Should people be allowed to carry handguns openly?

[USFREEDOM911]

Keep your day gig cause you ain't clever or funny from anything. I've never understood why you ask poet to take his big black dick out of your asshole and stick it in your mouth. I bet you're a santorum slurper as well.

Now that you're projecting your own behaivor, onto others; this is becoming funnier and just a little disturbing.
But your behavior, is your lfe and you should be allowed to live it in anyway that you see fit.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

unbelievable....from your own link which you highlighed

Arizona law permits private business owners (or their designates) to prohibit weapons from being brought onto their property, whether signs are posted or not.

:lol:

And how do the "prohibit" it?

 

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And how do the "prohibit" it?

are you drunk?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

are you drunk?

Why, are you looking for someone to drink with?
Which of course has nothing to do with the question of:
"How do they prohibit it?"

 

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Why, are you looking for someone to drink with?
Which of course has nothing to do with the question of:
"How do they prohibit it?"

you claimed they could not unless they had a sign, you even highlighted that from your own link....then you ask me to prove it. that is why i think you're drunk or maybe you're just stupid. it is not for me to tell you how they prohibit it, the fact is, you were dead wrong, TWICE.

LOL

 

[USFREEDOM911]

you claimed they could not unless they had a sign, you even highlighted that from your own link....then you ask me to prove it. that is why i think you're drunk or maybe you're just stupid. it is not for me to tell you how they prohibit it, the fact is, you were dead wrong, TWICE.

LOL

You can post your forced faux laughter all you want; but you still haven't answered the question of "How do the prohibit it?"
It's nice to see that you have made the decision to become part of the same behavior that Gatorman and Legion exhibit.

 

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You can post your forced faux laughter all you want; but you still haven't answered the question of "How do the prohibit it?"
It's nice to see that you have made the decision to become part of the same behavior that Gatorman and Legion exhibit.

poor baby can't handle being wrong, despite the fact you highlighted what you wanted me to prove. LOL. trust me, that is not forced faux laughter, i am truly laughing at you. you wanted me to prove something you already gave a link to and not just a link, but highlighted it.

you're moving the goal posts now because you're embarrassed. let me help you out though:

i surmise that they prohibit it by asking you to leave the premises.

pretty simple stuff USF.

 

[gui1tars]

This is freaking hilarious!!!!!! Popcorn and Cherry Dr. Pepper is in order!!!!!!!!

 

[USFREEDOM911]

poor baby can't handle being wrong, despite the fact you highlighted what you wanted me to prove. LOL. trust me, that is not forced faux laughter, i am truly laughing at you. you wanted me to prove something you already gave a link to and not just a link, but highlighted it.

you're moving the goal posts now because you're embarrassed. let me help you out though:

i surmise that they prohibit it by asking you to leave the premises.

pretty simple stuff USF.

So; if they asked me to leave the premises, hen it must mean that I had already entered the premises.

there is no law, which is why it's the law. Anything not specifically prohibited, is therefore allowed. Since there is no law that prohibits carrying in a bank, carrying in a bank is legal.

Correct.
I've seen numerous people open carry, in a bank.

and what bank did you see people open carry in?

Capital One - Chase - I and E

i'm not sure we disagree here. though i disagree with your statement that the bank has to put up a sign, like...no shirt, no shoes....no guns...no service.

In actuallity they do have to put up a sign.

cite

From the Arizona Departemnt of Public Safety site:

I entered a private business with my concealed handgun and CCW permit. The business did not have any signs posted prohibiting weapons. Shortly thereafter, an employee approached me and said they do not allow firearms in their business and I must take the gun off the premises. Can they do that?

Yes. Arizona law permits private business owners (or their designates) to prohibit weapons from being brought onto their property, whether signs are posted or not. Private businesses are typically non-government operated businesses such as grocery and department stores, convenience stores, laundromats, banks, office complexes, etc. Failure to obey the request can result in your arrest for trespassing. (ARS 13-1502 / ARS 13-1503)

Are there any firearm restrictions?
Please see below for firearm restrictions:

•Businesses serving alcohol for consumption on the premises (exceptions for peace officers and ccw permitees, see A.R.S. 4-229, A.R.S. 4-244, A.R.S. 13-3102)

•Polling places on election days (peace officers are excepted)

•School grounds (some exceptions – see below) (peace officers are excepted)

•Commercial nuclear & hydroelectric generating stations (peace officers are excepted)

•Military installations (peace officers are limited)

•Indian reservations (check w/tribe, peace officers are limited)

•Game preserves (peace officers are limited)

•National parks (peace officers are limited) more information available at www.doi.gov or contact the park service regarding pending federal legislation.

