occur where all involved in a civil dispute agree to such an action because they do not understand u s of a law or do not agree with it

as for criminal cases, u s of a law needs to be used

There was a case where Sharia Law was used in the USA in a case of domestic abuse. The husband was cleared because Sharia Law permits hitting your wife. Did you know that? If you didn't, then obviously I know more about Sharia Law than you do.
 
Darla doesn't like speaking of such.
She said it leaves a bad taste in her mouth.

In that case perhaps I can I offer her the following foods she may suggest her partner eat/not eat.

(Excerpt) Bitter taste: coffee, alcohol, cigarettes, and marijuana (of course there are other sexual reasons to consider cutting out those drugs)

Sharp taste: red meat, greasy foods, dairy products, chocolate, asparagus, broccoli, spinach, garlic, onions.

Sweet taste: fruits (pineapple, mango, grapes, apple), parsley, celery, spearmint, peppermint, naturally fermented drinks, cinnamon, lemon, cardamom, wheatgrass (End)
http://sexuality.about.com/od/sexualhealthqanda/a/taste_of_semen.htm
 
In that case perhaps I can I offer her the following foods she may suggest her partner eat/not eat.

(Excerpt) Bitter taste: coffee, alcohol, cigarettes, and marijuana (of course there are other sexual reasons to consider cutting out those drugs)

Sharp taste: red meat, greasy foods, dairy products, chocolate, asparagus, broccoli, spinach, garlic, onions.

Sweet taste: fruits (pineapple, mango, grapes, apple), parsley, celery, spearmint, peppermint, naturally fermented drinks, cinnamon, lemon, cardamom, wheatgrass (End)
http://sexuality.about.com/od/sexualhealthqanda/a/taste_of_semen.htm

I'm told cutting out garlic and eating lots of pineapple helps a great deal. But give up coffee??
 
There was a case where Sharia Law was used in the USA in a case of domestic abuse. The husband was cleared because Sharia Law permits hitting your wife. Did you know that? If you didn't, then obviously I know more about Sharia Law than you do.

Be honest, the case was reversed on appeal because "the appellate court specifically found that the judge erred in allowing the defendant’s religious beliefs to excuse his criminal conduct."

In other words, US law trumped religious domestic law.
 
Be honest, the case was reversed on appeal because "the appellate court specifically found that the judge erred in allowing the defendant’s religious beliefs to excuse his criminal conduct."

In other words, US law trumped religious domestic law.

And when facts get the last word, as they have in this instance...the paranoid ramblings of Alias's delusional mind suddenly come to a screeching halt!
 
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