SNAP benefits cut!!! Musk gets a trillion dollars!
- Thread starter Jarod
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Just looked at my latest payslip. Looks like I lied to you. All my medical and dental premium deductions are pre-tax. I don't know why I thought they were post-tax, sorry!
Althea
Althea told me...
No worries. I've been in the individual market for 40+ years. There's not much about insurance issues that I don't know. Thankfully, I'm using Medicare now.
But my rates halved and my coverage greatly improved when ACA was first passed. Before Republicans illegally (see Supreme Court loss) defunded the risk corridor program.
Republicans see an easier path to their personal wealth and brand by cutting benefits while reducing revenues by giving those who don't need it, huge tax breaks!
The receptionist has an abysmal track record in the accuracy department.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Yes, that means the red states aren't getting screwed if expanded Medicaid disappears. They aren't dependent on the massive federal subsidies for it like the blue states are. The Democrats recognize this and this is one of the reasons they want the subsidies continued, because they realize that voters in their states are likely to be angered about losing Medicaid benefits unlike people in red states where the subsidies really don't matter so little changes.
All states set up an exchange. That's a separate thing from expanded Medicaid. The exchange is for purchase of a health insurance policy under Obamacare. People using that exchange hate the system. Right now, about 15% of US counties (the system goes by county)--down from about 50% in 2017--have just one (1) Obamacare provider. That means you have ZERO choice about who you can get a policy from in those counties. It's take it or leave it, a monopoly.
The rest usually have 2 or 3 to choose from. The only thing you get to really choose between them is the price you pay. Coverage is the same in all policies, although there may be some differences in networks. Obamacare limits choice, limits coverage, and in general is a one-size-fits-all program that often leaves consumers with shit coverage they neither want nor need.
Diminishing Insurance Choices In The Affordable Care Act Marketplaces: A County-Based Analysis - PMC
While the Affordable Care Act has expanded health insurance to millions of Americans through the expansion of eligibility for Medicaid and the health insurance Marketplaces, concerns about Marketplace stability persist—given increasing premiums and ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The Affordable Care Act and the data: Who is insured and who isn't | USAFacts
More than 45 million people had enrolled in ACA-related insurance plans as of early 2024.
usafacts.org
Obamacare's Monopoly: Counties With Only One Insurer Option | ShunIns
"Explore how Obamacare’s impact has led to counties with only one insurer option, creating monopolies and limiting healthcare choices for Americans."
shunins.com
I'm looking only at the "excellent" column. Surveys of this sort tend to get poor results except at the extremes. People tend towards a middle position and "good" can mean anything from "good" to "okay" to "really don't use it much."
Americans are unhappy with the state of health care and insurance
538's polling column about the state of health care, voters' trust in the 2024 election results and President Joe Biden's approval rating.
abcnews.go.com
IBDaMann
Well-known member
This must be a Jarod thread, oozing with credibility.
Althea
Althea told me...
I'm not going to wade through that mess. You cited figures regarding satisfaction with what you call Obamacare.Yes, that means the red states aren't getting screwed if expanded Medicaid disappears. They aren't dependent on the massive federal subsidies for it like the blue states are. The Democrats recognize this and this is one of the reasons they want the subsidies continued, because they realize that voters in their states are likely to be angered about losing Medicaid benefits unlike people in red states where the subsidies really don't matter so little changes.
All states set up an exchange. That's a separate thing from expanded Medicaid. The exchange is for purchase of a health insurance policy under Obamacare. People using that exchange hate the system. Right now, about 15% of US counties (the system goes by county)--down from about 50% in 2017--have just one (1) Obamacare provider. That means you have ZERO choice about who you can get a policy from in those counties. It's take it or leave it, a monopoly.
The rest usually have 2 or 3 to choose from. The only thing you get to really choose between them is the price you pay. Coverage is the same in all policies, although there may be some differences in networks. Obamacare limits choice, limits coverage, and in general is a one-size-fits-all program that often leaves consumers with shit coverage they neither want nor need.
Diminishing Insurance Choices In The Affordable Care Act Marketplaces: A County-Based Analysis - PMC
While the Affordable Care Act has expanded health insurance to millions of Americans through the expansion of eligibility for Medicaid and the health insurance Marketplaces, concerns about Marketplace stability persist—given increasing premiums and ...
The Affordable Care Act and the data: Who is insured and who isn't | USAFacts
More than 45 million people had enrolled in ACA-related insurance plans as of early 2024.
Obamacare's Monopoly: Counties With Only One Insurer Option | ShunIns
"Explore how Obamacare’s impact has led to counties with only one insurer option, creating monopolies and limiting healthcare choices for Americans."
I'm looking only at the "excellent" column. Surveys of this sort tend to get poor results except at the extremes. People tend towards a middle position and "good" can mean anything from "good" to "okay" to "really don't use it much."
Americans are unhappy with the state of health care and insurance
538's polling column about the state of health care, voters' trust in the 2024 election results and President Joe Biden's approval rating.
Most Red states did NOT set up an exchange. Those limited choices benefit the insurance companies, and might just skew the attitude toward the ACA. That's on the governors, not the law.
Althea
Althea told me...
The thorn in their side is the 3.8% cap gains tax for any investment earnings over $200k/year. This helps to fund the Medicaid expansion, and unless they kill ACA, it won't go away.
Republicans want to get rid of entitlements completely. Can you imagine all of the sudden trump telling people on Social Security and Medicare - "sorry - you just didn't buy enough of my crypto!".
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
You really don't understand Obamacare. There are two parts to Obamacare:
There is the insurance marketplace. That exists in all 50 states and offers insurance plans, bronze, silver, gold, or platinum level that vary the amount paid and the deductibles. These are purchased by individuals and subsidized.
There is expanded Medicaid. This is "free" health insurance for people who meet the low earnings and other requirements to get it. These plans are no-cost to the person receiving the insurance. States could opt in or reject this part of the plan. Blue states went all-in while red states generally partially opted in or refused to sign on.
10 red states have opted out of the Medicaid expansion but still offer Obamacare marketplace policies. Other red states opted in in part to Medicaid expansion but didn't accept the whole plan. They offer Obamacare marketplace policies.
Althea
Althea told me...
There is nothing about insurance that you could possibly post that I do not know. I don't read your fabrications, though. I was suffering in the individual market for more than 40 years before ACA. Whereas every state has an exchange, Red state governors refused to set one up so they ended up with what the govt. could create for them in the last minute. Similarly, they refused the Medicaid expansion, so their constituents suffer at their hands.
If someone has a complaint about their choices, then they should write to their governor, or move to a better state.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
You missed the seething sarcasm.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
if you're amending the law just concede it's a replacement.
you still want it to be "obamacare" for legacy and egotistical reasons.
you people are all fakes and frauds.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Correct. He did not.
You lied that SNAP benefits were cut - they weren't. You flat out lied.
You lied that Elon Musk somehow got a Trillion dollar tax cut, he didn't - again you blatantly lied.
As is the case with every other leftist on this board, you're a pathological liar.