I want to know why they call it a Parkway when you drive on it and a driveway when you park in it. Let get that out the way first........
Socialists Are No Strangers to Congress
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I want to know why they call it a Parkway when you drive on it and a driveway when you park in it. Let get that out the way first........
Well, socialism is when the workers own the means of production. Most capitalist economies are mixed economies.
A toll. It would take some getting used to, but it avoids plundering those who do not drive or do not use a certain roadway.
In its purest form, but pure socialism nor pure capitalism doesn't exist anywhere, just as in the US, nearly all economies are mixed economies, discussing socialism as strictly owning the means of production isn't relevant
Ah, let me guess, maybe because the road runs next to or in the vicinity of a park?
A State owned toll road does the same thing, it would be a benefit received tax, if you don't use it you don't pay for it.
Private anything is based upon profit, a private owned road could charge whatever they wanted at anytime they wanted, besides, they don't exist since the cost of construction is too high, never heard of any corporation building a bridge
Sounds somewhat plausible. Now explain driveway..............
I suppose that's true. I guess it all depends on what sort of economic philosophy is used as the foundation for the mixed economy, and whether they are founded on a system of free markets, such as the in US, or if it is founded on a system of socialism and central planning, such as in China.
Except the state has the monopoly on violence. A private business or individual doesn't. As I mentioned, a private toll would take some getting used to, but I think the lasting benefits would be better.
What the hell is "the state has the monopoly on violence?"
No lasting benefits, they have the monopoly, will establish and raise rates as they see fit, would put profit over the needs of the community
Orlando here. all of our X-pressways are toll roads. we do not have a state tax.
We do have like 70 million tourists though who throw quarters into those tool booths collectors
cawacko
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Are there any examples of toll roads doing that in the country?
How long would it take you to get from New York City to Los Angeles?
A Freeway gets you from Point A to Point B in the quickest time, that being the Main Goal.
The Main Goal of a Tollway, ... is to generate profits for the Owners.
I rode on the Pennsylvania Turnpike once. Every ten miles I had to stop and throw 35 cents into a basket, and wait around and get a Ticket. It was so aggravating I pulled over to get a meal. As I sat there complaining to everyone in earshot, the guy next to me told me if I got to one Toll Booth to quickly, I would get a Speeding Ticket.
Anybody that supports Tollways should be shot, no questions asked!
I’ll answer this from my perspective as we have both in Oklahoma and I do a fair amount of driving on them in Texas. I prefer a toll road. They are, by and large, in better shape than interstates and state highways, and in the day and age of electronic billers, they are pretty convenient.
cawacko
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When we visit my wife’s family in Dallas I drive on the toll roads. We don’t have them (to my knowledge) in the Bay Area although we do have multiple bridge tolls.
Archives seems to think the owners of the toll roads can just jack up prices at any time but I’ve not seen that happen. Is that because there is an agreement with the state not to?
There may be. I really don’t know the particulars about agreements and who controls pricing, just that they seem to work well here. But if they jacked the rices too high, just as with any business model, I suspect they would go out of business. I know people now who spend as much on extra fuel, not to mention lost time, to drive a different route to avoid paying toll prices that are very reasonable to me. I can just imagine what some would do if prices were exorbitant.
cawacko
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My father-in-law does that! He will drive 30 minutes longer to avoid a $2 toll. Like you said it seems the cost of gas plus the opportunity cost of your time is worth far more than $2.
Well, I appreciate your input. Me, ... I'm not interested at traveling 70MPH and then come to a complete stop to pay a few bucks. I'm interested in getting from Point A to Point B without stopping every 10 miles. That makes NO SENSE to me. I'd prefer getting billed on my State Tax and/or Fuel Tax and have the leisure of driving straight thru from NYC to L.A. .
With Public Roads, you're just paying for the Road.
With Private Roads, you're paying for the Road PLUS the Profit for the Investors.