Sessions big-gov't views on marijuana

ROFLMAO

How dare he enforce federal law. What the fuck is he thinking. I think it is laughable that you are all of a sudden a champion of states rights.

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He is consistent with his liberal views on drugs and current science and you are championing centralized government power over the states and Nancy Reagan science.

Thanks for the chuckle.
 
Pot does work for a lot of people. It's a very subjective thing - I know people for whom opiates do not work, and pot works better - and vice versa. Opiate addiction is down in states where there is legal pot.

If they really care about opiate addiction, they won't interfere w/ medical marijuana in states that legalize it. I read that Sessions is having a study done on violence related to marijuana, presumably to make the case that it should remain illegal, which seems impossibly illogical to me. The violence related to marijuana has so much to do w/ the fact that it IS illegal.

I just don't get his views. He said that people who use pot are not "good people," but I'm sure he's okay w/ bourbon guzzling where he's from.
ya.i agree Thing.
Patients needs to be able to use what works for them as long as it's under a Dr's supervision and w/protocols to deter abuse.
I mean i'm way beyond even this- being a fanatical libertarian-but I can live with that balance.

No way a i defending Sessions on this at all. It's counter-productive to put it mildly
 
I keep hoping that Trump's pragmatic/pro-business side will step in on this and override Sessions, or at least discourage him.

The tax revenue in states where there is legalization is ridiculous. They ran a story the other day about a budget crisis in NV when they had a problem w/ supply, and had written 10's of millions of tax revenues into the budget already.
 
so what do you advise for chronic pain management?
I do not trust NSAID's too many people have died from adverse/cardiac effects. and they offer little pain relief.

What i think is the way to go is if you use opiates, you have to be subjected to random urinanalysis
and you have to bring your pills in to be counted when asked.

IOW's use them as prescribed -it's the abuse and high dosing that causes the real heavy addiction.

I advise growing poppies.
The system has failed you and will not soon change for the better.
Last year I broke my ankle and was sent home with nothing...I have no record of drug seeking.

I can warrant one thing though, if a politician asks for pain relief they get different treatment than you or I.
 
He is such an idiot when it comes to pot. It is pretty dismaying that someone so clueless can be calling policy when it comes to this issue.

His views are basically '50's era, "Reefer Madness" paranoia. He makes claims such as marijuana leading to opioid addiction and being only "slightly less awful" than heroin that actually fly in the face of scientific evidence. Opioid addiction has gone down in states where medical marijuana is legal. And this is not surprising - if pot is prescribed for pain, it obviously gives patients and doctors an alternative to much more addicting and dangerous painkillers.

Now, he wants the ability to enforce federal laws on pot, and basically ignore states rights. It really makes me sick to think about. How can small-gov't, states rights conservatives support this?
Relax, Liberal1.

I think once we can separate the stupid fuck abusers from actual patients, I'm quite certain Sessions will be able to see the value of medicinal marijuana.
 
I advise growing poppies.
The system has failed you and will not soon change for the better.
Last year I broke my ankle and was sent home with nothing...I have no record of drug seeking.

I can warrant one thing though, if a politician asks for pain relief they get different treatment than you or I.
good lord. "grin and bear it" is not medicine
 
so what do you advise for chronic pain management?
I do not trust NSAID's too many people have died from adverse/cardiac effects. and they offer little pain relief.

What i think is the way to go is if you use opiates, you have to be subjected to random urinanalysis
and you have to bring your pills in to be counted when asked.

IOW's use them as prescribed -it's the abuse and high dosing that causes the real heavy addiction.

I don't have a good answer for opioid replacement.

There probably isn't one. I do know the heroin crisis here in WV spiked after they started cracking down on prescription opioids. There were plenty of prescription pain pill addicts already from docs over prescribing pain meds and the heroin is cheaper and probably easier to come by.

It's a really bad problem here.
 
so what do you advise for chronic pain management?
I do not trust NSAID's too many people have died from adverse/cardiac effects. and they offer little pain relief.

What i think is the way to go is if you use opiates, you have to be subjected to random urinanalysis
and you have to bring your pills in to be counted when asked.

IOW's use them as prescribed -it's the abuse and high dosing that causes the real heavy addiction.

I would be happy to talk to you about this in PM if you like. Not knowing your full medical history I would never give medical advice but I will give you some general information

First of all the side effect risks with NSAIDs are pretty low given the extent to which they are prescribed/taken. The cardiovascular risk of NSAIDs is extremely low. The cardiovascular risk of COX2 inhibitors was a combination of shitty science and journalistic malpractice. It has led to needless suffering.

Depending on the type of pain you are having, I would suggest a long conversation with your physician to discuss risk/benefit

As to the addiction risk of opioids, I should point out that when used for real pain the risk is very low. High doses can be routinely given without risk of addiction if titrated appropriately.

There is one important thing to know about pain management. First, opioids do not make pain go away. They do not alter the underlying cause of the pain. They change ones perception of the pain. NSAIDS on the other hand can eliminate the pain through their anti inflammatory properties. This is a very important distinction as it can dictate treatment regimens.

I truly hope you can find comfort as I believe it is a crime that people are allowed to live in pain due to a lack of understanding of physiology and science.
 
