Socialists Are No Strangers to Congress

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Interesting essay on socialism and the various folks who have carried the socialist mantle in Congress as well as how some of their ideas have been absorbed through time into the mainstream. Our socialist/communist friend iolo complains about America not being socialist because of McCarthy but the first paragraph addresses the issue going back to 1906.





Socialists Are No Strangers to Congress

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn’t the first self-described socialist elected to the House. Her predecessors include reformists and Soviet sympathizers.


‘Why Is There No Socialism in the United States?” asked the German sociologist Werner Sombart in a famous 1906 essay. He wanted to figure out why European countries had developed influential left-wing political movements but the U.S. hadn’t. His answer: The relative affluence of American workers blunted revolutionary impulses. “On the shoals of roast beef and apple pie,” he wrote, “socialist utopias are sent to their doom.”

But Werner Sombart never met Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Rashida Tlaib. These incoming Democratic members of Congress also claim membership in the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), an organization founded in 1982. “It’s a part of what I am,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said about her socialism on “Meet the Press.” Indeed, since Senator Bernie Sanders’s 2016 presidential bid, many Democrats have been embracing ideas that, though not explicitly socialist, are decidedly left-wing—like free public college for all and single-payer health care.

Because the socialist label has been fairly toxic in American politics, left-wing politicians have usually shunned it—but not always. In fact, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez and Ms. Tlaib aren’t the first socialists to make it to Congress. A handful of predecessors got there in the last century, and their performance suggests that while socialists on Capitol Hill never proved to be the vanguard of a new politics, they did manage to serve as a prod to reform.

The first socialist elected to Congress, in 1911, was Victor L. Berger of Wisconsin, a German-born Jew who had founded the Socialist Party of America along with the labor leader and perennial presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs. Berger was a reformist who believed in “step at a time” socialism, which to some radicals made him a sellout. A few measures he advocated were classically socialist, like the nationalization of the radio airwaves; other radical ideas included abolishing the presidential veto and the Senate. But none of these proposals got very far. On the other hand, he touted some causes that were eventually adopted and became popular—notably, old-age pensions, which in 1935 became law with the passage of Franklin Roosevelt’s Social Security Act.


Often paired with Berger in the history books is Meyer London, another Socialist Party member, who represented Manhattan’s Lower East Side in Congress in 1915-19 and again in 1921-23. A Jewish immigrant from Russia, London also pushed for reforms that appeared radical at the time but seem mainstream today: a minimum wage, unemployment insurance and anti-lynching laws. At the same time, London, like Berger, disavowed insurrectionary rhetoric. He decried Lenin’s “dictatorship of the proletariat” in Bolshevik Russia and insisted it wouldn’t work in America.

Rather less innocuous in his activities was Samuel Dickstein, a Democrat who replaced London in Congress in 1922. Dickstein was best known for leading the original Special Committee on Un-American Activities, created in 1934 to target pro-Nazi groups and other far-right subversives. By the 1940s, though, the committee had evolved into the House Un-American Activities Committee, or HUAC, which became notorious for its pursuit of Communists and left-wing subversives. Ironically, it was revealed after the Cold War that Dickstein was himself a Communist spy: From 1937 to 1940, the Soviets paid him to pass on information about committee business.

The best-remembered far-left radical to hold a congressional seat was Vito Marcantonio, who represented East Harlem. Though originally elected as a liberal Republican, a few years later he joined the American Labor Party, a breakaway faction of the Socialist Party that supported Franklin Roosevelt in the 1936 election. But his tiny party soon came under Soviet control, and Marcantonio followed suit; he’s often described, a little misleadingly, as America’s only Communist congressman. An advocate of civil liberties and labor rights, in 1948 he backed the third-party presidential candidacy of Henry Wallace, a defiant critic of Harry Truman whose campaign was heavily influenced by the Communist Party. In 1950 Marcantonio cast the only vote in the House against a bill to aid countries resisting communist subversion and one of just two votes against tightening laws against espionage.

