That's because idiots like you want to give those refusing to work more for doing nothing. There's an easy solution. Offer those jobs to the current freeloaders that live on the dole and when they refuse, stop their handouts and let their lazy asses starve to death.
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That's because idiots like you want to give those refusing to work more for doing nothing. There's an easy solution. Offer those jobs to the current freeloaders that live on the dole and when they refuse, stop their handouts and let their lazy asses starve to death.
climate+equality
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Regular people have workable lives.
Noted that Teflon Don celebrates teen suicide.
Trump tariffs are rapidly separating people from their land.
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...said the elitist.
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Was it me?
derrrrrr
evince
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so nobody hated the poor before 1996?
where in that post did you see me say that you fucking divertatbot ass smear
you said people hate the poor because of fox news. but fox news has only been around for 20sih years.
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Are you talking about Real Whig Ideology or Middle America?
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David Brooks, the New York Times columnist, has a new op-ed about the rise in teenage suicide rates. Being a reactionary, he naturally looks for something newfangled to blame, and decides it's attributable to technology -- online trolling, specifically. I'm not convinced.
For starters, take a look at suicide rates by age:
Rates are lowest among the young, and they've been rising for every age demographic, including the elderly block we'd expect to be least impacted by cyber-bullying. And while the rise of social media has been a global phenomenon, there hasn't been a rise in suicide in all of the tech-savvy nations, as we'd expect if cyber-bullying were a big driver:
Things have actually been getting better in Germany, Sweden, and France, for example.
Also, if you check rates by state, you'll see there are huge variations among the states, and those with the biggest problem are definitely not the ones with the highest Internet usage or Facebook penetration:
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/population-health/us-states-ranked-by-suicide-rate.html
https://www.internetworldstats.com/stats26.htm
The least suicidal states, for example, are NJ, NY, MA, MD, CT, CA, IL, RI, DE, and HI. In terms of Facebook penetration, they rank 7th, 19th, 6th, 25th, 32nd, 15th, 2nd, 3rd, 50th, and 13th. So, eight out of ten have unusually high Facebook engagement. If cyber-bullying were a major driver of rates, we'd expect most of those states to have unusually serious problems with suicide. But there just doesn't seem to be any meaningful positive correlation between social media/Internet usage and suicide, at the state level. If anything, the correlation seems to go the opposite way, with the less "online" states having more suicide problems.
So, I just don't see data to back Brooks's view. However, if you look at the data, something else does stick out. Of the ten least suicidal states, every single one voted for Hillary Clinton. At the other end of the spectrum, you have MT, AK, WY, NM, UT, NV, ID, OK, CO, SD, and WV -- seven out of ten of which went for Trump. I think that rather than looking to blame technology (or other pet arguments Brooks tends to reach for, like blaming a move away from traditional religion for society's ills), we'd do well to think about what it is about conservative societies that makes people suicidally depressed (or, if you prefer, what it is about liberal societies that makes them less so). Possibly it could have to do with economic opportunities, mental health support, or just the tone of the culture. Urbanization might also be a factor -- e.g., the boredom and inactivity of rural life contributing to substance abuse and obesity, which in turn contribute to depression and suicide.
I love that David Brooks is a reactionary. I mean if you don't vote Democratic you have to be either a reactionary, racist or both right Oneui?
And yes, suicide is all about how a state voted for President in 2016. Because nothing matters prior right? Nor do how people vote on a state or local level play a role? It's simply the 2016 Presidential election.
And opportunity is in urban areas. What are some of the fastest growing cities in the country; Dallas, Houston, Austin, Nashville, Charlotte. All southern areas and generally red states. If hapiness and opportunity is simply living in a blue state why so much movement to their areas? Why has California continually lost population within the U.S.?
If urban area is all happiness why is San Francisco, where I live, and L.A. where I went to school and also lived, home to either rich or poor and almost no in between? Why do have such huge inequality if we vote the correct way? Why are there so many homeless on our shit and piss stained streets? Why do we have the highest poverty rate in the country? I mean if all that matters is voting Democratic we do it on a national, state and local level.
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USFREEDOM911
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You seem to be suggesting that if they had pills, a rope, a knife, poison, etc. also at hand, that they wouldn't follow through.
USFREEDOM911
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My take on the suicide rate is this:
At one time and not that long ago, people tended to have family members fairly close to where they were living and I can only speak from my experiences; but family looked after family.
With so many having a desire to break out on their own, families now tend to be separated by greater and greater distances.
With family close, there was normally someone to confide in and seek emotional support from and not having to worry about being seen as weak or worthless.
Now with the separation; maybe some people are finding that they don't have a release valve for what's troubling them and not wanting to be seen as weak, they sink farther into their depression and it eventually becomes unbearable.
We have friends who are amazed about how my family shares problems and success with each other; because they've said that they've never experienced that before.
We get together for Birthdays, Holidays, or just because we feel we want to have everyone around.
When someone has troubles; they know they can call or visit any of us and we'll help and not be judgmental, at that time.
But they also know that if their behavior is what's causing their troubles, that someone is going to point that out to them.
Hispanics use the word "Familia" and it's not just about who you're related to; because it has a much deeper meaning and no amount of explaining is going to help someone who isn't prepared or wants to understand.
Just my take on all this.
At one time and not that long ago, people tended to have family members fairly close to where they were living and I can only speak from my experiences; but family looked after family.
With so many having a desire to break out on their own, families now tend to be separated by greater and greater distances.
With family close, there was normally someone to confide in and seek emotional support from and not having to worry about being seen as weak or worthless.
Now with the separation; maybe some people are finding that they don't have a release valve for what's troubling them and not wanting to be seen as weak, they sink farther into their depression and it eventually becomes unbearable.
We have friends who are amazed about how my family shares problems and success with each other; because they've said that they've never experienced that before.
We get together for Birthdays, Holidays, or just because we feel we want to have everyone around.
When someone has troubles; they know they can call or visit any of us and we'll help and not be judgmental, at that time.
But they also know that if their behavior is what's causing their troubles, that someone is going to point that out to them.
Hispanics use the word "Familia" and it's not just about who you're related to; because it has a much deeper meaning and no amount of explaining is going to help someone who isn't prepared or wants to understand.
Just my take on all this.
I thought you believed in choice and freedom. Maybe that's only when someone wants to kill the life she produced because she doesn't like the results of spreading her legs.
I have an idea. If someone that wants an abortion also wants to commit suicide, use a coat hanger and dig deep.
Ah yes, I understand what you're saying. Those that tend to vote democrat living in red states have an increased tendency to commit suicide.
A rhetorical question based on your previous point made about dem voters in red states committing suicide.
We all know that demographically blacks commit murders at a much higher rate than other races and that blacks overwhlemingly vote dem, therefore blacks living in red states commit murder at higher rates than blacks living in blue states.
I guess your point is that red states aren't doing enough to keep dem voters from killing themselves or each other.
Maybe we can look at what blue states are doing to prevent reupub voter from killing themselves and each other.
My guess is nothing and my hypothesis is that dem voters get depressed easier and are more violent and living in red states increases their depression and violent behavior.
As far as dem voters being more depressed , I base that on having watched the reaction of hrc supporters when they realized Trump was going to win and on the pundits on PMSNBC, CNN, ABC, et al who looked like they just ate a lemon.
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climate+equality
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Hello reagansghost,
It has been noticed that country music has become increasingly male.
I guess they don't want to risk another Dixie Chicks to make them feel guilty.
It has been noticed that country music has become increasingly male.
I guess they don't want to risk another Dixie Chicks to make them feel guilty.