So now we need a Ballroom?

[Damocles]

What do you mean that's "something of the left?"

Have you heard MAGA's talk about January 6th? It's complete denial for many of them. Thorough.

When the right acts like the left, people go to prison. When the left acts like the left we are told they are "mostly peaceful" though there are fires and dead people.

When someone dies at a riot that the right held, it is an unarmed right winger. What we hear about is someone that died for a different reason days later and it is blamed on the right....

When someone dies at a riot from the left, we are told it is "mostly peaceful" still...

Yeah, something of the left.

I get that the riot on the 6th of January was craptacular... I also understand that "mostly peaceful" riots mean not peaceful at all.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Epstein was a good example of trump's lack of transparency.

but this thread is about the ballroom.

which he has been clear about.

 

[Phantasmal]

lol. Pointing out things I paid for (Biden's renovation of the situation room and the magically travelling cocaine baggy found within, we paid for that), and things we did not (Trump's tennis pavilion and this Ballroom)...

I get that you are upset when you understand that we paid for braindead's renovations but we are not paying for this one.... however I will get upset if I have to pay for this one.... until then. I'll continue to point out the difference between things I paid for, and things I do not pay for.

Biden changed the drapes and a rug in the Oval office. He had repairs made to the West wing. This is not on the same scale of demolishing a whole wing of the White House and building a ballroom. He did not go through legal channels to do this, either.

It’s the people’s house, shouldn’t we have a say in what is demolished or torn out?

DonOld lied to the public about the construction not affecting the original structure.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

What do you mean that's "something of the left?"

Have you heard MAGA's talk about January 6th? It's complete denial for many of them. Thorough.

January 6 was a fed operation.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Biden changed the drapes and a rug in the Oval office. He had repairs made to the West wing. This is not on the same scale of demolishing a whole wing of the White House and building a ballroom. He did not go through legal channels to do this, either.

It’s the people’s house, shouldn’t we have a say in what is demolished or torn out?

DonOld lied to the public about the construction not affecting the original structure.

you're welcome, dumb cranky biddy.

 

[Damocles]

Biden changed the drapes and a rug in the Oval office. He had repairs made to the West wing. This is not on the same scale of demolishing a whole wing of the White House and building a ballroom. He did not go through legal channels to do this, either.

It’s the people’s house, shouldn’t we have a say in what is demolished or torn out?

DonOld lied to the public about the construction not affecting the original structure.

He is taking one wall down and adding to it. Not "demolishing an entire wing"... You are blathering. Truman literally stripped the building to the studs and the entire thing was rebuilt, on our dime.

Changing drapes... please. Biden had a team come in and redo the situation room, then blamed the cocaine found in the WH that his son left in the situation room on the construction folks after they migrated that stuff from the situation room, to a library room.... finally to a cubby outside...

The magical cocaine mystery tour.

 

[Phantasmal]

He is taking one wall down and adding to it. Not "demolishing an entire wing"... You are blathering.

I am not blathering, that’s something you do!

DonOld claimed the White House would not be touched. He lied.

 

[BartenderElite]

When the right acts like the left, people go to prison. When the left acts like the left we are told they are "mostly peaceful" though there are fires and dead people.

When someone dies at a riot that the right held, it is an unarmed right winger. What we hear about is someone that died for a different reason days later and it is blamed on the right....

When someone dies at a riot from the left, we are told it is "mostly peaceful" still...

Yeah, something of the left.

I get that the riot on the 6th of January was craptacular... I also understand that "mostly peaceful" riots mean not peaceful at all.

That's pretty one-sided exaggeration. People were arrested at "left oriented" riots, and hundreds ended up in prison.

There is no difference between how MAGA talks about J6, and how the left talks about the BLM riots. None. MAGA's always say J6 was mostly peaceful. Many characterize it still as more of a tourist situation where cops were opening doors for people. Others say that the violence was false flag stuff.

Describing Babbit as "unarmed" doesn't fully characterize the situation.

Oh....and did I mention that everyone from J6 was pardoned, regardless of their crime? Show me the left equivalent of that one, and we can talk.

 

[BartenderElite]

January 6 was a fed operation.

This is what I'm talking about.

"We're not the same."

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

This is what I'm talking about.

"We're not the same."

yes.

you're an idiot, and I'm intelligent.

 

[Diogenes]

He is taking one wall down and adding to it. Not "demolishing an entire wing"... You are blathering. Truman literally stripped the building to the studs and the entire thing was rebuilt, on our dime.

Changing drapes... please. Biden had a team come in and redo the situation room, then blamed the cocaine found in the WH that his son left in the situation room on the construction folks after they migrated that stuff from the situation room, to a library room.... finally to a cubby outside...

The magical cocaine mystery tour.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980956267343732898

View: https://x.com/Nero/status/1980956267343732898

 

[Diogenes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980840881633874404

View: https://x.com/Anarseldain/status/1980840881633874404

 

[Lionfish]

Frail? Y O U are the one who's triggered by barf emojis. Close your eyes and scroll away now.

