Ted Cruz Tells Reporters "I'm a Christian First, American Second"
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Kaz is such a fag.
Leonthecat
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christiefan915
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You just can't keep yourself from butting into others' discussions and instigating.
So your interpretation of that means I was say all Founding Father were Christian...???
If so, then learn to read and practice reading comprehension.....mocking them does certainly not equate with saying they were all Christians.....if I meant to say that, I would have
said that.....so first...you have to know the meaning of mock
mock
mäk/
verb
3rd person present: mocks
1.
tease or laugh at in a scornful or contemptuous manner.
You think your competitions are clear and concise, but they are not, please explain to me what you would be mocking, yes I know the definition of mocking, the Founders and most President for then, if by your sentence it wasn't them putting their Christianity before their government as Cruz was criticized for doing.
When you sober up you can try that post again....
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I didn't imply or say that most Presidents or the Founding Fathers were ALL Christians or they ever stated that God came before their country....You can label some only Deists, but if they
EVER mentioned the Bible in any of their writings, I say you can glean from that that they were Christians....and imo, mocking Cruz for putting his Christian values above all, is mocking
all these great men.....
I won't waste any more time digging up quotes from the Founding Fathers or previous presidents....you can do that if thats what floats your boat.
Patrick Henry, American Patriot--- Obviously a Christian
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here."
- Patrick Henry
"This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed."
- Patrick Henry (Last Will and Testament)
Frederick Douglass, Abolitionist, Rochesterian---Christian
"One and God make a majority."
"I love the religion of Christianity - which cometh from above - which is a pure, peaceable, gentle, easy to be entreated, full of good fruits, and without hypocrisy."
- Frederick Douglass
"Right is of no sex, Truth is of no color, God is the Father of us all, and we are all Brethren."
"The man who is right is a majority. We, who have God and conscience on our side, have a majority against the universe."
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th U.S. President—Do they mean another Bible besides the Christian Bible
"A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education."
- Theodore Roosevelt.....
"It is necessary for the welfare of the nation that men's lives be based on the principles of the Bible. No man, educated or uneducated, can afford to be ignorant of the Bible."
Ben Franklin, Founding Father, American Inventor
"I therefore beg leave to move that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessing on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning..."
- Ben Franklin
"A Bible and a newspaper in every house, a good school in every district; all studied and appreciated as they merit; are the principal support of virtue, morality, and civil liberty."
George Washington Carver, Botanist, Inventor
'The secret of my success? It is simple. It is found in the Bible', "In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy paths."
Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President, Founding Father ." At the very least, a Believer in God... a Diest...But not a Christian.
"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever."
"I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man....I would 'every form of tyranny" includes that which comes from a gov. and/country
- Thomas Jefferson (inscribed around the inside of the dome of the Jefferson Memorial in Washington)
Susan B. Anthony, Women's Rights Activist…
"I shall earnestly and persistently continue to urge all women to the practical recognition of the old Revolutionary maxim. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God."
Alexander Hamilton, Founding Father....Christian
"I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man."
"For my own part, I sincerely esteem it [the Constitution] a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests."
George Washington, 1st U.S. President
"The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained."
Abraham Lincoln, 16th U.S. President
"It behooves us then to humble ourselves before the offended Power to confess our national sins and to pray for clemency and forgiveness..."
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"I am profitably engaged in reading the Bible. Take all of this Book upon reason that you can, and the balance by faith, and you will live and die a better man."
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"Intelligence, patriotism, Christianity, and a firm reliance on Him, who has never yet forsaken this favored land, are still competent to adjust, in the best way, all our present difficulty."
Calvin Coolidge, 30th U.S. President
"The foundations of our society and our government rest so much on the teachings of the Bible that it would be difficult to support them if faith in these teachings would cease to be practically universal in our country."
Samuel Adams, American Patriot
"We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let His kingdom come."
- Samuel Adams, 1776 (at the signing of the Declaration of Independence)
John Adams and John Hancock, Founding Fathers
"We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus!"
George Mason, Father of the United States Bill of Rights
"The laws of nature are the laws of God, whose authority can be superseded by no power on earth."
Ronald Reagan, 40th U.S. President
"Without God there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience...without God there is a coarsening of the society; without God democracy will not and cannot long endure...If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation gone under."
"Government should uphold--and not undermine--those institutions which are custodians of the very values upon which civilization is founded: religion, education and, above all, family."
Grover Cleveland, 24th U.S. President
"All must admit that the reception of the teachings of Christ results in the purest patriotism, in the most scrupulous fidelity to public trust, and in the best type of citizenship."
- Grover Cleveland
John F. Kennedy, 35th U.S. President
"The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God."
