Russia offers Ukraine negotiations for surrender terms.

moon said:
the US will be defeated in another war of its own making in somebody else's back yard.
Russia's security concerns were legitimate. Should have listened to them.
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The consensus and the facts on the ground are that Russia is not winning and Ukraine is never going to surrender.

Putin just signed Russia up for a Vietnam style disaster.
 
Cypress said:
The consensus and the facts on the ground are that Russia is not winning and Ukraine is never going to surrender.

Putin just signed Russia up for a Vietnam style disaster.
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Even worse since he's lost a third of his military, most of them the best he has, in a few short months. He's boxed himself in.
 
https://www.voanews.com/a/latest-developments-in-ukraine-may-13/6569729.html
FIGHTING
* Russia has reportedly lost more than 650 tanks and about 3,000 armored vehicles and heavy equipment in the war so far.
* Russia suffered heavy losses when Ukraine destroyed a pontoon bridge over the Siversky Donets River.
* Ukraine puts a Russian soldier on trial today for alleged war crimes.
HUMANITARIAN
* Teachers in Ukraine are holding classes, sometimes underground, to give their students some sense of support.
* World Central Kitchen reports serving more than 23 million meals and delivering more than 11 million pounds of food.
* A 9-year-old girl is making a miraculous recovery in Lviv from a shrapnel wound to the head.
* Nearly 100 children were killed in Ukraine last month, according to UNICEF.
ECONOMY
* Russian ports have been busy since the invasion began as companies rush to fill orders before sanctions take full effect.
* EU foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell said Friday the bloc will provide an additional 500 million euros worth of military aid to Ukraine.
* Russian inflation topped 17% in April, thanks to its invasion of Ukraine and the ensuing sanctions.
DIPLOMACY
* US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke to his Russian counterpart Friday, the first time since the invasion began.
* Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Friday that Turkey did not have a favorable opinion about Sweden and Finland joining NATO.
* Sweden issued a report Friday criticizing Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and how it affected Sweden’s national security.
* Ukraine’s foreign minister asked G-7 foreign ministers to seize Russian assets and turn them over to Ukraine to help cover the costs of the war.

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Cypress said:
Their performance is shitty and inept.
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YEP, as I have mentioned PUTIN messed up in not understanding the capacity of his military. You can be sure that he lost respect in the eyes of Xi as a result. This will not change the friendship between Russia and China but you can bet every last dollar you have that the Party will redouble its efforts to make sure that they dont make the same mistake.
 
Cypress said:
You were excited for this war to be a showcase for Russian military prowess and proficiency, but what this war actually did is show Russian military ineptness and weakness.

I don't think NATO armed forces have anything to fear from a conventional military engagement with Putin, especially with the addition of the professional and capable Swedish and Finnish armed forces.
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LIAR, I told you what the Russians were up to, what they were planning to do.

No, obviously NATO has nothing to fear from Russia, but NATO sells the lie, which is a huge problem. THe propensity for lying is a symptom of the death of the West.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
YEP, as I have mentioned PUTIN messed up in not understanding the capacity of his military. You can be sure that he lost respect in the eyes of Xi as a result. This will not change the friendship between Russia and China but you can bet every last dollar you have that the Party will redouble its efforts to make sure that they dont make the same mistake.
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But you have routinely blustered about how great your judgement and predictions are.

But on February 24, you just blindly assumed the proficiency and capabilities of the Russian army was totally awesome.
 
Cypress said:
But you have routinely blustered about how great your judgement and predictions are.

But on February 24, you just blindly assumed the proficiency and capabilities of the Russian army was totally awesome.
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I did no such thing, for instance I said that if Ukraine went badly then Putin would be gone.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
LIAR, I told you what the Russians were up to, what they were planning to do.

No, obviously NATO has nothing to fear from Russia, but NATO sells the lie, which is a huge problem. THe propensity for lying is a symptom of the death of the West.
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Russia has enough nuclear weapons to kill 80 to 98% of the people in NATO. That seems like a danger to me.

Putin has alt right supporters, like Hawkeye, who think he is a great savior of the west. That is a danger too.
 
Walt said:
Russia has enough nuclear weapons to kill 80 to 98% of the people in NATO. That seems like a danger to me.

Putin has alt right supporters, like Hawkeye, who think he is a great savior of the west. That is a danger too.
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You are such a liar, I have been saying nonstop for years that Russia has joined The New Chinese Empire which is out to kick our asses because they really hate us, and that they almost certainly will.
 
The WOKE dont mind lying in the least, and they are so good at it with all the practice they have had.

Buckle Up.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I did no such thing, for instance I said that if Ukraine went badly then Putin would be gone.
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In February, you were so convinced of the prowess and capabilities of Russia's military, you were screaming in bold red caps that Ukraine was going to get it's ass kicked.

Hawkeye10 said:
I just got good intel...."We are going to kick the living shit out of the Ukrainians.....YOU DONT POKE THE BEAR!" is the program.
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Hawkeye10 said:
"YOU DO NOT POKE THE RUSSIAN BEAR!"
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Cypress said:
In February, you were so convinced of the prowess and capabilities of Russia's military, you were screaming in bold red caps that Ukraine was going to get it's ass kicked.
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Is English your first language because that would be rather alarming.
 
I am your occasionally humble reporter, when I report on what is I am talking about the true nature of the Universe to the best of my ability.

You have to meet me here before I would be willing to invest into you.

And you have to not be a shit generally.

I dont need anymore of those.
 
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