Was it treason when trump claimed that Obama was born in Kenya?
"Russia Gate" Is Now "Obama Gate".....will lead to deep state arrests (including Obama)
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After a fashion. I don't think "wishing for unicorns" will get me a unicorn but certainly I'm free to wish for said unicorn.
A party that has NO FEDERAL MATCHING FUNDS and has almost no voter base will not generate sufficient funds to mount a serious campaign against the established two parties. I cannot stress enough how much $$$ is an integral part of American politics. It's why the Supreme Court elevated corporations to "person status" in Citizens United. We have engineered a political system by which only two parties get the money, only two parties are encouraged and third parties die on the vine 100% of the time.
No one is suggesting the Greens aren't "real", just that they are as "real" to the outcome of any given election as that unicorn I wished for.
And don't think I'm defending this system. But it is REALPOLITICK for us.
Sure the game of soccer might be more interesting if everyone could use their hands on the ball but them ain't the rules. So any talk of "third party" in America is bound to ultimately fail. Partially by the structure of our political system and partially by our innate nature.
Scott
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I think we agree on this point then.
Sure. Not sure what that has to do with what we were talking about.
Alright, so you -do- agree that the Greens are real, but not legitimate? I agree that they don't stand a chance of winning the elections at present.
You Trump fascists always lie.
Russian agents met with Trump staff in his own building.
Scott
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I have never supported Trump. I still remember when RFK Jr. said he wouldn't be Trump's VP, and he kept his word on that. What I think brought them closer was when Trump was almost assassinated. Considering both RFK Jr.'s uncle -and- father were assassinated, I can see how that happened.
RFK is a nut. His brain was destroyed by worms.
Scott
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Personal attacks are the bane of any productive conversation.
huh? You seem profoundly confused.
Scott
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Saying "RFK is a nut" is clearly a personal attack on RFK Jr.
Clearly it is not. He himself said worms ate part of his brain. Wake up, dopey.
I never said anything about him being 'the lesser of two evils'; his opponents are pure scum, traitors, and criminal sociopaths. His only 'evul' is he was naive in his first term, and trusted the Republican leadership to be honest and willing to do their duty on his winning the nomination and then the election. they were none of those things, hence why so many resigned, before they got tossed out. This term he isn't so naive any more, and knows exactly what kind of filth and sub-human garbage he's dealing with re Democrats and their fellow travellers on the right.
Scott
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Do you really believe that?
No, he didn't. For starters, there was only one worm. Secondly, while it's true that the initial doctor who brought up the possibility that a worm had eaten part of his brain, doctors who later commented on it believe he had a pork tapeworm. Pork tapeworms don't eat the brain, though they can absord nutrients from it. While there's clear evidence that it caused him a lot of cognitive difficulties when it was still alive, he seems to have made a good recovery. Let's not forget that all they found were the remains of a dead worm, and that was way back in 2010.
From the New York Times article that apparently go the ball rolling on this story:
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In the interview with The Times, he said he had recovered from the memory loss and fogginess and had no after effects from the parasite, which he said had not required treatment. Asked last week if any of Mr. Kennedy’s health issues could compromise his fitness for the presidency, Stefanie Spear, a spokeswoman for the Kennedy campaign, told The Times, “That is a hilarious suggestion, given the competition.”
The campaign declined to provide his medical records to The Times. Neither President Biden nor Mr. Trump has released medical records in this election cycle.
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I believe you can see the full article with the following link:
He did. You are lying.
Scott
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That's true. I personally believe he might well have been the lesser of evils when it came to him or Kamala. I still wouldn't have voted for him though.
Well, there I'd have to say it depends on which of his opponents you're referring to. I've already made it clear that I wasn't a fan of Kamala, but Trump has -many- opponents, and some of them I find to be very good people.
If -only- that were true.
It is an accurate description of RFK.
Scott
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No, I said what I believe, but I'm willing to be proven wrong. So, do you have any -evidence- that he said this? Note that you said that -worms- ate part of his brain, not worm. Even if he did say this, the most important thing is what the actual doctor who diagnosed him thought. The initial doctor thought that a -single- worm may have eaten part of his brain. Based on the New York Times article, it would appear that the worm in question didn't eat part of his brain at all, instead just absorbing nutrients from it until it died. Again, here's the article that gets into the details:
All that was just a scheme to get Hillary and Comey's criminal acts off the news cycle. That has been the pattern all along; they get caught red handed at something, then they file charges and suits against Trump and his staff, impeachment hoaxes, etc. The DA's and judges thst go along with that sort of malfeasance need to be arrested and tried as well, under RICO.
Scott
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I don't believe it's an accurate description of anyone. The only time that term is used properly is when people talk about the type of nut you can eat. that's about as far as that goes. If the goal is to disrupt productive discussions though, then personal attacks are definitely quite efficient in that regard.
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Of course you do.When it comes to the war in Ukraine, I certainly think that the west, lead by the U.S., has been the primary aggressor for a long time now. I think the 2014 Euromaidan coup was when things kicked off into high gear. But I certainly don't always agree with Russia's politics. Their views on the LGBTQ movement, for instance:
LGBTQ rights in Russia - Wikipedia
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