The abortion issue: one solution

Taichiliberal said:
So according to you, no anti-abortion group or individual has EVER stated publically that they don't want their tax dollars funding abortions?

According to you, abortions are performed only for the "sake of vanity and convenience"?

Accoridng to you, anyone who is pro-choice is "devoid of morality, and don't believe in personal responsibility or consequence"?

I just want to be clear what you are EXACTLY stating before we continue.
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Strawman, strawman, strawman, strawman, and... yes... Strawman!

No pro-lifer is "okay" with abortion on the condition their tax dollars don't fund it. NONE!
Abortions are performed DAILY for vanity and convenience sake.
Abortionists are basically immoral people who do not value human life.
'Pro-choice' is a view predicated on the denial of personal responsibility for consequence.

That's what has been stated by me, and not refuted by you! Clear?
 
Wonderful....then you should contact EVERY anti-abortion agency and tell them to instruct their members to adopt at least ONE child in America, that they should abandon the GOP position of trying to eliminate or severely reduce or make extremely difficult to get day care and welfare from those who are in need of it, and you should be an advocate of single payer or public option healthcare, as Potter and Peeno will tell you the current system isn't doing what you advocate for all the people....
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No, here is what we should do... We should summarily round up everyone in America who has such a disregard for human life as to advocate partial birth abortion, take them out into a field and put a bullet in the back of their head. This would be 100% MORE humane than how they advocate murdering the partially born, which involves driving a suction shunt into the brain from the base of the skull.
 
Dixie said:
Abortions are performed DAILY for vanity and convenience sake.
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You heard it here first! The teen mother who has her first pregnancy due to conservative abistence only policies is "vain" for no wanting her entire life to be ruined for her dumb quarterback boyfriend who will abandon her in two months and a clump of cells with no neurons.
 
Dixie said:
No, here is what we should do... We should summarily round up everyone in America who has such a disregard for human life as to advocate partial birth abortion, take them out into a field and put a bullet in the back of their head. This would be 100% MORE humane than how they advocate murdering the partially born, which involves driving a suction shunt into the brain from the base of the skull.
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We should round up everyone who supports the death penalty, take them out back, and put a bullet in their worthless head. Without such disgusting anti-humans dragging us down, we could have a generation of peaceful prosperity, unknown to the world beforehand. If only.

My dream is to drag all of the anti-humans out of the woodwarks, put in a policy that would bring them into rebellion, and then kill every one of your worthless husks. It would be the greatest day in humanity. But alas, I fear the anti-humans like you are too cowardly to bring about this justice.
 
Bittermark said:
You heard it here first! The teen mother who has her first pregnancy due to conservative abistence only policies is "vain" for no wanting her entire life to be ruined for her dumb quarterback boyfriend who will abandon her in two months and a clump of cells with no neurons.
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Seems to me that's it's quite unlikely her predicament was the result of following conservative "abstinence" policies. You do understand how pregnancy occurs, right?

As for her life being ruined... I had rather her life be ruined, than for her soul to be condemned to eternal damnation for taking someone's innocent life.

I don't care who you talk to, soldiers, cops, executioners... one thing they will all tell you, something fundamentally happens to you when you take the life of another human being. It changes who you are and how you see yourself, from that point forward. I don't think the young women currently being herded into abortion clinics by liberal pinheads, have the slightest idea of what this is like. I don't think anyone has prepared them for the guilt and blame they will carry for the rest of their lives, over what they did. I've known women who experienced this, who made the rash decision to have an abortion, then later had remorse for what they did. It often leads to lifelong depression, drug and alcohol abuse, and suicide. If they ever did a study on it, you would be shocked at how often that turns out to be the case. But this is largely ignored by "do-gooders" like you, who just want to keep murdering babies because you're sick and twisted, and don't care about morality.
 
Bittermark said:
We should round up everyone who supports the death penalty, take them out back, and put a bullet in their worthless head. Without such disgusting anti-humans dragging us down, we could have a generation of peaceful prosperity, unknown to the world beforehand. If only.

My dream is to drag all of the anti-humans out of the woodwarks, put in a policy that would bring them into rebellion, and then kill every one of your worthless husks. It would be the greatest day in humanity. But alas, I fear the anti-humans like you are too cowardly to bring about this justice.
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No, we should round YOU up, let disease-infested gorillas ass rape you for a few days, cover you in molasses and bury you in a fire ant bed for a few more days, before digging you up, beating the living daylights out of you, hang you by your balls in a burning house, and give you a razor blade! ...And we should sell tickets!
 
Dixie said:
It changes who you are and how you see yourself, from that point forward. I don't think the young women currently being herded into abortion clinics by liberal pinheads, have the slightest idea of what this is like. I don't think anyone has prepared them for the guilt and blame they will carry for the rest of their lives, over what they did. I've known women who experienced this, who made the rash decision to have an abortion, then later had remorse for what they did. It often leads to lifelong depression, drug and alcohol abuse, and suicide.
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It's probably not the case in places in which conservatives and religious organizations do not oppress women and tell them lies and how alive their fetus was. I think one religious leader and one conservative leader should die for every woman who commits suicide. Then you guys will know better than to murder these women.
 
