Should political parties be banned in the U.S.?

"You are being very intellectually dishonest..." b3

If by "you", you mean you, I agree.

"Bush didn't "inform" Congress, the intelligence community informed Congress with the same facts they informed Bush with." b3

piffle

I saw Secretary Powell's casus belli presentation at the U.N. General Assembly.
When JFK warned Americans about Soviet nuclear missiles on Cuban soil, he used declassified U2 spy plane photographs.
What Secretary Powell presented to the general assembly were U.S. government drawings. Artwork.

And it all turned out to be lies. There was never a single mobile WMD lab ever found.


July 2003 Ambassador Joseph Wilson published a New York Times op-ed article
"Some of the intelligence used by the Bush administration was twisted to back up the Iraqi threat."*
"It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place."*

~3 days later Secretary Colin Powell responded:
"At the time it was put into the uh State of the Union my best understanding of this is that it had been seen by the intelligence community and vetted. Uh but on subsequent examination it didn't hold up, and we have acknowledged that."*


"You seem to be confusing Bush's national speech to the public (in front of Congress), as him "informing them", but they were already informed independently before that happened"

If you're accusing President Bush of repeating himself, I'll not contest your point.
But whatever whatever whatever, President Bush said on camera, to all citizens both legislators and not:

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt, that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
U.S. President Bush (the younger) televised address to the U.S. March 17th, 2003


That would ABSOLUTELY have to be a lie.
It's impossible for a falsehood to be a certitude. Bush presented the falsehood as a certitude.

BUSH LIED !!

And thousands of us died as a result.

And the entire Middle East is now unstable, including the worst refugee crisis since WWII by some accounts.

PS
"Time is not on our side. I will not wait on events while dangers gather. I will not stand by as peril draws closer and closer. The United States of America will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons." U.S. President Bush (the younger) in his State of the Union speech Jan. 29, 2002

If they are ever found, I'll withdraw my criticism.
Don't hold your breath waiting for them to be found.
They won't be.
They're not there. Blix & Ritter saw to that.
 
"Eliminate money from campaigning and there is no need of parties." Cg #3

Eliminating money from campaigning would be a disaster.

How would the candidates get their campaign messages out?

- They wouldn't have any $money (except perhaps their own?) to buy an ad, and publish their platform, their agenda.

- Would they even have the resources to drive their pickup truck from town to town to gladhand at churches and factories?

- If their own $money would be allowed, it would leverage HUGE advantage to the wealthy; an ideal recipe for plutocracy, among the most despicable forms of oligarchy.
Learn to use the quote feature!!

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#5

That's one approach.

You don't need me to present the advantages / benefits, of what you suggest.

But there are down-sides.

a) Some estimates indicate Trump got over a $Billion worth of press coverage $free to him, just by making outrageous news-making headlines, and then walking them back after he'd gotten the publicity.

- Mexicans are rapists. I'm gunna build a wall. Mexico will pay for it. Trump has been hedging on all that ever since.

- So it would invite a Jerry Springer approach to political campaigns in the U.S., and would advantage the gaudy campaigners in elections; concentrating their populations in our government positions.

b) The People get to vote on election day.

BUT !!

We also get to vote before that, by which candidate we write a check to.

I've made such donation before. Perhaps this recent presidential election might not seem the best example. Hillary hot $more, and lost.

BUT !!

She not only got more $money.
She also got millions more votes.
Hillary was in fact the popular favorite. If not for the electoral college, Hillary would be the president elect.
Why can't you use the quote feature, idiot?

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"Why can't you use the quote feature, idiot?" M #24

I'm not quite smart enuff.

Day don't not teach dat stuff in grad skool.

Thanks for asking mommy.
 
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