Should the govt build refineries?

Average 3 billion a pop?
It doesn't matter, it isn't the only way they'd be built.

The reality is refineries are 25% more efficient now even with less of them than they were before. The prediction is that the US will have a lower demand for oil right around 2030, the necessity for "new" refineries is specious at best, however if it were the only way to get a refinery built or to increase production, yes, the government should then do it.
 
It doesn't matter, it isn't the only way they'd be built.

The reality is refineries are 25% more efficient now even with less of them than they were before. The prediction is that the US will have a lower demand for oil right around 2030, the necessity for "new" refineries is specious at best, however if it were the only way to get a refinery built or to increase production, yes, the government should then do it.

Bush was pushing it, but it didn't do any good.
 
But the oil that the Government buys, is unrefined and therefore there is no immediate threat to the companies that transport it.

Weh have the interests of national security. We can put big oil under martial law if they give the govt any crap.

Also it would be a sure way to drive customers to the govt produced fuel.
And cause nationalization of the oil industry. I think they would be smart enough to want to cooperate and avoid that.
 
Weh have the interests of national security. We can put big oil under martial law if they give the govt any crap.

Also it would be a sure way to drive customers to the govt produced fuel.
And cause nationalization of the oil industry. I think they would be smart enough to want to cooperate and avoid that.

And there it is, everyone.
Proof that liberals don't believe in anything, except what they can take from othes.
 
But you believe that it's OK to take from others, when you feel it's something that you're entitled to.

When national security is at risk the USA has a long history of taking what they want to.
And not even when national seucrity is at risk.

Ever hear of eminent domain?
They take your property now to build private commercial hotels on.
 
When national security is at risk the USA has a long history of taking what they want to.
And not even when national seucrity is at risk.

Ever hear of eminent domain?
They take your property now to build private commercial hotels on.

And you think it's OK.
You have some severe entitlement issues.
 
When national security is at risk the USA has a long history of taking what they want to.
And not even when national seucrity is at risk.

Ever hear of eminent domain?
They take your property now to build private commercial hotels on.

there are places right now that WANT refineries, or any other thing that produces jobs....the government could get a good start by issuing all of the one thousand permits necessary to build the refinery in South Dakota....
 
there are places right now that WANT refineries, or any other thing that produces jobs....the government could get a good start by issuing all of the one thousand permits necessary to build the refinery in South Dakota....
I agree the process should be expedited.
Bush promised to do this during the aftermath of Katrina. Didn't the repubs have control of both houses at that time?
 
I agree the process should be expedited.
Bush promised to do this during the aftermath of Katrina. Didn't the repubs have control of both houses at that time?

lol, the republicans never had enough control to push through something that would have resulted in domestic oil production.....good lord, you nearly made Nancy Pelosi roll over in her grave.....
 
lol, the republicans never had enough control to push through something that would have resulted in domestic oil production.....good lord, you nearly made Nancy Pelosi roll over in her grave.....

Pelosi and the super green types are major allies of big oil. They just do not realize it.
 
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