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christiefan915 said:
Which party despises Muslims, blacks, Hispanics and gays, among others? Which party wants to take away their rights? Which party wants to keep Muslims and Hispanics out of the country? Which party wants to deny women the right to choose? Which party initiated a pre-emptive war and killed innocent citizens while calling it "collateral damage"? Which party wants to cut off benefits to poor children because "they're taking our money"?
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the dumbfuck Democrats have been lying their asses off about the Republicans for decades just to fool those groups into voting for them.........
 
I Love America said:
Yes, you are filled with hatred. You try to hide it with euphemisms about caring for the poor, but your policies do quite the opposite and you don't care and you refuse to see. So you are either guided by hatred or are a complete fool. Your pick.

And yes, if we have another San Bernardino in this country before November 2016 and all the demalquedacrats can do is lecture us about going easy on muslimes, your party will get destroyed at the polls.
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LMFAO.
 
Rune said:
Cite Dems spewing hate.
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Obama linked congressional Republicans opposed to the deal with Iranian hard-liners who chant “death to America,” saying they are “making a common cause with the Republican caucus.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...s-down-on-comparing-gop-to-iranian-hardliners

Obama tells Latinos to ‘punish our enemies,’ the GOP

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/25/obama-tells-latinos-to-punish-our-enemies-the-gop/#ixzz3uEqiUuvb

“Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to put him against a wall and shoot him.”

Democratic Rep. Paul Kanjorski

If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” & “We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends

Barack Obama

A message to progressives: By all means, hang Senator Joe Lieberman in effigy.”

Paul Krugman

Michele,(Bachman) slit your wrist. Go ahead… or, do us all a better thing [sic]… start at the collarbone.”

Talk show host Montel Williams

Barack Obama is a “light-skinned” African-American “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

Senator Harry Reid,

All Hymie wants to talk about is Israel; every time you go to Hymietown, that’s all they want to talk about.”

Reverend Jesse Jackson

“You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here.”

DNC Chairman Howard Dean

“How much time do we have left to talk about how stupid Sarah Palin is?”

Bill Maher: “You could have went to New Hampshire and killed two birds with one stone.” (Senator): “Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.”

The Washington Post’s Richard Cohen on CNN; (I) Senator John Kerry on HBO’s “Real Time.”

http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/17/liberals-hate-speech-double-standard/

And on and on and on you dumbass.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
then why did they become radicalized? What's your fix? A final solution to the Islamic problem? You are simply wrong and don't understand the root causes of radicalization and the socio-economic factors involved. The poor are rarely radicalized so poverty in and of itself is not the cause of radicalization. Look at the membership of ISIS or the 911 terrorist. They are not composed of the poor but of relatively prosperous. The poor are to concerned about day to day survival to be radicalized so I would argue your understanding of what causes radicalization is flawed.
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Palestinian terrorists are quite typically poor. I expect a fair amount of Europeans who travel to Syria to join ISIS are some where between rich and poor. The Boston Bombers were taking government handouts. I don't think it would have mattered had they gotten good jobs. It's easy to get the idea economic factors have little to do with Islamic terrorism or radicalism.

Probably because they don't have much if anything to do with it.

No one has the final solution and I certainly don't claim to. I am certain the problem isn't lack of jobs or climate change though.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
yes. For example of what I'm speaking. Fascism and Nazism were not the cause of radicalization in Europe of the early twentieth century but rather radicalized people were exploited by both political movements to advance their movements. Both political factions readily exchanged and converted members of the other political movement to their movements. Without large groups of radicalized persons neither party would have gained traction and the radicalized persons easily adopted then abandoned and converted to the other ideology as both ideologies appealed to the radicalized psychology. In fact Hitler in his writings boasted on how communist radicals made the best converts to the NAZI party.

So without those socio-economic factors Wahabiast, Communist, Fascist, etc, would be impotent to radicalize large numbers of people. Now in the example I used on Europe the radicalization of large masses of people in Europe was caused by economic collapse and collapse of the existing social order as a consequence of the catastrophic results of the First World War.

Again, I urge you to read Eric Hoffers "The True Believer" or Wiki the book for the cliff notes for some insight on the psychology and external factors of radicalization. It's very informative.
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While post WWI Europe certainly provided fertile ground for the spread of Nazism, Nazism wasn't defeated until it was confronted militarily. It would be nice if the cure for Islamic radicalism was found in improving social and economic conditions but that's sadly not the case.

Not to mention the problem with implementing it. Unbelievably, many world leaders think global climate change policy would do it.

But again, what role did social and economic factors play in the most recent Islamic terror attack? The motivation for the shooters was 100% religious and had nothing to do with economics or social injustice.

Your theory is the operating assumption behind Obama's responses to terrorism, so we get to see how ineffective it is. In his mind, Islamic terrorism is a response to centuries of western imperialism in the Middle East. In the terrorists minds, we are kafir infidels and our western values are an affront to Allah. An idea that was born in the Koran.

That's a bit of a disjunction so it's not surprising the theory doesn't work. Worse than not working, it's done nothing but exacerbate the phenomenon: radical Islam has spread drastically during the almost 8 years of Obama's reign.

The West is engaged in an existential struggle with radical Islam and many in the West are either slow to recognize it or are determined to pigeon hole the phenomenon into their pet theories instead of engaging it directly.

2016 will be the most important foreign policy election of our lifetimes.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Palestinian terrorists are quite typically poor. I expect a fair amount of Europeans who travel to Syria to join ISIS are some where between rich and poor. The Boston Bombers were taking government handouts. I don't think it would have mattered had they gotten good jobs. It's easy to get the idea economic factors have little to do with Islamic terrorism or radicalism.

Probably because they don't have much if anything to do with it.

No one has the final solution and I certainly don't claim to. I am certain the problem isn't lack of jobs or climate change though.
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Well not completely, radicalization is largely driven when people feel their life has been irrevocably ruined. So economic displacement that creates numbers of new poor can drive radicalization as can a social structure that limits personal development and advancement to an extreme, political displacement, as well as other factors can drive radicalization.

The point being is that Islam per see isn't the problem. Most Islamic radicals are coming from the Mediterranean, North Africa and the Arab peninsula, which is a small percentage of the Mulim population. Why are these regions breeding radicalization is the questio? Islam could very easily be replaced with some nationalist movement or some political ideology in this region cause with the radicals "causes" are easily interchangeable.

As for a solution, well that's my point, a solution, in large measure will consist of defeating ISIS in combat, as well as, determining the root causes of radicalization in this region and defusing them. To that end anti-Islamic rhetoric is counterproductive as to be successful will require the cooperation of our non-radicalized Muslim allies as there are limits to what US power can accomplish here, which is a central lesson we have learned from the Iraq war.
 
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