Bittermark said:
It's probably not the case in places in which conservatives and religious organizations do not oppress women and tell them lies and how alive their fetus was. I think one religious leader and one conservative leader should die for every woman who commits suicide. Then you guys will know better than to murder these women.
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LMAO... What lies? That pregnancy is caused by having sex? A fetus is a living human being, we've had this debate before. If you want to pretend you are ignorant of biology, that is fine, just so we all understand you are ignorant and do not speak from a position of knowledge or authority on this matter. You should die 40 million times... once for every life that has been lost to your stupid immoral policy of infanticide. Unfortunately, we can only kill you once, so we need to really make it a good killing!
 
Bittermark said:
We should round up everyone who opposes the death penalty, take them out back, and put a bullet in their worthless head. Without such disgusting anti-humans dragging us down, we could have a generation of peaceful prosperity, unknown to the world beforehand. If only.

My dream is to drag all of the anti-humans out of the woodwarks, put in a policy that would bring them into rebellion, and then kill every one of your worthless husks. It would be the greatest day in humanity. But alas, I fear the anti-humans like you are too cowardly to bring about this justice.
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I recommend the public start with you. It just seems so logical that way...
 
Taichiliberal said:
Back to square one: my proposal does NOTHING to prevent you from advocating against abortion...it just removes an oft used talking point that anti-abortion folk trot out in their personal and moral reasons.
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your proposal does nothing to stop killing children and actually promotes and legitimizes it.......it makes you a promoter and facilitator of the unnecessary death of a human being for no other reason than that it's mother cannot be bothered to deliver it......
 
Bittermark said:
You heard it here first! The teen mother who has her first pregnancy due to conservative abistence only policies is "vain" for no wanting her entire life to be ruined for her dumb quarterback boyfriend who will abandon her in two months and a clump of cells with no neurons.
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are you so stupid that you actually believe a woman who delivers a child will be forced to raise that child to the age of eighteen?......are you completely unaware of the concept of adoption.......I see you've managed to delude yourself into thinking that what she is killing is merely a clump of cells with no neurons......be reminded that the aborted child is far more than that by the time her dumbfuck quarterback boyfriend has even told her he has no intention of marrying her but will drive her to the abortion clinic if she goes halves on the gas.......
 
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Taichiliberal said:
Once again, you leave out the parts of the response that YOU CANNOT LOGICALLY OR FACTUALLY DEFEND....and then you just repeat your original claims and assertions.

That not only makes you dishonest, but basically stupid, because all the reader has to do is click back to the post in question to uncover your folly.

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Complete bullshit on your part. You propose that I should be able to not pay for aspects of certain federal programs that I consider immoral, yet you reserve the right to selectively tell me what is immoral. Your argument fails due to illogical pretense.
 
I say we make a list of all people who are against abortion then ban abortion. When these unwanted children are born and your name comes up you get one.
 
I say we make a list of all the people who voted for Democrats. Then we tax them all to pay for their programs.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
So according to you, no anti-abortion group or individual has EVER stated publically that they don't want their tax dollars funding abortions?

According to you, abortions are performed only for the "sake of vanity and convenience"?

Accoridng to you, anyone who is pro-choice is "devoid of morality, and don't believe in personal responsibility or consequence"?

I just want to be clear what you are EXACTLY stating before we continue.
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Dixie said:
Strawman, strawman, strawman, strawman, and... yes... Strawman!

I'm only responding to what YOU previously posted. For you to yell "strawman" is essentially saying that your original statements are nonsense. Go back and READ what you wrote...if that's not what you meant, then you should think things through before you post.

No pro-lifer is "okay" with abortion on the condition their tax dollars don't fund it. NONE!

I never said they did, genius....READ what I wrote! YOU are stating that no pro-lifer has NEVER stated that they don't like their tax dollars sponsoring abortions...period. I'm asking you to own up to that statement. What you do here is a cowardly lie about my question. Grow the fuck up and debate honestly!

Abortions are performed DAILY for vanity and convenience sake.

Really? What's your proof? Was there an "exit poll" done at abortion clinics and doctor's office surgery? What are you basing this statement of yours on other than your personal supposition and conjecture?


Abortionists are basically immoral people who do not value human life.

Your personal opinion, which has NOTHING to do with my proposal, and has no basis in valid, researched fact.

'Pro-choice' is a view predicated on the denial of personal responsibility for consequence.

No, it's exactly what it says.... a choice....moral condemnation by members of society at large non-withstanding.

That's what has been stated by me, and not refuted by you! Clear?
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:palm: Again, you're personal vehemence has NOTHING to do with my proposal....which you do not honestly address, as I've logically demonstrated.
 
Wonderful....then you should contact EVERY anti-abortion agency and tell them to instruct their members to adopt at least ONE child in America, that they should abandon the GOP position of trying to eliminate or severely reduce or make extremely difficult to get day care and welfare from those who are in need of it, and you should be an advocate of single payer or public option healthcare, as Potter and Peeno will tell you the current system isn't doing what you advocate for all the people....
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Dixie said:
No, here is what we should do... We should summarily round up everyone in America who has such a disregard for human life as to advocate partial birth abortion, take them out into a field and put a bullet in the back of their head. This would be 100% MORE humane than how they advocate murdering the partially born, which involves driving a suction shunt into the brain from the base of the skull.
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:palm: Stop braying like an ass and do some honest research on the laws and actual number of "partial birth" abortions, and what has been done.

My previous point to the other poster is that before people get on their high horse about abortion, they should first work to help clean up the situation for all the foster kids already here, instead of fighting tooth and nail against any federal social service that is geared to help them....you should do some research as to the number of foster kids in the current system; how many were born of single moms, put into the system, etc.
 
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