Texans push for constitutional carry

[NiftyNiblick]

"So after a winter storm crippled the entire state of Texas for almost two weeks, killing over 100 people, 29M without power, fossil fuels frozen in transit, all while in the midst of the worst pandemic in 100 years, Texas decides its priority is....guns."


It's equally insane/idiotic simultaneously....
but also totally true.

All we can do is shake our heads and say WTF?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You don't fucking live in Georgia, so you don't know shit about the government here.

GA is a gerrymandered state...the State Legislature is unbalanced because that gerrymandering.

For example, in 2020 in the State House, Democrats got 49% of the vote, but only walked away with 43% of the seats. Conservatives got 51% of the vote, but walked away with 57% of the seats.

That's gerrymandering and not defensible.

TX is a gerry mandered fucked up state. dont' tell me I don't fucking understand, you imbecile

 

[Flash]

Gerrymandering is yet another consequence of the 10th Amendment.
Who was the last person you've heard screaming about "states' rights" while trying to advocate for something good?

States' rights gave us many progressive policies long before the federal government--paid lawyers for those accused of crimes, integrated schools and public accommodations, legalization of marijuana, euthanasia for terminally ill, civil contracts, gay marriage, abortion.....

 

[NiftyNiblick]

States' rights gave us many progressive policies long before the federal government--paid lawyers for those accused of crimes, integrated schools and public accommodations, legalization of marijuana, euthanasia for terminally ill, civil contracts, gay marriage, abortion.....

True. Also Jim Crow/segregation, a limitless supply of assault weapons everywhere, and now voter suppression which will impact the entire nation, not just one state.

 

[Flash]

True. Also Jim Crow/segregation, a limitless supply of assault weapons everywhere, and now voter suppression which will impact the entire nation, not just one state.

States' rights allows both the good and the bad depending on one's opinion. None of the progressive policies occurred under federal leadership. Federal courts cite the trends among the states when ruling on some of these issues.

 

[Legion]

None of the progressive policies occurred under federal leadership.

The Civil Rights Acts have entered the chat.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

so you're not stupid, you're just naive as fuck


strawman



laws are to punish those who do not conform to them. not to provide a base of morality.

the law is no substitute for morality, now or then.

And who told you this? Or did you just make it up?

So you are saying laws should be made for immoral purposes- LIKE THE DID IN GEORGIA YESTERDAY?

It sounds as if you have no desire for morality-and you seem to be promoting immorality by what you just commented!

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Beto is aa moron who has ZERO chances for a statewide office in Texas.

He is not a moron- just because he wants to end sales of AR-15's that shot up a store full of innocent people from his community.

I think he has good intentions and he means well. But, he is not going to be able to remove AR-15's from people that own them, unless they can be proven mentally ill or they own them illegally for reasons already defined by law.

That is where we butte heads. But he is entitled to his opinion on the matter- I just don't totally agree with it.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I have mixed feelings about this. I like the state weeding out some people who should not be carring. But I see carrying a weapon to defend yourself as a right not a privilege As it is virtually everyone in Texas has a right to carry a gun in their car now.

That's done when purchasing or possessing a firearm. Note the quote in the OP: "If we’re legally allowed to carry it, it’s not the government’s right to delegate if we can or not."

The screening is done with a legal right to possess a firearm. Obviously gangsters from New Jersey and gangbangers from Chicago or Miami already carry illegally.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

States' rights gave us many progressive policies long before the federal government--paid lawyers for those accused of crimes, integrated schools and public accommodations, legalization of marijuana, euthanasia for terminally ill, civil contracts, gay marriage, abortion.....

Agreed. Several States allowed women the right to vote before it became an Amendment: https://www.nps.gov/subjects/womenshistory/19th-amendment-by-state.htm

Several states and territories recognized women's suffrage rights before 1920, including Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Idaho, Washington, California, Oregon, Montana, Arizona, Kansas, Alaska, Illinois, North Dakota, Indiana, Nebraska, Michigan, Arkansas, New York, South Dakota, and Oklahoma.

 

[Matt Dillon]

So after a winter storm crippled the entire state of Texas for almost two weeks, killing over 100 people, 29M without power, fossil fuels frozen in transit, all while in the midst of the worst pandemic in 100 years, Texas decides its priority is....guns.

Abbott is so fucking toast next year if Beto runs...

Beto is a fucking lamer from the late 90s. Fuck that douchewad.

Do you even live in Texas?

 

[Matt Dillon]

He is not a moron- just because he wants to end sales of AR-15's that shot up a store full of innocent people from his community.

I think he has good intentions and he means well. But, he is not going to be able to remove AR-15's from people that own them, unless they can be proven mentally ill or they own them illegally for reasons already defined by law.

