solid proof of evolution

Cypress said:
I think what you generally find on message boards are the more repellent style of fundamentalist, evangelical, fake Christian.
Because they tend to wear their religion on their sleeves, run their mouths about it, and seem to be less educated in general.

I know many Christians who accept evolution including Catholics and Russian Orthodox - i.e., Christians who can actually trace their roots back to the ancient church and are theologically generally conservative. They just seem to be more educated, don't wear their religion on the sleeves, or run their mouths about it like the evangelical fake Christians do.

I actually know Christians who are ecologists, geoscientists, and marine scientists.

So, I can't call out all Christians for being anti-science....in my experience, most Christians I know are pro-science and accept the probability that evolution occurred. The sheer volume of the loud-mouthed, evangelical fake Christians just make it seem like Christianity more broadly is safe harbor for ignoramuses, boobs, and dunces. Just my two cents.
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If someone calls themselves a Christian and say they believe in evolution, then they are calling God a liar. So they can't be Christians. "In the beginning, God created..." It says so, right in the Bible.
 
The Ugly Truth said:
Well. Since the universe could not have always existed, and since nothing physical can create itself, that leaves only one option left. When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. The universe was created.
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By what? And how was that created? you are back to the ridiculous first cause . Making up a creature that made it all, solves nothing. Still have to find who or what made that one. And the one before that. Sorry, your answer makes no sense.
 
The Ugly Truth said:
If someone calls themselves a Christian and say they believe in evolution, then they are calling God a liar. So they can't be Christians. "In the beginning, God created..." It says so, right in the Bible.
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In the beginning.god created. Who created god. you are saying he existed before the beginning. Do you have any idea what a blow to logic that crap is?
 
Nordberg said:
By what? And how was that created? you are back to the ridiculous first cause . Making up a creature that made it all, solves nothing. Still have to find who or what made that one. And the one before that. Sorry, your answer makes no sense.
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Neither does yours. In fact, science says it's impossible. You cannot have an infinite regression of causes. There MUST be an uncaused cause that started the ball rolling. And a spiritual Being is not subject to the laws of the universe. So God does not require a creator. He has always existed.
 
Nordberg said:
In the beginning.god created. Who created god. you are saying he existed before the beginning. Do you have any idea what a blow to logic that crap is?
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Do you have any idea what a blow it is to science to believe in an infinite regression of causes? There had to be an uncaused first cause. The law of cause and effect demands it.
 
Cypress said:
Rightwing logic:

"Until I can see and photograph a jellyfish morphing into an armadillo, evolution sounds like a bunch of Kenyan Marxist nonsense to me!"
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lib'rul logic.......jellyfish turned into armadillos and I can't prove it but if you don't believe it you hate science........
 
Nordberg said:
In the beginning.god created. Who created god. you are saying he existed before the beginning. Do you have any idea what a blow to logic that crap is?
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????.....you're serious about that aren't you......I'm sorry but its no blow to logic at all.......God simply doesn't need a creator and you can't come up with a logical argument that requires his creation........sorry, but it sucks to be as stupid as you are.....
 
The Ugly Truth said:
Scientists tell us that mutations are the driving force behind evolution. It is also a scientific fact that mutations destroy genetic information. You are also faced with the problem of where that information came from in the first place. DNA is a language. Every scientific observation ever made confirms that language comes only from intelligent minds. So where did the language of DNA come from? I guess you believe it just evolved on it's own. Tell me. What do you think would happen if you made random changes in your PC's operating system? Would it run better? LOL! Fools!
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I would suggest that you take 2-3 college level biology courses. I have. Then we can discuss this a bit more intelligently.
 
Cypress said:
Well done, chap.

I should have left the bio-science stuff to you, since it is not my area of expertise...and you could blow my doors off!
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Thanks, I think Darwin’s eloquent words describe what attracts most people into studying the science of life. It is indeed filled with wonder, grandeur and beauty.
 
Just when you want to believe that certain posters on this forum can't possibly be as ignorant as they work so hard to present themselves as...along comes a thread like this one and damned if they don't double down on their ignorance.

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