Texas Teenager Mistakenly Deported to Columbia
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SmarterthanYou
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and when someone is arrested for a crime, police can hold that person until they can identify them. ICE didn't do that because they assumed she was an illegal from columbia. no big deal to most people.
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says the idiot who has NO other ideas or solutions.
pretty stupid of you to judge when you can't think of a single alternative.
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so they should have kept her locked up? btw...they didn't assume anything......she told them she was that person and maintained the lie even after deportation. she could have stopped the process when they started the process of sending her to columbia...
For those keeping score at home, Yurt thinks that ICE had no choice but to deport a 14 year-old American citizen who speaks no Spanish to Columbia and that I am an idiot for suggesting that ICE ought to have some procedures in place to make sure it doesn't happen. And I'm the idiot. Good Lord.
SmarterthanYou
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yes. and again, If I'm arrested and tell them my name is 'the most interesting man in the world', should they just accept my word or hold on to me until they identify me?
zappasguitar
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They asked the girl for her name and she provided one. They identified her as a Columbian national and she never denied their claims until she was released in Columbia.
If ICE had identified her as a Columbian national in the country illegally and then DIDN'T deport her, everyone who likes to scream about illegals in the country would bitch about how they WEREN'T doing their job and deporting her.
They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
SmarterthanYou
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identified her how? based on her word alone? THAT in itself is shitty investigation worthy of a reprimand.
ICE has their own detention centers for illegals they have yet to deport or identify. Unless there is someway they identified her OTHER than just her word, it's still shitty work by ICE.
you're doing one of two things here, either excusing them because it's your beloved federal government, or excusing them because it's your beloved OBAMA administration. I don't care which, ICE fucked it up here.
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says the idiot who can't think up a single alternative or solution. you're a whiner. there was no other way to identify her. even after they came back to her and asked if she was indeed this person from colubmia...she said yes. but according to you, they should have magically known she wasn't.
there was simply no other way to identify her. especially after she claimed to be that person from columbia.
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The Almighty
Thats what happens in a government run by liberals. They just deport people willy nilly. Obviously Obama gave the order to ship her lying ass to Columbia.
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In part... yes. Had she not lied about her name it wouldn't have been likely to happen now would it?
That said... it is obvious ICE is also at fault for not checking to see if she was who she stated. But when liberals run things, you get fuck ups like this.
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The Almighty
The standard liberal 'it's someone else's fault' and the 'you can't hold a person responsible for their own actions' lines of thought.
SHE was most certainly responsible for what occurred. You can make excuses for her all you want, but her responsibility in the matter is not going to change. YES, we all agree ICE should have done a better job and that ICE is also responsible. Quit making excuses for the girl... it is beyond pathetic.
Disillusioned
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Interesting question, if anyone knows the answer I'd like to hear it. If ICE is comparing her to somebody who is supposed to be in the country illegally, how are they going to check? Drivers liscence? Ya right, SSN? nope. Birth Certificate? As if. DNA? To match with what?
The thing about illegals is that they don't show up against any ID's. Because to get an ID you have to register and when you do you'd have been deported for being illegal. They have a name and possibly a face.
The thing about illegals is that they don't show up against any ID's. Because to get an ID you have to register and when you do you'd have been deported for being illegal. They have a name and possibly a face.
(CNN) -- A Dallas teen mistakenly deported to Colombia after she ran away from home in 2010 will be handed over to U.S. diplomatic officials Friday, authorities said.
Jakadrien Turner wound up deported to Colombia after U.S. authorities mistook the girl, who lacked identification, for a Colombian national.
In a statement Thursday, Colombia's foreign ministry said it planned to hand her over to diplomatic officials so she can be transported back home, but did not say how it will happen.
The U.S. Embassy in Bogota is working with Colombian authorities, but cannot provide additional details "due to privacy considerations," said a U.S. State Department official who asked to remain anonymous per department policy.
Family members are thrilled the 15-year-old would be returning home.
"It's a giant step. I'm relieved, but I won't be completely relieved until I get her in my arms again," her mother, Johnisa Turner, said. "A weight has definitely been lifted."
Grandmother Lorene Turner said U.S. Embassy officials called with the news that her granddaughter would be turned over to U.S. officials.
"When I heard those words I didn't hear nothing else. I flipped out. I can't wait," she said.
But the teen's family was still demanding to know why immigration authorities deported the teen -- a U.S. citizen with no knowledge of Spanish -- and why they simply took her at her word when she gave them a fake name.
The teen's family had been searching for her since she ran away in the fall of 2010. Her grandmother scoured Facebook looking for her friends' pages for any information.
"There's no words," her mother said. "It hasn't been easy at all."
The Colombian Institute for Family Welfare confirmed Thursday that Turner is in its custody, is pregnant and entered the country as an adult. The institute said Colombian authorities learned about the case a month ago.
U.S. teen mistakenly deported to Colombia
After she went missing, the family tracked her to Houston, where she worked at a DJ club under a different name. They tried to get help from authorities there, to no avail.
They later learned she was in Colombia, partying and smoking marijuana. They later learned from a detective that she was pregnant.
How she got to Colombia is a mystery to the family. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency maintains she was arrested in Houston for theft and told them she was an adult from Colombia.
The agency says authorities believed her story because she maintained her false identity throughout the process. They handed her over to an immigration judge, who ordered her removed from the country.
"At no time during these criminal proceedings was her identity determined to be false," the agency says.
It says criminal database searches and biometric verification revealed no information to invalidate her claims.
The family's attorney, Ray Jackson, says it doesn't make sense.
"They dropped the ball," he said.
