Tariff Man is back, and American consumers will pay for it

It's difficult not to when similar products are no longer made in America.
my point was if tariffs are supposedly hitting consumers -why are we buying more and more Chinese products record numbers?

The answer: because WAGES are going up and GOOD JOBS like manufacturing are coming back big time
You can see it in the consumer confidence numbers as well
 
So I'll ask again...why isn't trump setting aside billions of dollars for factories to begin manufacturing appliances, etc?

What an outstanding question. For some reason the fictitious wall-that-Mexico-will-pay-for has priority. Besides, wouldn't that be socialism? We can't have that in this country, you know.
 
What an outstanding question. For some reason the fictitious wall-that-Mexico-will-pay-for has priority. Besides, wouldn't that be socialism? We can't have that in this country, you know.
ALTHEA is an idiot -WTF does that even mean?
setting aside billions of dollars for factories to begin manufacturing appliances, etc
manufacturing jobs have been coming back 500k under Trump, while Obama had a net loss of about 200k
 
So I'll ask again...why isn't trump setting aside billions of dollars for factories to begin manufacturing appliances, etc?

Let me guess: He still thinks his super genius plan will work, & he will con Ping & all of China into great deals & make him the best & loved ever after, the end!!


:cheer: did I win?? :cheer:
 
Let me guess: He still thinks his super genius plan will work, & he will con Ping & all of China into great deals & make him the best & loved ever after, the end!!


:cheer: did I win?? :cheer:
That's just it. The only reason for tariffs, is to level the playing field. If we're not going to have a competing product at a competing price, what is the end game?
 
my point was if tariffs are supposedly hitting consumers -why are we buying more and more Chinese products record numbers?

The answer: because WAGES are going up and GOOD JOBS like manufacturing are coming back big time
You can see it in the consumer confidence numbers as well
We don't here enough about those great manufacturing jobs that trump created.

Care to boast a bit??
 
What an outstanding question. For some reason the fictitious wall-that-Mexico-will-pay-for has priority. Besides, wouldn't that be socialism? We can't have that in this country, you know.
He stole money from veterans' retirement fund for the wall. He found tens of billions for soy farmers. Not one peep about manufacturing in America. I wonder why?

(rhetorical question advisory)
 
We don't here enough about those great manufacturing jobs that trump created.

Care to boast a bit??
LMAO. This should be good.

The reason people are buying more and more Chinese crap, is because everything is made in China.

Duh. When trump gives consumers an alternative, they will stop buying Chinese.
 
This is a generational thing to me. Most of the posters on this board are Boomers. Boomers grew up in a time when some/many people finished school and went to work in a factory. That time has basically passed but for older folks I'm sure it's hard to let go of. With globalization and global supply chains we will not return to 50+ plus years ago when everything was fully Made In America. (And to my understanding many of the manufacturing jobs of today require a high level of education.) It's a very different world.
 
LMAO. This should be good.

The reason people are buying more and more Chinese crap, is because everything is made in China.

Duh. When trump gives consumers an alternative, they will stop buying Chinese.

I try to avoid buying from CHina, even if it costs more but it is almost impossible in many cases & impossible in many more..

trump doesn't care, the taxes coming in cover the tax cuts he gave to himself & the super rich.........
 
This is a generational thing to me. Most of the posters on this board are Boomers. Boomers grew up in a time when some/many people finished school and went to work in a factory. That time has basically passed but for older folks I'm sure it's hard to let go of. With globalization and global supply chains we will not return to 50+ plus years ago when everything was fully Made In America. (And to my understanding many of the manufacturing jobs of today require a high level of education.) It's a very different world.

Are there 100's of thousands of items made exclusively or almost exclusively in CHina??

Do they have a goal to control certain markets, simply allowing them to dictate price, availability & distribution.............

If nothing is made here, the country is going to be very, very vulnerable...
 
New York (CNN Business)The Tariff Man is back. President Donald Trump's newly proposed tariffs on China would be particularly bad news for US consumers.
Investors sold off well-known retail and tech stocks in response, because they would get hit hardest by the additional tariffs.