That is where we butte heads. But he is entitled to his opinion on the matter- I just don't totally agree with it.

Beto is a lamer moron. He never even knew how to phreak n shit. Seriously.

Manson could eat Beto alive and spit out his bones, and Manson respected me.

Beto couldn't even go into that room without instant death..LOL!

Don't get get me wrong, I met the instant death a couple times, then they figured out I wasn't average.

Afterwhich they tolerated me.

CDC was AOL stuff. They were the lamers whereas I know who the elite people were.

 

[Nordberg]

DO you think everyone carrying a gun, or would like to carry a gun, are all responsible people, trained in firearm safety?

NO! So, it is OK with you to allow people to carry guns that may be criminal, dangerous, or mentally ill?

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!

Either you care about PUBLIC safety or you don't!

The gun-loving rightys in this board will scare you when you remember they have arsenals. What more proof did you need to believe in registration and ending ARs. They are belligerent and confrontational. They are examples of why weapon buyers should get as much training as you get to obtain a driver's license. Classes, testing, renewal.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

The gun-loving rightys in this board will scare you when you remember they have arsenals. What more proof did you need to believe in registration and ending ARs. They are belligerent and confrontational. They are examples of why weapon buyers should get as much training as you get to obtain a driver's license. Classes, testing, renewal.

Ive always said- WE DON'T NEED GUNS IN EVERY CLASSROOM- But we do need a classroom in every gun store!

IT SHOULD NEVER HE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET A DRIVERS LICENSE than it is to buy an AR-15!

HOW STUPID IS THAT?

 

[NiftyNiblick]

We're never going to end American gun violence.
We're never going to mitigate it without reasonable solutions,
and neither the left not the right are proposing them.


Let's learn to accept America as a 24/7 shooting gallery,
because we'll never change it,
but let's start shooting the right people for a change.

Do I have to list names?

 

[reagansghost]

Darwin's Law strikes again

We estimate 430 unintentional firearm fatalities in the United States per year (2005-2015). The rate is highest for older children to young adults, ages 10 to 29, and the vast majority of the victims are male. Common circumstances include playing with the gun (28.3% of incidents), thinking the gun was unloaded (17.2%), and hunting (13.8%). The victim is suspected to have consumed alcohol in nearly a quarter of the deaths and in 46.8% of deaths among those aged 20–29.

https://injepijournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40621-019-0220-0

 

[reagansghost]

A toddler found a handgun and fatally shot himself. His case is one of at least 73 accidental child deaths involving a gun in 2018

Nick Penzenstadler

USA TODAY


Children were killed more than once a week last year under similarly tragic circumstances – a loaded gun and an adult's attention lapse – presenting prosecutors with a vexing question: Who is to blame, and how should that person be punished?

At least 73 juveniles under age 12 were killed last year, roughly the same pace as the previous five years. What happened next varied widely.

A 2017 USA TODAY and Associated Press investigation of the 152 deaths from 2014 to 2016 found about half ended in a criminal charge, usually of adults who police said should have watched children more closely or secured their guns more carefully.

 

[reagansghost]

Last year, toddlers (children one, two, or three years of age) were shooting people, either themselves or others, at a rate of about one per week. The Washington Post reports that the pace has since picked up. In the first five months of 2016, there have been at least 23 reported shootings by toddlers, as compared to 18 in the same time period last year.

https://fortune.com/2016/05/02/toddler-guns/

 

[ExpressLane]

A toddler found a handgun and fatally shot himself. His case is one of at least 73 accidental child deaths involving a gun in 2018

Nick Penzenstadler

USA TODAY


Children were killed more than once a week last year under similarly tragic circumstances – a loaded gun and an adult's attention lapse – presenting prosecutors with a vexing question: Who is to blame, and how should that person be punished?

At least 73 juveniles under age 12 were killed last year, roughly the same pace as the previous five years. What happened next varied widely.

A 2017 USA TODAY and Associated Press investigation of the 152 deaths from 2014 to 2016 found about half ended in a criminal charge, usually of adults who police said should have watched children more closely or secured their guns more carefully.

There were about 800 childhood drownings in the US. Perhaps we should eliminate pools.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

The gun-loving rightys in this board will scare you when you remember they have arsenals. What more proof did you need to believe in registration and ending ARs. They are belligerent and confrontational. They are examples of why weapon buyers should get as much training as you get to obtain a driver's license. Classes, testing, renewal.

isn't it strange how most people can get irate when you come after their property and rights?????

note this, we will not comply. if you come after us, we will eventually kill all you send. then you will have nobody left to protect you. what will you do then?