I'm glad I put that anti-sematic stooge on ignore.
Russia ready for talks. Ukraine must undergo ' denazification '
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I'm glad I put that anti-sematic stooge on ignore.
So, define stronger. I'll wait.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Better than getting in the ring, eh.
There is quite enough of Damo's opinion out there for folks to piece that together. Though it would have started with never giving up energy independence. IMHO, we should never rely on Russia or OPEC to provide energy to these US.
Logic says you can't change the format of a conclusion just because you want to. Either the premise and the conclusion should always be the same or you aren't actually making a logical statement.
I see you couldn't put your money where your mouth is and you didn't stfu. Do you think eating your rubles because they will no longer buy food is putting your money where your mouth is?
I see you decided to not support your claims or stfu. I provided support when I was asked to do so. Are you just a troll as we suspect or will you take the time to provide support for your claim?
Right, according to “RT,” next
What does that have to do with Biden's response to Russian aggression? Nothing. You are Monday morning quarterbacking the last, what, ten administrations? What should Biden have done when Ukraine was invaded? You seem to want to avoid that question.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Putin tells Ukrainian military to ‘take power into their hands’
The Russian president suggests it would be “easier” to negotiate with the Ukrainian Army than with politicians in Kiev
https://www.rt.com/russia/550628-putin-address-ukraine-military-power/
Sensible . Zelensky doesn't look up to the task.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Yes- but that's the Russian viewpoint. It's quite an important component of understanding what's going on. Cyclops was a lousy negotiator.
It's worse than that.
BUMPED OFF BY BUNGLING BIDEN
Wouldn't it be nice if the Europeans had a way to get the fuel they need without depending on Putin?
What if I told you that was in the works, until Bungling Biden bumped it off?
Bungling Biden intended his legacy to be about tackling the "climate crisis".
On his very first day in office, bungling Biden canceled the Keystone XL pipeline project, which was to carry millions of gallons of oil from Canada to refineries in the United States. The executive order canceling Keystone also revoked oil and gas development at national wildlife monuments.
A few months later, bungling Biden lifted sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline planned to carry natural gas from Russia to Germany, and ultimately approved it.
Previous administrations opposed it as increasing German dependence on Russia, and because it would let Russia deprive Ukraine of revenue by circumventing existing gas-transit networks.
As of 2020, Russia supplied roughly 65% of Germany’s natural gas imports and 40% of European Union imported gas.
Italy, which imports some 90% of its gas, is also heavily dependent on Russia.
In the buildup to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, two of Europe’s largest economies – Germany and Italy – worked hard to weaken preemptive sanctions.
Germany refused to terminate the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
Even after Putin purported to recognize Ukrainian provinces as independent countries, Germany merely halted certifying the pipeline. But, it refused to commit to canceling it altogether.
Italy fought to limit threatened sanctions to a few narrow sectors – excluding energy in particular.
Even now, with Russian troops all over Ukraine, the E.U. continues to fight stronger sanctions like excluding Russia from the SWIFT banking system.
Now, let's cast our minds back a month, shall we?
A while ago, an accord between Israel, Greece, and Cyprus was reached whereby an underwater pipeline was planned to stretch 1,180 miles across the Mediterranean Sea, connecting Israeli gas to Cyprus and Greece, and on to Italy.
It was expected to cost about $7 billion, and would have carried 10 billion cubic meters of gas a year initially, with the goal of eventually doubling capacity.
Guess what bungling Biden did?
Citing "environmental concerns", bungling Biden withdrew US support for the EastMed Pipeline in January 2022.
As former defense secretary Robert Gates put it, bungling Biden has been “wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.”
The upshot is that, despite threats of punishing and crippling sanctions, the U.S. and its allies have actually done little, except shoot themselves in the foot.
Now, Europe has to choose between freezing in the long winter, or acquiescing to Putin's depredations.
Thanks, bungling Biden, Putin loves you!
https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/02/biden-killed-the-israel-europe-eastmed-gas-pipeline-hows-that-looking-now/
It doesn't, because that was not the question that was asked and answered.
I think, going forth, it’s going to be very hard for countries to give up their nuclear weapons programs.
This is an absurd question. You should ask the folks that have stated that Biden's response is weak to answer that. I simply point out that you pretend that folks that think our response should have been stronger means they "support Russia", and how that's simply absurd. Simply disagreeing with Concart doesn't mean "support Russia" any more than saying that Biden's response was weaksauce means "support Russia".
There's any number of responses those folks have stated they would have preferred; from stronger sanctions, sanctioning oil sales, etc. all the way up to some idiots who promote military action. None of those mean "support Russia".
Indeed. No single nation will trust any other nation or group of nations saying they will protect them if they are invaded if they just give up their nukes.
Okay, what do you think they mean when they say Biden wasn't tough enough. You're a smart guy. Speculate.
For "speculation" see post number 53.
You are slow, very slow, and incapable of understanding that words which you utter have meaning and often it is the opposite of reality. When folks want a stronger response than the one given there is an infinite number of responses they could offer and none of the stronger responses would ever be considered supporting Russia. There is not one single stronger response that is "support Russia".
Nobody ever again will voluntarily denuke.
aggravated and egged on by US officials on the ground of Independence Square
Kyiv has become almost a client state of the US, and the east isn't happy about it
It's pretty difficult to get the Ukraine Army to negotiate however
Putin is either going to succeed or fail by his own efforts
If he was trying to avoid bloodshed, he shouldn't have illegally invaded a sovereign country.
But I hope Putin sees the sense in ratcheting this thing down. Because Ukrainians aren't going to roll over, and Russian mothers get extremely angry about body bags with young Russian men.