Science Is in the Details

Mott the Hoople said:
Well I don't know if an evolutionary biologist with have the necessary qualifications but I am an admirer of Dr. Dawkin's scientific work. He's also a phenomenal educator, something that doesn't seem to be held in high regard in scientific circles these days.
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I was just trying to get a laugh. Dawkins is extremely antagonistic about his atheist views, more than even I'm comfortable with. I don't think it ultimately has a good reflection on atheists to be so militant about atheism. But I still enjoy watching him. :D
 
Mott the Hoople said:
It's easy to refute the author. He's advocating a false paradigm. Science has it's limits. It's only designed to describe and understand natural phenomena. Outside of this limit science has nothing to say.
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Why should supernatural phenomena get a free ride just because some people hold precious beliefs about it, Mott? Is it evil for those skeptics to do their tests to prove, for instance, ghost hunters wrong?

No, the supernatural is outside of science because it contradicts it, not because it's inappropriate for science to address these subjects. Let's run an experiment about god right now. Oh wait, it's non-falsifiable? You've got to be kidding me. That's bullocks.

And that's how all supernatural phenomenon go, besides precious god.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
But as a scientist I do understand that this is my personal belief and it is not a scientific belief and that my personal belief goes beyond the limits of science. This does not mean that I cannot practice my profession objectively and within the limits and bounds of science.
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Do you agree with Collins on this:



Most scientists who study the human mind are convinced that minds are the products of brains, and brains are the products of evolution. Dr. Collins takes a different approach: he insists that at some moment in the development of our species God inserted crucial components — including an immortal soul, free will, the moral law, spiritual hunger, genuine altruism, etc.


?
 
Watermark said:
Dixie, the solar wind is nothing like an Earth wind. The "wind" part of the name is just a fanciful comparison. Obviously it travels through a void; it's just plasma being ejected from the sun. It doesn't need to travel through a non-vacuum.

Could you ask me less boneheaded questions in the future? Thankyou.
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The solar winds are believed to be caused by the sun, it appears to be plasma particles coming from the corona of the sun, but science has no explanation for the speed of the solar winds, because it defies principles of physics as we understand them. Much like black holes and dark matter, we simply don't have the comprehension to understand them with what we currently understand as science.

So it's not boneheaded at all, it's a relevant question for someone who professes a religious belief in science like yourself. You keep making the idiotic point that I am saying, "Science can't explain it, therefore, GOD!" and I haven't ever made such a statement. What I will say is this... Science can't explain it, therefore we don't KNOW and mustn't conclude!
 
God .. the dumbest thing ever invented by Man.

A "god" we created in our own image.

Why shouldn't a guy who believes in Santa Claus and theories he can't support be in charge of SCIENCE?

amazing
 
Dixie said:
Let me ask you a scientific question... Can you scientifically explain the origin and source of the solar winds? Space is a vacuum, there is no air pressure. Here on Earth, we can determine what causes wind, but how does it occur in the vacuum of space, what causes it, where does it come from? Do you know for certain? Does science have an explanation for this? Clearly it does exist, we've recorded it. So tell me, where does it come from, what causes it, what is the source of origin?
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This is seriously the most retarded thing I've ever heard you ask.

If anyone had any doubt that you were scientifically illiterate, this is proof positive. And no, the speed of the solar winds doesn't defy the laws of physics.
 
Dixie said:
The solar winds are believed to be caused by the sun, it appears to be plasma particles coming from the corona of the sun, but science has no explanation for the speed of the solar winds, because it defies principles of physics as we understand them. Much like black holes and dark matter, we simply don't have the comprehension to understand them with what we currently understand as science.

So it's not boneheaded at all, it's a relevant question for someone who professes a religious belief in science like yourself. You keep making the idiotic point that I am saying, "Science can't explain it, therefore, GOD!" and I haven't ever made such a statement. What I will say is this... Science can't explain it, therefore we don't KNOW and mustn't conclude!
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:lmao:

And you claim to have gone to college.
 
AssHatZombie said:
But you were asking what I thought was unscientific, and i told you it's his conclusions regarding the supernatural. I think you're beginning to get it though.
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you were the one claiming he was "bookending science with his insane and unproveable postulations".....if his "insane and unprovable postulations" are in regards to matters which are supernatural (aka not within the realm of study of science), then how does this interfere with scientific study?.......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
you were the one claiming he was "bookending science with his insane and unproveable postulations".....if his "insane and unprovable postulations" are in regards to matters which are supernatural (aka not within the realm of study of science), then how does this interfere with scientific study?.......
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Everything that could possibly have an effect on your life is within the realm of science. Religion makes scientific claims all the time then says "but it's not within the realm of science!" when someone asks them to back it up. If you say someone was born of a virgin mother, that is a SCIENTIFIC and testable claim. If someone says prayer saved them, that's also a scientific claim. You can test it. It has been tested. Many times. If you say life had to be put on this earth in its present form, that's also a SCIENTIFIC claim. It can be falsified with evidence, and has been. Many times.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Everything that could possibly have an effect on your life is within the realm of science.
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thanks for your opinion....totally worthless to me, but thanks anyway....(/walks away muttering about the danged Scientific Witnesses always pounding on the doors spreading their shit up and down the neighborhood)........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
thanks for your opinion....totally worthless to me, but thanks anyway....(/walks away muttering about the danged Scientific Witnesses always pounding on the doors spreading their shit up and down the neighborhood)........
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Thanks for your thoughtful response. Retard.

The fact is you live in the physical universe. Anything that can effect your life has to effect the physical universe to effect you. Science measures the physical universe. Science can measure whatever effects your life, for this reason. That makes God, if he can effect your life, within the realm of science. If God only acts outside the physical universe, then he cannot act upon your life and effect you in any way.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Everything that could possibly have an effect on your life is within the realm of science. Religion makes scientific claims all the time then says "but it's not within the realm of science!" when someone asks them to back it up. If you say someone was born of a virgin mother, that is a SCIENTIFIC and testable claim. If someone says prayer saved them, that's also a scientific claim. You can test it. It has been tested. Many times. If you say life had to be put on this earth in its present form, that's also a SCIENTIFIC claim. It can be falsified with evidence, and has been. Many times.
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you being retarded has what to do with science?
 
ib1yysguy said:
Thanks for your thoughtful response. Retard.

The fact is you live in the physical universe. Anything that can effect your life has to effect the physical universe to effect you. Science measures the physical universe. Science can measure whatever effects your life, for this reason. That makes God, if he can effect your life, within the realm of science. If God only acts outside the physical universe, then he cannot act upon your life and effect you in any way.
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sure he can.....he can reshape the physical universe any way he wants.....if he made it, he can bend it....now the fact that science can start studying the newly shaped universe hardly means he can't act and effect me.....
 
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