- John F. Kennedy---Christian
John Quincy Adams, 6th U.S. President
"It is no slight testimonial, both to the merit and worth of Christianity, that in all ages since its promulgation the great mass of those who have risen to eminence by their profound wisdom and integrity have recognized and reverenced Jesus of Nazareth as the Son of the living God."
Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration of Independence
"I do not believe that the Constitution was the offspring of inspiration, but I am as satisfied that it is as much the work of a Divine Providence as any of the miracles recorded in the Old and New Testament."
- Benjamin Rush
"The Gospel of Jesus Christ prescribes the wisest rules for just conduct in every situation of life. Happy they who are enabled to obey them in all situations!...My only hope of salvation is in the infinite transcendent love of God manifested to the world by the death of His Son upon the Cross. Nothing but His blood will wash away my sins."
- Benjamin Rush
"The only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government is the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible."
- Benjamin Rush
"The great enemy of the salvation of man, in my opinion, never invented a more effective means of limiting Christianity from the world than by persuading mankind that it was improper to read the Bible at schools."
- Benjamin Rush
"Christianity is the only true and perfect religion; and… in proportion as mankind adopt its principles and obey its precepts, they will be wise and happy."
- Benjamin Rush
"The Bible contains more knowledge necessary to man in his present state than any other book in the world."
- Benjamin Rush
"The Bible, when not read in schools, is seldom read in any subsequent period of life…The Bible…should be read in our schools in preference to all other books because it contains the greatest portion of that kind of knowledge which is calculated to produce private and public happiness."
- Benjamin Rush
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Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
I don't think I'm the one that needs to sober up. I have to ask Leon to translate this for me.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Especially this one: "and imo, mocking Cruz for putting his Christian values above all, is mocking all these great men....."
Cons use this a lot, that if you criticize one you're criticizing all.
I figured it was a little above your pay grade.....incidentally....about Thomas Jefferson....
T. Jefferson referring to the Christian Bible...
Also referring to the 1804 version, Jefferson wrote, "A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."[31]
Jefferson's claim to be a Christian was made in response to those who accused him of being otherwise, due to his unorthodox view of the Bible and conception of Christ. Recognizing his rather unique views, Jefferson stated in a letter (1819) to Ezra Stiles Ely, "You say you are a Calvinist. I am not. I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible
So maybe we can put to rest that false claim that Jefferson was a deist and not a Christian in his own mind.
T. Jefferson referring to the Christian Bible...
Also referring to the 1804 version, Jefferson wrote, "A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."[31]
Jefferson's claim to be a Christian was made in response to those who accused him of being otherwise, due to his unorthodox view of the Bible and conception of Christ. Recognizing his rather unique views, Jefferson stated in a letter (1819) to Ezra Stiles Ely, "You say you are a Calvinist. I am not. I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible
So maybe we can put to rest that false claim that Jefferson was a deist and not a Christian in his own mind.
HA....I see that just about any gov. from any nation could make your 'Christian" values disappear in a microsecond....thats how deeply you hold them....
If we passed a law in the US that everyone will now practice Buddhism starting tomorrow, you would fold immediately....
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christiefan915
Catalyst
From your link.
"Jefferson wrote that “Jesus did not mean to impose himself on mankind as the son of God.” He called the writers of the New Testament “ignorant, unlettered men” who produced “superstitions, fanaticisms, and fabrications.” He called the Apostle Paul the “first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus.” He dismissed the concept of the Trinity as “mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.” He believed that the clergy used religion as a “mere contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves” and that “in every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty.” And he wrote in a letter to John Adams that “the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.”
christiefan915
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What does this have to do with mockery?
Wonder why he left those parts out?
Because they are not really relevant....how many different versions of Christianity are practiced just in this country....how many deny the trinity ?....interpret the words of the Bible in
different ways......
Jefferson, recognizing his rather unique views, stated in a letter (1819) to Ezra Stiles Ely, "You say you are a Calvinist. I am not. I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know.
He considered himself a Christian because he was a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."....his words, not mine....but he didn't seem to believe in he divinity of Christ.....
a sect by himself.........if thats is what it meant to Jefferson to be a Christian, so be it.....man can define himself, by himself.
He seems to believe being a Christian was to follow Christs teachings...maybe hes on the something.......I won't judge him....or try to label him differently.
Guess you would call hiim a Mormon today...
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Because Cruz puts his Christian values first, you criticize him, mock him....when
Your values, beliefs and moral code is who you are....they always come first, it can be no other way....
And,,,,,this is getting tedious and boring....you win....
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
Sorry Rana, it's all gobbledygook to me too.