SCOTUS opinion leaked: Roe v Wade

And on the flip side....those who bitch about a nanny state but want local gov't to enforce an invasion of privacy between doctor & patient are hypocrites. Also, they pretend that there are not other amendments that pertain to a right to medical procedures without outside religious interference. I would really like to see their "unless it's spelled out in no uncertain terms, it's not a law" applied to Constitutional law they do like. Hmmm?
So its my body my choice. Except when it comes to masks and vaccines.
 
No thank you.

I did not read further than this.

Because you're a typical empty suit conservative who can't debate worth a damn. Taking excerpts out of context is SOP for you jokers when your assertions and statements are properly challenged, and you can't logically or factually defend them.

You wrote, "...I am more than fine with states doing their own thing except where the Federal Government has jurisdiction as outlined in the Constitution. If what your state is doing really bothers you then the remedy is for you to move to one which you like better."

Had you bothered to read my entire response, you would have noted this, ".... Yep! I mean, unless the Constitution ORIGINALLY and specifically spelled out in no-uncertain terms says otherwise, the States can jolly well bring back Jim Crow with the right Congress and SCOTUS. "

Learn to read CAREFULLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY ... I've been trying to teach you right wing toots that for 20 years now! Jeez!
 
So its my body my choice. Except when it comes to masks and vaccines.
good point . but you have to put Roe in there too
All this does is make the process/procedure unequal in different state and diminish personal autonomy

SCOTUS should have just ruled on the details of the MS law instead of going full retard
Next time I try to assert my (inherent) privacy rights, overturning Roe will weaken my argument
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
And on the flip side....those who bitch about a nanny state but want local gov't to enforce an invasion of privacy between doctor & patient are hypocrites. Also, they pretend that there are not other amendments that pertain to a right to medical procedures without outside religious interference. I would really like to see their "unless it's spelled out in no uncertain terms, it's not a law" applied to Constitutional law they do like. Hmmm?


So its my body my choice. Except when it comes to masks and vaccines.

Apples and oranges, my gun toting little chicken.

One is dealing with the questionable science and dubious declarations regarding treatment and procedures of a virus in the general population.

The other is dealing with folk who want to force a woman to bring a pregnancy to term regardless of whether it was conceived through rape or incest or whether the woman is in a position to care for the child properly.

Got that bunky? Pew-pew-pew!
 
Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
So its my body my choice. Except when it comes to masks and vaccines.
good point . but you have to put Roe in there too
All this does is make the process/procedure unequal in different state and diminish personal autonomy

SCOTUS should have just ruled on the details of the MS law instead of going full retard
Next time I try to assert my (inherent) privacy rights, overturning Roe will weaken my argument

He has no "point".

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...inion-leaked-Roe-v-Wade&p=5088200#post5088200
 
a woman is the one with the egg...a man cant get a woman pregnant unless she agrees to have sex...which unless its rape it takes the woman saying YES

Gene Simmons they say has had sex with what maybe 10000 women ...every time the woman made that decision to fuck or not to fuck..Gene had no say in it he just agreed with her

How bout the woman says no sex with the Base Player Drummer and the Roadie tonight....100% BC and no kid getting made tonight
You mean Gene Simmons just sat there passively and 10,000 women mounted him without his agreement and consent? Man, I hate when that happens. :laugh:

I think Simmons is the king of bull shit anyway. He's too ugly to get that many women.
 
So? That doesn't make it not murder. Tell us what is the philisophical difference between killing a 9 month old that has passed through a woman's vagina and one who hasn't?

Read the article and get back to me.

Debunking the Mythical “Nine Month Abortion”

"At the third presidential debate last week, Donald Trump made a dramatic statement about abortion. He claimed that you can “rip the baby out of the womb” in the ninth month of pregnancy, “as late as one or two or three or four days prior to birth.” His statement is not based on medical or legal fact, and his claim that this happens demands a response.

Dr. Jen Gunter, an OB-GYN who has performed many late-term abortions, was quick to clear things up on her blog:

There are no ninth month abortions. Really. A ninth month abortion is a unicorn and so it’s ridiculous to even discuss it. Terminations after 24 weeks are for severe fetal anomalies.