Marcantonio briefly had a party-mate colleague in Congress. In February 1948, a one-term New York state assemblyman named Leo Isacson won a special election for a seat representing the Bronx, in an upset that presaged Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s Democratic primary victory over incumbent Joe Crowley last summer. Mystified analysts attributed the surprise win to light turnout and Isacson’s staunch support for recognizing Israel in the year of its birth. But Isacson lost to a Democrat in November.

Since then, no member of Congress has been elected as a representative of a socialist party. Ron Dellums, the longtime congressman from Oakland, and Major Owens, who represented Brooklyn for 24 years, both belonged to DSA, but they were elected as Democrats and their socialist tendencies rarely attracted comment. Mostly they were viewed as left-wing Democrats. Curiously, Bernie Sanders, who refused to join the Democratic Party (except when seeking its presidential nomination), isn’t a DSA member. In Congress his formal party affiliation has been “independent,” though as a matter of philosophy he identifies as a socialist, not a liberal.

Socialists in American politics have come and gone, often quickly. That is because, as various scholars have argued in response to Sombart’s question, our two-party system has usually proven responsive and malleable enough to embrace popular new proposals from the left, blunting the demand for a wholly new movement or party. Ideas such as old-age pensions and a minimum wage, though backed by socialists, soon came to be viewed as mainstream liberal positions. Whether it was Berger and Meyer in the Progressive Era, Marcantonio and Isacson in the 1940s, or Dellums and Owens in recent times, they have had influence only insofar as they worked within the Democratic Party.

The election of Ms. Ocasio-Cortez and Ms. Tlaib should likewise not be overhyped, especially when stacked alongside the dozens of liberal and moderate Democrats who also won House races in November. (More new members have joined the New Democrat caucus than the Progressive Caucus.) Contrary to some fears, their presence in Congress hardly augurs a radical transformation of the Democratic Party.

Yet like their socialist predecessors, their arrival in Washington is also more than a novelty or a fluke. Like the Progressive Era and the 1930s and 1940s, our current moment is pregnant with anxiety about the future and discontent with the political solutions on offer from the major parties. In the past, the Democratic Party has frequently paid attention to those voices of discontent, even if it hasn’t always adopted their preferred solutions. Its prospects in the coming years may depend on whether it does the same today.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/socialists-are-no-strangers-to-congress-11546530927?mod=hp_lead_pos11
 
But now we got a nation of young idiots who actually think socialism will improve people's lots in life
 
Are Public Schools 'Socialism'?

It's 'Free' for every child.
The Buildings aren't private, they are publicly owned.
The Teachers are paid by the State.

If Public Heath was like that, would that be 'Socialism'?
 
Socialism was a legitimate political entity in American politics up until WWI. If you review the political history of the NE States and parts of the upper MidWest you will find an array of Socialist State office holders, Mayors and local political figures. Anywhere there was a sizeable European ethnic population there was a Socialist presence

It subsided with WWI when they continuously opposed entry into the War and the radicalization with the Russian Revolution. Socialism has been a part of America since the last half of the 19th Century if not even before that
 
Are Public Schools 'Socialism'?

It's 'Free' for every child.
The Buildings aren't private, they are publicly owned.
The Teachers are paid by the State.

If Public Heath was like that, would that be 'Socialism'?

I think the issue/discussion is not if certain things are socialist, we don't have a 100% laissez-faire Ayn Rand Atlas Shrugged type society, but the overall economy where government owns the means of production which people like iolo want.
 
But now we got a nation of young idiots who actually think socialism will improve people's lots in life

It is not a dichotomy, a choice between capitalism and socialism, America's economy for the past Century and a half has been a mixed economy, as is every nation in the world's economy, socialism is not a threatening foreign entity into America.
 
I think the issue/discussion is not if certain things are socialist, we don't have a 100% laissez-faire Ayn Rand Atlas Shrugged type society, but the overall economy where government owns the means of production which people like iolo want.