He says the immigration agency took her fingerprints but failed to match them to the name she gave. The name matched a woman wanted by Interpol, Jackson says, so they "shipped her on through."
The agency says it is taking the allegations very seriously and is "fully and immediately investigating the matter in order to expeditiously determine the facts of the case."
Pictures of the teen in Colombia showed her sitting on men's laps smoking marijuana, her grandmother said. But she appeared to be reaching out for help, she said, listing on Facebook the names of everyone at parties, perhaps so she could be traced.
Jakadrien Turner wound up deported to Colombia after U.S. authorities mistook the girl, who lacked identification, for a Colombian national.
In a statement Thursday, Colombia's foreign ministry said it planned to hand her over to diplomatic officials so she can be transported back home, but did not say how it will happen.
The U.S. Embassy in Bogota is working with Colombian authorities, but cannot provide additional details "due to privacy considerations," said a U.S. State Department official who asked to remain anonymous per department policy.
Family members are thrilled the 15-year-old would be returning home.
"It's a giant step. I'm relieved, but I won't be completely relieved until I get her in my arms again," her mother, Johnisa Turner, said. "A weight has definitely been lifted."
Grandmother Lorene Turner said U.S. Embassy officials called with the news that her granddaughter would be turned over to U.S. officials.
"When I heard those words I didn't hear nothing else. I flipped out. I can't wait," she said.
But the teen's family was still demanding to know why immigration authorities deported the teen -- a U.S. citizen with no knowledge of Spanish -- and why they simply took her at her word when she gave them a fake name.
The teen's family had been searching for her since she ran away in the fall of 2010. Her grandmother scoured Facebook looking for her friends' pages for any information.
"There's no words," her mother said. "It hasn't been easy at all."
The Colombian Institute for Family Welfare confirmed Thursday that Turner is in its custody, is pregnant and entered the country as an adult. The institute said Colombian authorities learned about the case a month ago.
U.S. teen mistakenly deported to Colombia
After she went missing, the family tracked her to Houston, where she worked at a DJ club under a different name. They tried to get help from authorities there, to no avail.
They later learned she was in Colombia, partying and smoking marijuana. They later learned from a detective that she was pregnant.
How she got to Colombia is a mystery to the family. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency maintains she was arrested in Houston for theft and told them she was an adult from Colombia.
The agency says authorities believed her story because she maintained her false identity throughout the process. They handed her over to an immigration judge, who ordered her removed from the country.
"At no time during these criminal proceedings was her identity determined to be false," the agency says.
It says criminal database searches and biometric verification revealed no information to invalidate her claims.
The family's attorney, Ray Jackson, says it doesn't make sense.
"They dropped the ball," he said.
He says the immigration agency took her fingerprints but failed to match them to the name she gave. The name matched a woman wanted by Interpol, Jackson says, so they "shipped her on through."
The agency says it is taking the allegations very seriously and is "fully and immediately investigating the matter in order to expeditiously determine the facts of the case."
Pictures of the teen in Colombia showed her sitting on men's laps smoking marijuana, her grandmother said. But she appeared to be reaching out for help, she said, listing on Facebook the names of everyone at parties, perhaps so she could be traced.
PostmodernProphet
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I will admit, I was surprised they deported her at all.......I suspect the controlling factor was the fact she was wanted in Colombia......deporting her was easier than extradition.......I wonder if the Colombians got suspicious when they found she only spoke English?......
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An ICE official said the teen claimed to be Cortez throughout the criminal proceedings in Houston and the ensuing deportation process, in which an immigration judge ultimately ordered her back to Colombia.
Standard procedure before any deportation is to coordinate with the other country in order to establish that person is from there, the ICE official said.
The ICE official, speaking on condition of anonymity due to not being authorized to discuss additional details of the case, said the teenager was interviewed by a representative from the Colombian consulate and that country's government issued her a travel document to enter Colombia.
Jakadrien was issued travel documents at the request of U.S. officials using information they provided, the Colombian Ministry of Foreign Affairs said. Colombian officials are investigating what kind of verification was conducted by its Houston consulate to issue the temporary passport.
The girl was given Colombian citizenship upon arriving in that country, the ICE official said.
According to the Colombian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the girl was enrolled in the country's "Welcome Home" program after she arrived there. She was given shelter, psychological assistance and a job at a call center, a statement from the agency said.
"If she looked like an adult, and she told them she was a 21-year-old Colombian citizen, and she didn't show up in their databases, this was inevitable," said Albert Armendariz, an immigration attorney from El Paso.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/0...test=latestnews?test=latestnews#ixzz1inKBlZrg
Standard procedure before any deportation is to coordinate with the other country in order to establish that person is from there, the ICE official said.
The ICE official, speaking on condition of anonymity due to not being authorized to discuss additional details of the case, said the teenager was interviewed by a representative from the Colombian consulate and that country's government issued her a travel document to enter Colombia.
Jakadrien was issued travel documents at the request of U.S. officials using information they provided, the Colombian Ministry of Foreign Affairs said. Colombian officials are investigating what kind of verification was conducted by its Houston consulate to issue the temporary passport.
The girl was given Colombian citizenship upon arriving in that country, the ICE official said.
According to the Colombian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the girl was enrolled in the country's "Welcome Home" program after she arrived there. She was given shelter, psychological assistance and a job at a call center, a statement from the agency said.
"If she looked like an adult, and she told them she was a 21-year-old Colombian citizen, and she didn't show up in their databases, this was inevitable," said Albert Armendariz, an immigration attorney from El Paso.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/0...test=latestnews?test=latestnews#ixzz1inKBlZrg