So what was Trump talking about? His statement harkened back to the misleading term “partial birth abortion” — a term that has no medical meaning but is interpreted to mean a later-term abortion. The term was coined as a political phrase
in 1995 by the anti-abortion advocacy organization the National Right to Life, in an effort to prevent second trimester abortions. It’s not a medical term because there is no such thing as a partial-birth abortion, much as there is no such thing as a nine-month abortion."

https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/2016/10/debunking-the-mythical-nine-month-abortion/
 
You mean Gene Simmons just sat there passively and 10,000 women mounted him without his agreement and consent? Man, I hate when that happens. :laugh:

I think Simmons is the king of bull shit anyway. He's too ugly to get that many women.

You hate when that happens? Hmmm... :thinking:

You might be surprised. So is Mick Jagger. He opens his mouth and his face disappears. But he somehow does, doesn't he?
 
It is not half a truth. If the story says abortion will be a decision made by state governments (if Roe is overturned) most people will know the state makes decisions through the state legislature and governor. The story does not need to include a civics lesson to explain that.

The story needs to be accurate and and as complete as time allows.

The story was presented, very deliberately, to be both incendiary and deceptive.

IF Roe and Casey are overturned, THEN the legality or illegality of the performance of abortion (and when and where and how) will be returned to the States where, CONSTITUTIONALLY, it belongs.

The raving and dishonest propaganda from dishonest and frantic morons on the Left is what it is.

Do you live in a state in which you feel that your elected representatives will not vote to allow Abortion at any stage of pregnancy for any reason?
 
Read the article and get back to me.

Debunking the Mythical “Nine Month Abortion”

"At the third presidential debate last week, Donald Trump made a dramatic statement about abortion. He claimed that you can “rip the baby out of the womb” in the ninth month of pregnancy, “as late as one or two or three or four days prior to birth.” His statement is not based on medical or legal fact, and his claim that this happens demands a response.

Dr. Jen Gunter, an OB-GYN who has performed many late-term abortions, was quick to clear things up on her blog:

There are no ninth month abortions. Really. A ninth month abortion is a unicorn and so it’s ridiculous to even discuss it. Terminations after 24 weeks are for severe fetal anomalies.

So what was Trump talking about? His statement harkened back to the misleading term “partial birth abortion” — a term that has no medical meaning but is interpreted to mean a later-term abortion. The term was coined as a political phrase
in 1995 by the anti-abortion advocacy organization the National Right to Life, in an effort to prevent second trimester abortions. It’s not a medical term because there is no such thing as a partial-birth abortion, much as there is no such thing as a nine-month abortion."

https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/2016/10/debunking-the-mythical-nine-month-abortion/
There are late term abortions. The abortionist (I refuse to call them doctors) puts a suction canula into the brain and sucks it out. He then crushes the skull to make the baby easier to deliver through a partially dilated cervix. THAT is the behavior you are trying to minimize. Anomalies? You mean for things like Downs. Many Downs babies are much loved and cherished members of their families who can live independently and you would have them murdered because they are different from you. Shame on you.
 
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Read the article and get back to me.

Debunking the Mythical “Nine Month Abortion”

"At the third presidential debate last week, Donald Trump made a dramatic statement about abortion. He claimed that you can “rip the baby out of the womb” in the ninth month of pregnancy, “as late as one or two or three or four days prior to birth.” His statement is not based on medical or legal fact, and his claim that this happens demands a response.

Dr. Jen Gunter, an OB-GYN who has performed many late-term abortions, was quick to clear things up on her blog:

There are no ninth month abortions. Really. A ninth month abortion is a unicorn and so it’s ridiculous to even discuss it. Terminations after 24 weeks are for severe fetal anomalies.

So what was Trump talking about? His statement harkened back to the misleading term “partial birth abortion” — a term that has no medical meaning but is interpreted to mean a later-term abortion. The term was coined as a political phrase
in 1995 by the anti-abortion advocacy organization the National Right to Life, in an effort to prevent second trimester abortions. It’s not a medical term because there is no such thing as a partial-birth abortion, much as there is no such thing as a nine-month abortion."

https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/2016/10/debunking-the-mythical-nine-month-abortion/
Abortions after 20 weeks are very rare. Anti choice people focus on these abortions. It is usually done to save the life of the mother or if there is something wrong with the fetus as your article stated. It is also not performed in the fashion that was stated by one poster.
 
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