•Correctional facilities

•Federal buildings (peace officers are limited)

•Airports (in or beyond security checkpoints) (peace officers are limited)

•Where federal, state or local laws prohibit weapons (peace officers are limited)

•State or local government/private establishments or events when asked by the operator/sponsor/agent. Most government facilities will provide a location to temporarily store a firearm. Persons who refuse to leave and/or secure their weapon are trespassing and can be cited or arrested for ARS 13-1502 or ARS 13-1503, depending on the venue (peace officers are excepted)


4-229. Licenses; Handguns; Posting of Notice

A. A person with a permit issued pursuant to section 13-3112 may carry a concealed handgun on the
premises of a licensee who is an on-sale retailer unless the licensee posts a sign that clearly prohibits
the possession of weapons on the licensed premises. The sign shall conform to the following
requirements:
1. Be posted in a conspicuous location accessible to the general public and immediately adjacent to the
liquor license posted on the licensed premises.
2. Contain a pictogram that shows a firearm within a red circle and a diagonal red line across the firearm.
3. Contain the words, "no firearms allowed pursuant to A.R.S. section 4-229".
B. A person shall not carry a firearm on the licensed premises of an on-sale retailer if the licensee has posted
the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section.
C. It is an affirmative defense to a violation of subsection B of this section if:
1. The person was not informed of the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section before the
violation.

so you were wrong and i was right

No; because I can carry a weapon into a bank, if they don't have a sign up.
Prove me to be in error.

unbelievable....from your own link which you highlighed

Arizona law permits private business owners (or their designates) to prohibit weapons from being brought onto their property, whether signs are posted or not.

And how do they "prohibit" it?

i surmise that they prohibit it by asking you to leave the premises.

And the only way they can ask me to leave, is if I've already entered the premises; which had no sign.

Which brings us back to:

there is no law, which is why it's the law. Anything not specifically prohibited, is therefore allowed. Since there is no law that prohibits carrying in a bank, carrying in a bank is legal.

Yes

 

[gui1tars]

Did I say hilarious? I meant ridiculous!!!!!!!!

 

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So; if they asked me to leave the premises, hen it must mean that I had already entered the premises.



























And the only way they can ask me to leave, is if I've already entered the premises; which had no sign.

Which brings us back to:


Yes

you are a retard....for the SECOND TIME....those are not my words you're quoting, they are capt's. i even gave you the link to his post.

why do i bother.....

 

[USFREEDOM911]

you are a retard....for the SECOND TIME....those are not my words you're quoting, they are capt's. i even gave you the link to his post.

why do i bother.....

I know you're scrambling to get out of the corner, that you painted yourself into; but I can leagally enter a building, that has no sign posted, while carrying a weapon, unless it's one of the businesses that have been listed as automatically being prohibited.

I've proven my case.

 

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I know you're scrambling to get out of the corner, that you painted yourself into; but I can leagally enter a building, that has no sign posted, while carrying a weapon, unless it's one of the businesses that have been listed as automatically being prohibited.

I've proven my case.

really? your own link, as noted previously, you even highlighted the part that says you are wrong. i am in no corner. you keep claiming you can legally carry a gun into a bank unless they have a sign posted, but....the link you gave me and you even underlined it....says you can't.

how have you proven your case? seriously...what is wrong with you?

 

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once again for the galactically stupid:

Yes. Arizona law permits private business owners (or their designates) to prohibit weapons from being brought onto their property, whether signs are posted or not.

^ USF gave that link and underlined the words in large font. yet....he thinks he has proven his case and that i'm backed into a corner.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

really? your own link, as noted previously, you even highlighted the part that says you are wrong. i am in no corner. you keep claiming you can legally carry a gun into a bank unless they have a sign posted, but....the link you gave me and you even underlined it....says you can't.

how have you proven your case? seriously...what is wrong with you?

You're ability to comprehend is really in need of a repair; becaue you haven't proven what stops me from legally carrying a gun, into a bank, unless they have a sign posted.
You keep referring to what I provided, so why don't you copy the part that you think prohibits me from legally carrying a gun into a bank.
This should be real easy for you.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

once again for the galactically stupid:

Yes. Arizona law permits private business owners (or their designates) to prohibit weapons from being brought onto their property, whether signs are posted or not.

^ USF gave that link and underlined the words in large font. yet....he thinks he has proven his case and that i'm backed into a corner.

And yet you only refer tot he part that you FEEL (you're becoming quite the liberal) supports your stance and are ignoring the rest of the information.

How do they prohibit me from legally carrying a weapon into a bussiness, that doesn't have a sign posted?

 

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You're ability to comprehend is really in need of a repair; becaue you haven't proven what stops me from legally carrying a gun, into a bank, unless they have a sign posted.
You keep referring to what I provided, so why don't you copy the part that you think prohibits me from legally carrying a gun into a bank.
This should be real easy for you.

holy SHAT....i have provided it at least two times, probably three....here it is again retard:

Yes. Arizona law permits private business owners (or their designates) to prohibit weapons from being brought onto their property, whether signs are posted or not.


do you need me to make it anymore clear?

 

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And yet you only refer tot he part that you FEEL (you're becoming quite the liberal) supports your stance and are ignoring the rest of the information.

How do they prohibit me from legally carrying a weapon into a bussiness, that doesn't have a sign posted?

fuck it...i'm done with this. you're being fucking retarded. your own link proves you're wrong and now you're just being stupid so you don't have to admit you're wrong.

pound sand

 

[USFREEDOM911]

holy SHAT....i have provided it at least two times, probably three....here it is again retard:

Yes. Arizona law permits private business owners (or their designates) to prohibit weapons from being brought onto their property, whether signs are posted or not.



do you need me to make it anymore clear?

WHY, YES you do need to make it more clear.
What does the business owner have to do, to prohibit the legal carrying of a weapon into his business; if he's not going to post a sign stating so?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

fuck it...i'm done with this. you're being fucking retarded. your own link proves you're wrong and now you're just being stupid so you don't have to admit you're wrong.

pound sand

That's it Yurtsie.
Run away, when you can't prove your point.

RUN YURTSIE, RUN.