S&P calls out the Republicans!

No. you must get out of the hole FIRST. Can you not see that?
No. Following liberal policies got us into the hole. The politicians who are responsible need to be held accountable or else we can't move out of it, since they want to dig us deeper.

What would you have us do to get out of the hole?
 
No. Following liberal policies got us into the hole. The politicians who are responsible need to be held accountable or else we can't move out of it, since they want to dig us deeper.

What would you have us do to get out of the hole?

That's simple. Work together.
 
“We have changed our assumption​ on this because the majority of Republican​s in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced​ by passing the act.” S&P on why they downgraded the US!

$14.5 trillion going up to $17 trillion.

That's not enough to downgrade?

I'm sure $14.5 trillion going up to $17 trillion in just a little more than a year from now didn't have anything to do with it.

Not at all.

None whatsoever.
 
Well, one of the points S&P made was that the gov't hasn't shown an ability to work together. Or didn't they post that part on the rightie websites?

Why don't the lefties work together with the righties on downsizing government, and start getting rid of some of these job killing departments like the EPA, Obamacare, the department of energy, etc?
 
No. Following liberal policies got us into the hole. The politicians who are responsible need to be held accountable or else we can't move out of it, since they want to dig us deeper.

What would you have us do to get out of the hole?

Marxist/Socialist policies.
 
To do what?

Well the first thing you can do is shut up. You may not agree with Obama's plan. But its the only game going at the moment. You will not get your way fast enough and complete enough to make the slightest difference so let those who are paid to do the job get on and do it. In 2012 you have an election. That is the time to put things right if you believe they are wrong.
That is how democracies are supposed to work.
 
Why don't the lefties work together with the righties on downsizing government, and start getting rid of some of these job killing departments like the EPA, Obamacare, the department of energy, etc?

This is too important to be left to 'lefties' or 'righties'. You have people in the jobs, let them do the job. Believe me, whether the plan is right or wrong it will be better than no plan. It's just as well you have a bunch of opticians in the US because most of you can't see beyond the end of your own snivverling noses.
 
Well the first thing you can do is shut up. You may not agree with Obama's plan. But its the only game going at the moment. You will not get your way fast enough and complete enough to make the slightest difference so let those who are paid to do the job get on and do it. In 2012 you have an election. That is the time to put things right if you believe they are wrong.
That is how democracies are supposed to work.


WHAT FUCKING PLAN????

We've been waiting for nearly THREE years for Obama's "PLAN" and he has YET to deliver one! All we get from Obama is another platitude-filled speech, where he lectures conservatives and blames Bush for his inherited mess! There is no "Obama plan" ...there has never been an "Obama plan!"
 
WHAT FUCKING PLAN????

We've been waiting for nearly THREE years for Obama's "PLAN" and he has YET to deliver one! All we get from Obama is another platitude-filled speech, where he lectures conservatives and blames Bush for his inherited mess! There is no "Obama plan" ...there has never been an "Obama plan!"

His plan is hermetically sealed in a mayonnaise jar on Funk & Wagnell's porch, right next to the jar labelled, "Nixon's Secret Plan to win in Vietnam".
 
One of the biggest dishonest moves by the neocon/teabagger driven GOP and it's pundits and parrots is trying to categorize the ending of the Bush tax cuts for the rich as "raising taxes".

The Bush tax cuts were originally designed to "sunset"....they were a temporary measure to give the rich folks/big business owners breathing room to get their acts together, take in some cash and then reinvest that cash into their businesses (aka jobs for the rest of America).

Well, as history shows, that didn't happen....the rich folk downsized, outsourced and off-shored their tax cut money....and they're not too keen on putting it back into the economy.

Part of the recent "deals" regarding our economic recovery that the Obama administration made was to "extend" the Bush tax cuts DESPITE THE FACT that it keeps billions out of the coffers....the GOP was lock step about this during their filibuster crazed actions in the last two years. Instead, they have this insane notion that if you DON'T create jobs but instead just eliminate social programs, the country will be economically saved.

:confused: Saved for whom, exactly? Because cutting social programs and services, plus destroying unions IS NOT CREATING JOBS, as the people who had the tax breaks to do just that DIDN'T. So, since the Bush tax cuts DID NOT DELIVER, let them sunset and put that money into the coffers so at least you can have federal programs and State programs to create some jobs....because if you don't have a job, you don't buy stuff. And if you don't have any type of social security/medicare to fall back on during old age/tough times, you become even a bigger burden on society (unless we start a "Soylent Green" program).

Nope, the GOP won't have none of that....rich folk must not go back to the Clinton era taxes where they were doing just fine....they can afford to, they just don't want to.

So the S&P (no liberal institution by any means) put the blame where it rightly lays at this crossroads....at the Party of No's feet, and they don't like it. So the neocon spin machine goes into overdrive......pointing to Wall St.'s plunge as justification of their right wingnut rhetoric. Thing is, this recent loss in Wall St. is NOT unique (see 2008)...and when you add the foreign market influence, etc., one has to wonder why everyone is so shocked by this outcome. Repeating numbers that previously weren't announced in such detail when these events happen is just part of the "gee, it's Obama's watch" scenario that all are playing into....but the GOP has been put in the public's crosshairs, and deflection to Obama alone just isn't cutting it.

And the band played on.
 
They weren't 'designed' to sunset, they were passed under the reconciliation clause that set's a 10 year limit on any such budgetary items because of the Byrd Rule.
 
they were a temporary measure to give the rich folks/big business owners breathing room to get their acts together, take in some cash and then reinvest that cash into their businesses (aka jobs for the rest of America).

Then why did they target ALL taxpayers?
 
So the S&P (no liberal institution by any means) put the blame where it rightly lays at this crossroads....at the Party of No's feet, and they don't like it.

No they didn't, and only partisan idiots like you, are running around squawking that they did. Their statement CLEARLY points out that Congress has failed to address the deficit and debt, and THIS was the reason for downgrade. It's the FAULT of Democrats, and Republicans are to blame for not holding their feet to the fire and demanding REAL spending cuts! Bottom line, if we had done what the TEA PARTY suggested two years ago, we wouldn't be in this mess... there would be no talk of downgrade, and we wouldn't have needed to raise the debt ceiling.
 
Well the first thing you can do is shut up. You may not agree with Obama's plan. But its the only game going at the moment. You will not get your way fast enough and complete enough to make the slightest difference so let those who are paid to do the job get on and do it. In 2012 you have an election. That is the time to put things right if you believe they are wrong.
That is how democracies are supposed to work.
I knew you'd fail miserably at this.

Low IQ:
'stop assigning blame and fix the problem'
'fix the problem then worry about who caused it'
'work together'
'shut up and let The Obama fuck you in the ass. That's how a democracy works.'

:rofl:
 
Obviously we need to keep banging the same drum.
Damocles, it doesn't matter whether the report is right or wrong, the damage has been done. Every time someone starts finger pointing and, in all fairness, it does seem to be the right who are guilty of that more than the left,

Dont be absurd. Democrats, starting with the administration, have been broadcasting this as the 'tea party downgrade"
 
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