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Rune said:
Why do you think young children need to be aware of perverse sex ideas, or sex ideas at all?
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Obviously you have no children. They notice things and ask questions. Your choices are to answer honestly within their understanding, or do like my mom always did when something was uncomfortable (like when I found her b.c. pills behind the candy in a kitchen cabinet): "Never mind." That gives the kid the idea that something is bad/wrong. (I thought she had cancer and was going to die and that's what that medicine was for.)
 
Rune said:
Get over the my party right or wrong bullshit.
Children deserve better.
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Blow it out your wazoo, Rune, you storm on here and start flinging shit. Well, you should know me better, so take your anger out on someone else, I won’t be your punching bag.
 
dukkha said:
sure you can say things like "2 moms" or "2 dads" - that's age appropriate
Not- "well they swapped genders" - it's even more confusing for kid to go there
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Depending on their age at the time, if one of my kids had asked "Why does Earl wear girl's clothes?" I would have simply stated that "He likes them." If they were older and persisted I'd have to answer something more precise. Maybe "He likes them because they make him feel happy." You can get into the specifics when they are old enough not to be satisfied with that.
 
dukkha said:
no they dont.
Kids have imaginations not wondering about their sexual identities with any seriousness of purpose
Kids might fantisize about anything - being a knight in shining armor..whatever

Let them do so, give them time to sort things out in their minds, but no kid has any sex drive at that point
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They don't?

Playing "doctor" starts very early...probably as early as 5. Little boys are dealing with a stiff dick at that age, for sure.
 
Phantasmal said:
Blow it out your wazoo, Rune, you storm on here and start flinging shit. Well, you should know me better, so take your anger out on someone else, I won’t be your punching bag.
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You are not the person I thought you were.
Live with it Toady.
 
Phantasmal said:
Blow it out your wazoo, Rune, you storm on here and start flinging shit. Well, you should know me better, so take your anger out on someone else, I won’t be your punching bag.
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You chose to answer a question specifically directed at someone else.
The fact that you are not angry at the current state of affairs indicates a deep ignorance.
 
Frank Apisa said:
American conservatives hate anyone who is not one of them...and think that the hatred is some sort of "universal hatred." That is because you morons are morons.

You assholes are not nearly the "majority"...and except for the undemocratic rules by which we live which give you morons an advantage...you would be a laughable minority rather than just a minority.
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you're such a retarded yutz.
 
Frank Apisa said:
You are a fucking moron...looking to install a theocracy, AssHat.



I am NEVER FOR abortion. I am, however, FOR allowing a woman to terminate a pregnancy occurring in her own body for any reason she wants at any time that she wants...and I want assholes like you and your fellow American conservatives to keep your fucking moronic noses out of the decision.
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up to nine months, baby murderer?

being against baby murder isn't theocracy, cock-chomper.
 
Frank Apisa said:
They don't?

Playing "doctor" starts very early...probably as early as 5. Little boys are dealing with a stiff dick at that age, for sure.
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kids touch themselves because it might be pleasureable. 5 year olds have no concept on intercourse
curiosity for "playing doctor" - but not any sexual drive
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Depending on their age at the time, if one of my kids had asked "Why does Earl wear girl's clothes?" I would have simply stated that "He likes them." If they were older and persisted I'd have to answer something more precise. Maybe "He likes them because they make him feel happy." You can get into the specifics when they are old enough not to be satisfied with that.
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Exactly, age appropriate answers and there are age appropriate books that help parents if the child persists and parents aren’t sure how to respond.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Obviously you have no children. They notice things and ask questions. Your choices are to answer honestly within their understanding, or do like my mom always did when something was uncomfortable (like when I found her b.c. pills behind the candy in a kitchen cabinet): "Never mind." That gives the kid the idea that something is bad/wrong. (I thought she had cancer and was going to die and that's what that medicine was for.)
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I have two wonderful adult sons.
Their mother has a masters in Social Work.
My mother also helped raise them and was a Professor of Pediatric Nursing.
They were not exposed to this crap as children and all their questions were always answered truthfully.

The topic is 5 year old not 5th graders.
 
dukkha said:
no they dont.
Kids have imaginations not wondering about their sexual identities with any seriousness of purpose
Kids might fantisize about anything - being a knight in shining armor..whatever

Let them do so, give them time to sort things out in their minds, but no kid has any sex drive at that point
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Indeed and when a child asks questions about the perversion that they see, the parent has the responsibility to explain or not...not some teacher.
 
To be clear:

State Farm just folded:

State Farm just folded:

State Farm Rescinds ‘Support’ For Program to Distribute LGBTQ Books to Kindergartners After Backlash


State Farm Abandons LGBTQ Children's-Book Program after ...
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12 hours ago — State Farm, the household-name insurance company, has abandoned its program to distribute LGBTQ-themed books to teachers, community centers, ...


State Farm is a privately owned company and they have a fiduciary obligation to protect their owners, the policyholders.
 
dukkha said:
no they dont.
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Well, it looks like transgender people tend to say they developed that identity sometime between age 2 and puberty, with the most common time right around age 7:

https://www.medicinenet.com/at_what_age_does_gender_identity_develop/article.htm
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/most-gender-dysphoria-established-by-age-7-study-finds/
https://childmind.org/article/transgender-teens-gender-dysphoria/
https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/what-age-do-transgender-kids-know-trans

Let them do so, give them time to sort things out in their minds, but no kid has any sex drive at that point
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This isn't about sex drive. It's about sense of self. Sex drive is about who you're attracted to, where gender has nothing to do with that.

As for sex drive, when did you experience your first crush? I think it may have been around 3rd grade for me, though it didn't get particularly "romantic" or sexual until around sixth grade.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Depending on their age at the time, if one of my kids had asked "Why does Earl wear girl's clothes?" I would have simply stated that "He likes them." If they were older and persisted I'd have to answer something more precise. Maybe "He likes them because they make him feel happy." You can get into the specifics when they are old enough not to be satisfied with that.
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what you do with your kid has little to do with the appropriateness of groomers encouraging your child to renounce their gender and take puberty blockers.
 
Mina said:
Well, it looks like transgender people tend to say they developed that identity sometime between age 2 and puberty, with the most common time right around age 7:

https://www.medicinenet.com/at_what_age_does_gender_identity_develop/article.htm
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/most-gender-dysphoria-established-by-age-7-study-finds/
https://childmind.org/article/transgender-teens-gender-dysphoria/
https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/what-age-do-transgender-kids-know-trans



This isn't about sex drive. It's about sense of self. Sex drive is about who you're attracted to, where gender has nothing to do with that.

As for sex drive, when did you experience your first crush? I think it may have been around 3rd grade for me, though it didn't get particularly "romantic" or sexual until around sixth grade.
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ya i dont believe them, or someone put it in their minds most likely in our weird society
at one point I wanted to be sure I wasnt gay - i had no feelings -but when you are young you always
are trying to harden your identity

They can do what they want to when they want to. they dont neeed schools putting idea in their heads
 
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