"Tariffs are taxes on American consumers," said Rick Helfenbein, president and CEO of the American Apparel & Footwear Association. "The president's decision to proceed with adding these additional costs for hard-working American families is truly shocking."


Trump tweeted Thursday that he's proposing an additional 10% tariff on $300 billion's worth of Chinese-made products entering the United States. That includes things like smartphones, toys, footwear and many other consumer goods.

"American families shouldn't be a pawn in this trade war," said Hun Quach, vice president of international trade for the Retail Industry Leaders Association. "Today's announcement only moves us closer to consumers bearing the brunt of the pain."​


The National Retail Federation said it is disappointed the administration is doubling down on tarrifs.
"These additional tariffs will only threaten US jobs and raise costs for American families on everyday goods," said David French, senior vice president for government relations at the NRF. "The tariffs imposed over the past year haven't worked, and there's no evidence another tax increase on American businesses and consumers will yield new results."​

Investors weren't happy either. Shares of Best Buy (BBY) plunged more than 10%. Nike (NKE) was down 3%. Hasbro (HAS) fell 5% while rival toymaker Mattel (MAT) was down 7%. Apple (AAPL) fell about 2.5% while Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba (BABA) was down more than 4%.
And the SPDR S&P Retail ETF (XRT), which counts Dillard's (DDS), Abercrombie & Fitch (ANF), Guess? (GES), L Brands (LB) and Kohl's (KSS) among its top 10 holdings, lost about 3%. Target (TGT) was down nearly 5%.

"Uncertainty will dampen business investment and trade flows," said Elena Duggar, Moody's associate managing director.

She said American consumers will pay higher prices for everyday items, such as electronics, clothing, footware and toys, because of the tariffs.
Semiconductor stocks, which have a big presence in China, also plunged due to worries that China could retaliate with further tariffs against the US tech industry.

The Philadelphia Semiconductor Index (SOX) fell 2%, led by drops in Intel (INTC), AMD (AMD), Nvidia (NVDA), Qualcomm (QCOM) and Broadcom (AVGO).
That led to a dramatic turnaround on Wall Street Thursday, with the Dow swinging from a 300-point gain earlier in the day to a more than 250-point loss.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/01/inve...:+rss/cnn_topstories+(RSS:+CNN+-+Top+Stories)

The rubes will be paying more at walmart for their xmas
 
I suggest you let Trump work his trade,
business is what he does, if he thinks this method will work then it probably will.

he approaches nothing in business without doing his homework, being three steps ahead of your adversary is what he does best.

watch and learn, history books will document his brilliance
 
This is a generational thing to me. Most of the posters on this board are Boomers. Boomers grew up in a time when some/many people finished school and went to work in a factory. That time has basically passed but for older folks I'm sure it's hard to let go of. With globalization and global supply chains we will not return to 50+ plus years ago when everything was fully Made In America. (And to my understanding many of the manufacturing jobs of today require a high level of education.) It's a very different world.
manufacturing engineering jobs do require advanced degrees,but not for fabricators and assemblers.
There on the job training is really what is needed
 
We don't here enough about those great manufacturing jobs that trump created.
Care to boast a bit??
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do you mean what types? that's difficult to find id have to search each sector.

But Boeing's 737 problems and standing around waiting for Pelosi to deign to vote on NAFTA 2 passage
will bring more jobs.

For now the figure i have is 499k manufacturing ( assemblers/ fabricators/craft) created by Trump -awesome
 
Xi blinked. His little stunt is over already. :awesome:

You are very naive, to put it nicely..........

He can drop it below 7 in the blink of an eye...

Nothing has changed for your orange god though... He is still playing his only card left more taxes on Americans.

Kim is still firing missiles & mexico still didn't pay for the wall......

While you think it's over, this is merely the beginning of the war.......... It will get worse, probably a lot worse........

You can blink that to the bank....:wink2:
 
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