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That was the claim when Obamacare went into effect. That proved to be untrue.

Actually, no, it was true for many folks who got subsidies that ended up reducing their costs.

The most famous example is Julie Boostra. You know who she is, right? She's the fat, ugly, diseased GOP sow who the Koch Bros put in a political ad where she claimed Obamacare caused her premiums to be unaffordable. Well, after doing just the slightest digging, it turned out that Boonstra was lying her fat, ugly, diseased GOP sow ass off. Not only did Obamacare not cause her premiums to go up, but her insurance company told her that she would be saving $2,400 a year thanks to the ACA.

Her response?

"I choose to not believe that".

So even when you are caught in your lies, you refuse to admit you lied. And you just go and lie some more.

So if Julie Boonstra, who had the sense (?) to not remain anonymous and pretend to be an Obamacare victim was lying, why wouldn't you -or any Conservative for that matter- also be lying about Obamacare?
 
I've already provided it and the location where you can view it firsthand without being able to make excuses.

Rrrrrrrrrright...but if your goal is to not have your identity revealed on these boards, meeting me in public won't accomplish that because I'm telling you regardless of what happens, I'll splash everything about you I can dig up across the internet and your community. And I'm pretty tenacious about that kind of thing. I'm detail-oriented and excessively thorough. Is that really the kind of person you want to have this interaction with?


There's nothing stopping me from doing the same. However, you seem to think you have an advantage and still hide.

Right, but the difference is that I don't give a shit what you do about me because I'm secure in my personal circumstances. I don't have a need to posture on the internet. But you do have that need because you're insecure.

That's why this whole conversation is idiotic because the thing I'm asking you to do, you're going to go about doing it in the most inconvenient way. Why not just save both of us the trouble and verify who you are now, that way we can certify if your claims about yourself are true?
 
That's not true. I have no premium on myself as it is part of my compensation.

OR you have someone paying for you to get something for nothing.

So all this time, you were railing about paying for other people's health care when that is precisely what is happening with you; someone else is paying for your health care. You're not.

FFS, what a fucking idiot.
 
The premiums I pay for dependents is the same premium as other pay for dependents.

NO! It's fucking not!

This is precisely what I mean when I say you have no fundamental grasp of what health insurance actually is.

You are admitting you don't even pay for your health care. You say it's "part of your compensation"...which means someone else is paying for it, not you. So this whole time, you've been screeching about paying for other people's health care when that is precisely what is happening with you.

Classic projection. What a fucking fraud.

Seek mental health counseling...you're twisted and damaged. Something terrible must have happened to you in your life to make you this way.
 
Actually, no, it was true for many folks who got subsidies that ended up reducing their costs.

The most famous example is Julie Boostra. You know who she is, right? She's the fat, ugly, diseased GOP sow who the Koch Bros put in a political ad where she claimed Obamacare caused her premiums to be unaffordable. Well, after doing just the slightest digging, it turned out that Boonstra was lying her fat, ugly, diseased GOP sow ass off. Not only did Obamacare not cause her premiums to go up, but her insurance company told her that she would be saving $2,400 a year thanks to the ACA.

Her response?

"I choose to not believe that".

So even when you are caught in your lies, you refuse to admit you lied. And you just go and lie some more.

So if Julie Boonstra, who had the sense (?) to not remain anonymous and pretend to be an Obamacare victim was lying, why wouldn't you -or any Conservative for that matter- also be lying about Obamacare?


please tell me you are not STILL defending Obamacare

we put that to rest months ago, it was ruse. stupid is bad, don't be stupid
 
Actually, no, it was true for many folks who got subsidies that ended up reducing their costs.

The most famous example is Julie Boostra. You know who she is, right? She's the fat, ugly, diseased GOP sow who the Koch Bros put in a political ad where she claimed Obamacare caused her premiums to be unaffordable. Well, after doing just the slightest digging, it turned out that Boonstra was lying her fat, ugly, diseased GOP sow ass off. Not only did Obamacare not cause her premiums to go up, but her insurance company told her that she would be saving $2,400 a year thanks to the ACA.

Her response?

"I choose to not believe that".

So even when you are caught in your lies, you refuse to admit you lied. And you just go and lie some more.

