Moon is critical of Zionist policies, like myself, like Christie, like many others, we are not anti Semitic, the Palestinians are also Semites.
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This is what Zuheir Mohsen said in 1977. He was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979.
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
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Don't make me laugh, he/she only ever sees one side of the argument. I myself did the same for a long time until I took the opportunity to learn about the background. You would do well to do the same, Israel is not perfect but it is pretty much compared to the despicable fascistic regimes surrounding it.
Ehud Olmert back in 2008 offered Abbas practically everything that he demanded. He even said if you don't take it now then you'll not get a better deal for many decades if ever.
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I read extensively on the issue, you always ASSume you know more than others, that is your big problem, because you don't.
As a Zionist propagandist you seem to have an unending supply of tedious traitors to quote tediously, but to what purpose you keep up this unending pointlessness I do not know. They paying you by the word of something?
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Well you certainly keep it to yourself because I've never seen any of it. Ok, let's take you at your word then, so what are your thoughts on Hamas? Specifically its persecution of women and gays, and the sending of hundreds of children to their deaths digging tunnels to line the pockets of the leaders.
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No mate, it's simple enough. I don't just buy into the crude propaganda fed to us by the Left. I believed it all for many years but now realise that the story is far more complex and nuanced. It's called being open-minded and realistic, you should try it some time.
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This is where Rana goes to ground, it's a pattern I have come to recognise well.
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Nope, I just have a life. I condemn Hamas, as well as cultural practices which oppress women. The problem is that the people oppressed by Israel have no voice in their governance, so they turn to rebellion. It is the history of our nation. We rebelled against the King. We turned to terrorist, militia actions to keep George and the boys from oppressing us. We were not as oppressed as are the Palestinians, they turn to Hamas having very few other options to stop the harsh treatment they receive from the Zionist policies. Give the Palestinians a government, a voice and they will not support terrorism.
I don't engage you because you are an asshole most of the time, but I like moon, so I spoke up in his defense, he is not an anti Semite, he is an anti Zionist as am I.
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You don't know what a natural vs artificially contrived nation state? We will further this discussion when you do.
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Their religion oppresses women. No matter which country it controls.
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Sharon gave back Gaza in 2005, even evicting 8000 settlers in the process. Did that help? No it didn't, not in the slightest. Olmert gave Abbas the best deal possible in 2008 even including a corridor between the West Bank and Gaza and international control of old Jerusalem but they rejected that as well. Look at this video and see the truth!
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I ceased caring what you think of me sometime back, to be brutally honest. Moon is like so many, totally incapable of seeing the other side of the issue. I just don't buy that argument any more, the vast majority of Jews are Zionists. I also cannot see how it helps the debate to get arseholes like him constantly calling Israelis fascists.
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Gave back Gaza, but then imposed a blockade, will not issue work permits, so basically, the people are basically prisoners in Gaza, but I am sure you knew this.
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Yes if I wanted unbiased reporting on Israel, I certainly wouldn't use Al Jazeera and the Electronic Intafada. I have a Jewish friend who married, moved over here about 20 years ago. She hates Netanyahu with a passion, is very left wing, but she absolutely loathes and detests ignorant people who just spout bullshit all the time. I guarantee that after 20 minutes in her company you'd realise that much of what you believe is just groupthink and propaganda.
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Those women and Jew haters not only demand the land they lost back, they also demand to be given work. I demand you give me work, too. How you feel about it.
Lol, Al Jazeera is an award winning news agency, I find them to be unbiased. I would love to talk to your friend, do you think you could arrange it?