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Love you morons.

 

[Damocles]

That's pretty one-sided exaggeration. People were arrested at "left oriented" riots, and hundreds ended up in prison.

There is no difference between how MAGA talks about J6, and how the left talks about the BLM riots. None. MAGA's always say J6 was mostly peaceful. Many characterize it still as more of a tourist situation where cops were opening doors for people. Others say that the violence was false flag stuff.

Describing Babbit as "unarmed" doesn't fully characterize the situation.

Oh....and did I mention that everyone from J6 was pardoned, regardless of their crime? Show me the left equivalent of that one, and we can talk.

I don't think the pardon was "right winger" that is all Trump. Most of those folks had served their time as well, and leaders were not pardoned, though they were commuted.

Describing Babbit as unarmed is describing her as she was, unarmed. The only person killed that day was that one person and the Capitol Police settled out of court with her family.

And saying that there is no difference between how the two talk about those things is nonsense and dismisses the number of times that leftist riots happen... the leftist news stations still maintain the "mostly peaceful" myth of the BLM riots. Leftist riots happen far, far more often than right winger riots, hence you have only the one example.

Look. when the violence happens if it is political you could bet it is a leftist thing and be right over 99% of the time. Pretending that because this happened this time it means that everything is the same is just pretense and ignores history.

 

[BartenderElite]

I don't think the pardon was "right winger" that is all Trump. Most of those folks had served their time as well, and leaders were not pardoned, though they were commuted.

Describing Babbit as unarmed is describing her as she was, unarmed. The only person killed that day was that one person and the Capitol Police settled out of court with her family.

And saying that there is no difference between how the two talk about those things is nonsense and dismisses the number of times that leftist riots happen... the leftist news stations still maintain the "mostly peaceful" myth of the BLM riots. Leftist riots happen far, far more often than right winger riots, hence you have only the one example.

Look. when the violence happens if it is political you could bet it is a leftist thing and be right over 99% of the time. Pretending that because this happened this time it means that everything is the same is just pretense and ignores history.

I figured I'd get some good spin in response.

Any actual stats to back up that 99% figure?

 

[Diogenes]

You think the Government rents the tents? It doesn’t own the tents? Has outside catering hosts the events?

You could have looked it up. Maybe you did, and didn't want to admit what you found.

White House tents are rented on a per-event basis, not purchased outright.

This aligns with federal procurement practices for temporary event infrastructure, managed through the General Services Administration (GSA), which centralizes contracts for common goods and services across agencies.

The Executive Office of the President (which oversees White House operations) procures via GSA schedules or competitive bids from certified vendors specializing in diplomatic events (e.g., companies like Taylor Rental or custom fabricators).

Purchasing would be impractical for one-off uses, as tents are event-specific and not reusable year-round due to storage constraints on the 18-acre grounds.

• Why rental? It avoids capital expenditure on non-permanent assets. Historical examples include Obama-era state dinners (e.g., for India in 2009 or Africa summit in 2014), where tents were rented similarly.
• However, public expense is still involved for:
• Procurement and oversight: GSA contract administration and inspections (part of the ~$805 million annual White House budget for operations, including events).
• Event logistics: Federal staffing, utilities, and security for setup.
• Indirect costs: If damage occurs, the government may pay deductibles or fees.

 

[Damocles]

I figured I'd get some good spin in response.

Any actual stats to back up that 99% figure?

All you'd need to do is come up with a few more to show that my "about 99%" is a bit high... but I don't think you will. It is the only example you bring up. Next time we have some organized US Political riot violence, how much do you want to bet it will be left wingers? I know you aren't stupid enough to bet it will be right winger riots...

Anyway, let's go with this chart and I'll change that to "about 95% of the time you will be right":

Raw Frequency: Left-Wing Riots Dominate in Volume​

Time Period	Total Political Riots (Violent Protests)	Left-Wing	Right-Wing	% Left-Wing
1960–1980	~1,200+ (urban unrest, anti-war, civil rights backlash)	~1,100	~100	92%
1980–2000	~600 (labor, anti-globalization, environmental)	~550	~50	92%
2000–2015	~800 (Occupy, Ferguson, anti-Iraq War)	~750	~50	94%
2016–2020	~11,000+ (BLM, Antifa, counter-protests)	~10,800	~200	98%
2020 (Peak Year)	~10,600 BLM-linked events	~10,100	~500 (Proud Boys, militias)	95%
2021–2025	~2,500 (campus protests, climate actions, J6 aftermath)	~2,400	~100	96%

 

[TOP]

What they demolished... a walkway... I imagine that you didn't know or you wouldn't be throwing such a fit...

 

[christiefan915]

but this thread is about the ballroom.

which he has been clear about.

It was until I wondered whether trump would show us a list of donor, just to prove to us that there really is no taxpayer money going toward it.

 

[TOP]

If there was taxpayer money going towards the renovation we would know it by now that's for sure... He's paying for it along with donations.. I imagine there will be a list somewhere and a plaque inside the ballroom....As a thank you to the contributors...