Where has she or anyone said the Gov't should take over the means of production, nationalize the private sector? For the most part they are talking about the Gov't being better able to deliver necessary human services since it is not motivated by profit only
 
Where has she or anyone said the Gov't should take over the means of production, nationalize the private sector? For the most part they are talking about the Gov't being better able to deliver necessary human services since it is not motivated by profit only

Have you read up on her "New Green Deal" (I believe that's what it's called) and her renewable energy plan? It is pushing up to what is considered socialism. We aren't going to go in a few weeks from our current mixed economy to wholesale socialism but implementing her plan is how we move towards it on a more incremental basis.
 
But now we got a nation of young idiots who actually think socialism will improve people's lots in life

Most Americans don't know what "socialism" is.. They blather on in fear and name calling.

Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the government.
 
But now we got a nation of young idiots who actually think socialism will improve people's lots in life

Most Americans don't know what "socialism" is.. They blather on in fear and name calling.

Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the government.
 
It is not a dichotomy, a choice between capitalism and socialism, America's economy for the past Century and a half has been a mixed economy, as is every nation in the world's economy, socialism is not a threatening foreign entity into America.
this new brand of socialism is a threat.
There isn't a lot of "mixing" when you start talking about guaranteed incomes etc.

Kids today actually think the government should provide happiness ( as opposed to pursuit thereof)
 
Have you read up on her "New Green Deal" (I believe that's what it's called) and her renewable energy plan? It is pushing up to what is considered socialism. We aren't going to go in a few weeks from our current mixed economy to wholesale socialism but implementing her plan is how we move towards it on a more incremental basis.

No I have not, and to be honest, probably won't, she is a freshman Congresswomen, other than the media focus on her, she has little real influence in Washington. I do believe she already got put in her place with Pelosi's new House rules on introducing legislation

And people are always worried about this "incremental basis," how long have we heard such as the NRA saying any gun legislation is just the beginning leading to confiscating all guns? Or the right wing demogogues preaching any compromise means you have lost and it is only a matter of time before the other side pushes the agency further? Same arguement was employed back in the fifties to fight Social Security as if it was going to lead to the downfall of America
 
this new brand of socialism is a threat.
There isn't a lot of "mixing" when you start talking about guaranteed incomes etc.

Kids today actually think the government should provide happiness ( as opposed to pursuit thereof)

How the hell would you know what kids today think?
 
How the hell would you know what kids today think?
the same way i understand anything. I read and research.

My friend has a niece in college..it's sooo bad..I have to assume she is not alone in what get's shoved down her throat.
 
this new brand of socialism is a threat.
There isn't a lot of "mixing" when you start talking about guaranteed incomes etc.

Kids today actually think the government should provide happiness ( as opposed to pursuit thereof)

Guarantee incomes isn't what you precieved it as, nor is it appearing anytime in the near future, and since you used as an example, minimum wages is a form of guarantee income mixing socialism with capitalism, you still have to hold the job to keep what is guaranteed

And you sound like any older generation passing judgement on "kids today," even heard the same thing when I was growing up, except then it was "kids today don't want to work"
 
Guarantee incomes isn't what you precieved it as, nor is it appearing anytime in the near future, and since you used as an example, minimum wages is a form of guarantee income mixing socialism with capitalism, you still have to hold the job to keep what is guaranteed

And you sound like any older generation passing judgement on "kids today," even heard the same thing when I was growing up, except then it was "kids today don't want to work"
a guaranteed income is a step of government subsidy to workers - that's much different the a minimum wage
 
We do have some rural co-ops like the 20 in South Carolina.. They work very well and keep prices down.

https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article199140969.html

Not uncommon, I live in a City, but two attached towns, suburbs, own their own gas company, ever Appliance store in the area offers electric stoves at unbelievable reduced rates to compete with gas appliances

I do have a neighborhood food coop, but it is only for fresh produce, plus they have great Christmas parties
 
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