So if Julie Boonstra, who had the sense (?) to not remain anonymous and pretend to be an Obamacare victim was lying, why wouldn't you -or any Conservative for that matter- also be lying about Obamacare?

Not real sure how you can claim someone that wasn't paying anything before claiming they couldn't afford coverage is paying less if they're paying even a part of it now.


What you support is someone low income, poor freeloader getting something they didn't earn subsidized by those you think have too much not giving a shit how much it costs them. At least be honest about it.
 
Rrrrrrrrrright...but if your goal is to not have your identity revealed on these boards, meeting me in public won't accomplish that because I'm telling you regardless of what happens, I'll splash everything about you I can dig up across the internet and your community. And I'm pretty tenacious about that kind of thing. I'm detail-oriented and excessively thorough. Is that really the kind of person you want to have this interaction with?




Right, but the difference is that I don't give a shit what you do about me because I'm secure in my personal circumstances. I don't have a need to posture on the internet. But you do have that need because you're insecure.

That's why this whole conversation is idiotic because the thing I'm asking you to do, you're going to go about doing it in the most inconvenient way. Why not just save both of us the trouble and verify who you are now, that way we can certify if your claims about yourself are true?

Go for it if you're man enough. Talking about it doesn't do a damn thing except prove you're a coward.
 
OR you have someone paying for you to get something for nothing.

So all this time, you were railing about paying for other people's health care when that is precisely what is happening with you; someone else is paying for your health care. You're not.

FFS, what a fucking idiot.

Not my fault you don't understand the difference between a handout and compensation. Perhaps that's why you refuse to show your fucking face.
 
NO! It's fucking not!

This is precisely what I mean when I say you have no fundamental grasp of what health insurance actually is.

You are admitting you don't even pay for your health care. You say it's "part of your compensation"...which means someone else is paying for it, not you. So this whole time, you've been screeching about paying for other people's health care when that is precisely what is happening with you.

Classic projection. What a fucking fraud.

Seek mental health counseling...you're twisted and damaged. Something terrible must have happened to you in your life to make you this way.

There you go again thinking you know more about my situation than I do.

So sad you because I don't give someone cash or write a check I'm not paying for it. Typical freeloader mentality.
 
But you're not even responsible for your own health care. Someone else is paying that for you. FFS, what a phony.

So sad you think compensation for actually doing something has to come in dollars/cents. Perhaps that's because you don't have the money nor the coverage.

Still waiting on you. You've claimed you have all the advantages yet refuse to show. That makes you either a liar because you don't believe it or a fucking coward if you truly think you have the advantage.
 
please tell me you are not STILL defending Obamacare we put that to rest months ago, it was ruse. stupid is bad, don't be stupid

The ruse is your attempts to criticize it and attack it by using lies.

Every single Conservative criticism of Obamacare has its genesis in a lie. Every. Single. One.
 
Every Conservative is just as racist as CFM is here.

Every one.

Don't let them tell you they aren't. They all think exactly like this. They are all precisely this racist.

:lolup:Morons like this one wonder why no one takes their repugnant stupidity seriously. :rofl2:

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Not real sure how you can claim someone that wasn't paying anything before claiming they couldn't afford coverage is paying less if they're paying even a part of it now.

Sigh.

I feel like you're being obtuse on purpose.

Julie Boonstra was paying for her health insurance. The ACA was passed, and Boonstra lied and said she was paying more. But her insurance company said she would be paying $2400 less, but she was still paying for insurance. Do you understand that, or do I need to draw a picture?
 
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The use of implementing a tariff is directly connected to the desire to force our trade partners to the bargaining table. That is contrasted to past administrations (Bush the younger and Obama) who failed to do anything. The aristocracy? lame. Capitalism offers the best possible pathway for an individual to gain wealth. leveraging what people already do, consume, against creating what they consume, labor- is the natural course of living. Regulating that activity against corruption is a given, but government should never be picking winners and losers (crony capitalism) which Obama most certainly tried to do, and what many of our congress critters do with their lobbyists.

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What you support is someone low income, poor freeloader getting something they didn't earn subsidized by those you think have too much not giving a shit how much it costs them. At least be honest about it.

In Medicare-for-all, if you pay payroll tax, you are paying for health care.

JFC are you ignorant.
 
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