I keep hoping that Trump's pragmatic/pro-business side will step in on this and override Sessions, or at least discourage him.

The tax revenue in states where there is legalization is ridiculous. They ran a story the other day about a budget crisis in NV when they had a problem w/ supply, and had written 10's of millions of tax revenues into the budget already.

Imagine how much money they could raise making heroin or cocaine legal?

Yes let's balance the books on the backs of the poor with gambling and drugs.

Perfect
 
I advise growing poppies.
The system has failed you and will not soon change for the better.
Last year I broke my ankle and was sent home with nothing...I have no record of drug seeking.

I can warrant one thing though, if a politician asks for pain relief they get different treatment than you or I.

Liar
 
Imagine how much money they could raise making heroin or cocaine legal?

Yes let's balance the books on the backs of the poor with gambling and drugs.

Perfect

Man o' straw.

How can you say "I truly hope you can find comfort as I believe it is a crime that people are allowed to live in pain due to a lack of understanding of physiology and science", and then not be ticked about what Sessions is doing?

His entire POV on pot is not based on any understanding of the science whatsoever. As with everything, your responses are determined by what you think Joe Lefty will support or oppose.
 
Man o' straw.

How can you say "I truly hope you can find comfort as I believe it is a crime that people are allowed to live in pain due to a lack of understanding of physiology and science", and then not be ticked about what Sessions is doing?

His entire POV on pot is not based on any understanding of the science whatsoever. As with everything, your responses are determined by what you think Joe Lefty will support or oppose.

Unlike you I know the science of pain management.

Sessions is following the law. Period. Stop. Don't like it. Then change the law.

I don't agree with bureaucrats arbitrarily deciding what laws they want to enforce. Even if it is a law I disagree with.

You are too caught up in your desire to smoke dope that you miss my salient point.

What I think about the drug war is irrelevant.

The law is on Sessions side whether you like it or not.
 
Unlike you I know the science of pain management.

Sessions is following the law. Period. Stop. Don't like it. Then change the law.

I don't agree with bureaucrats arbitrarily deciding what laws they want to enforce. Even if it is a law I disagree with.

You are too caught up in your desire to smoke dope that you miss my salient point.

What I think about the drug war is irrelevant.

The law is on Sessions side whether you like it or not.

Your blind devotion to Trump and his minions is noted.
 
feeling triggered, snowflake?

I don't either. I hate smoking period, but it helps my wife out with her severe chronic pain and stomach issues, so I support it.


so like most liberals or conservatives, you are only interested in issues that concern you and to hell with all the rest. awesome, typical dumbed down american.


yes, definitely triggered.

You really are a self righteous prick. We agree on many issues but you are one of those cockswallows who thinks someone has to think like you on everything.

You really aren't much different than Deshtard. Being married to you and listening to your screeds, I can understand why your old lady would want to stay high.
 
We did.
One of my best friends is president of Mass NORML
NORML
A sister in law is married to an attorney for National NORML.

We fought for the present state of affairs for our whole lives not to have our work flushed by a single fanatic appointed by a raving lunatic with no concern but for himself.

Maybe you and your cunt girlfriend should have worked harder to elect Hillary

Elections have consequences. Sit down and suck it.

Your resistance is futile and impotent. Much like you
 
The bolded really sums it up, and is something I can't get over. It's ONE GUY, and his views are so archaic and misinformed. Some of the things he has claimed are so easily disproven by the science, but he gets to call the shots.

Elections have consequences buttercup

You ignored it when Obama was doing shit with his Czars that many of us hated. Now it is your turn.

Keep the tears flowing. Maybe Desh will share her crack with you
 
Elections have consequences buttercup

You ignored it when Obama was doing shit with his Czars that many of us hated. Now it is your turn.

Keep the tears flowing. Maybe Desh will share her crack with you

Well, that sums it up w/ you. With me, it has always been & always will be about good, common sense policy.

With you, it's whatever sticks it to liberals. Therapy might help.
 
I don't have a good answer for opioid replacement.

There probably isn't one. I do know the heroin crisis here in WV spiked after they started cracking down on prescription opioids. There were plenty of prescription pain pill addicts already from docs over prescribing pain meds and the heroin is cheaper and probably easier to come by.

It's a really bad problem here.
now it's "treating all of it as something Dr's are not supposed to treat with" - their current oxymoron protocol.

That's a honest answer.
WV is tracking the same results of what other states get-cheap heroin and shortages of pain pills..coupled w/ draconian crack downs
and dealers and junkies and legit medical users all get mixed together in the chaos
 
And, I've said from the beginning, Sessions is horrible. He is an ignorant tool. Why Trump picked him is beyond me.

In fact, Trump is opposed to federal spending to crack down on medical marijuana.

http://www.businessinsider.com/medical-marijuana-trump-administration-2017-first-statement-2017-5

And during his campaign:

When Donald Trump was running for president, he had three things to say about marijuana policy: He was “in favor of medical marijuana 100 percent,” he was skeptical of legalizing it more broadly, and marijuana policy should basically be left to the states.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/...-in-the-campaign-leave-pot-to-the-states.html

Sessions should be fired, ASAP
 
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