"Russia Gate" Is Now "Obama Gate".....will lead to deep state arrests (including Obama)

I can certainly believe that Trump is in the Epstein files, but that doesn't change the fact that Russiagate was a hoax fabricated by the democratic establishment.
So you think Mueller, a Republican, lied? Fascinating.

The Eptein files go beyond left and right- it's clearly part of the Deep State. As to Mueller, there's a good article that I believe touches on his role in Russiagate, which can be seen here:

Mueller is mentioned 19 times in the article. I quote the first 9 times below:
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Introduction

The events commonly described as Russiagate invite invocation of the concept of the “Big Lie,” a lie so staggering in its magnitude and in its consequences that it is less unsettling to believe that it is true than that it is false. In this chapter, I explore the events commonly described as Russiagate to examine some principal features of big lie construction (BLC). The claims that a US presidential candidate, Donald Trump, was in some form or another a dupe of Russia, serving Russian interests, and that his election victory in 2016 was the result of Russian meddling in the US election process, were of staggering, preposterous dimensions. Yet they gathered considerable traction across mainstream media and publics globally. The reports of several reputable investigative journalists, academic studies, judicial inquiries, and the statements of many who were directly involved in the events of Russiagate, have provided strong evidence that the foundational claims were false. In this article I examine some of the processes that help explain why this ‘Big Lie” worked for as long as it did.

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BLC in the case of Russiagate involved sensational claims about a major political figure and celebrity, and the performance on the part of many journalists working for many different media, national and international, talking to a wide range of sources, to ensure that these sensational claims nonetheless possessed prima facie credibility (that they did not, in fact, deserve). The performance was aided and abetted by a sequence of theatrical, diverse, high-level inquiries involving the FBI, House and Senate Intelligence committees, and special counsel Robert Mueller. The fundamental, enabling fraud of BLC (exploiting a two centuries’ old western culture of Russophobia) was the creation of an appearance of diversity, volume, and quantity, that disguised a reality in which a relatively small number of actors across a few prestigious institutions collaborated and, most likely, colluded, in partnership with a small coterie of persistent journalists, to perpetuate a fiction that the President of the USA had colluded with Russia to achieve power. These actors shared a goal, initially, of making Trump unelectable and, when that failed, to make it difficult for him to govern as he might otherwise have done, and to win a second term.

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The Steele dossier was significantly discredited in April 2019, when it became clear that Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller and his team of prosecutors and FBI agents were unable to find evidence in support of any of its more sensational claims.

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The cross-contamination of intelligence-related key sources in 2016 embraced both the supposedly independent former FBI Director (Robert Mueller) - principal investigator of potential wrong-doing, appointed on May 16, 2017; James Comey, Director of the FBI, and a friend of Mueller who had immediately preceded him as Director; the Director of the CIA, John Brennon, head of the nation’s foremost icon of intelligence and national security; and the Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper. Although the office of the attorney general and the FBI are accountable to the Department of Justice, a supposedly impartial and independent investigator (Mueller) was appointed who had very close relations at numerous levels with the FBI, itself a major contributor to Russiagate claims. The most notable voice in the US intelligence community that might have taken a contrary position, Director of the National Security Agency, Mike Rogers, was missing at these early stages. It is notable that Mueller had been officially appointed by deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein. Rosenstein had been appointed to office only one month prior, in April 2017, and had recommended to his boss, attorney general Jeff Sessions at the Department of Justice, that Comey be fired because the “FBI's reputation and credibility” had “suffered substantial damage.”

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FBI, CrowdStrike and the emails of the DNC and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC)

Successful propaganda typically makes a great play at being truthful, which enhances its credibility, while at the same time obfuscating or marginalizing certain information that, were it to be foregrounded, would likely change the public’s evaluation of the propagandist’s principal concerns. The first part of the Mueller report was devoted mainly to allegations of Russian hacking of DNC and DCCC emails. Alternative sources of evidence - largely ignored by Mueller - suggested that the emails may have either been leaked by an insider rather than hacked or, that they were both leaked and hacked, though not necessarily by Russians (McGovern, 2019). Mueller declined to interview major sources who would have provided evidence against the DNC, FBI, and others’ presumptions as to Russian involvement in the alleged hacking of the DNC. These included William Binney, a former high-ranking official of the National Security Agency; Ray McGovern, a former CIA analyst working for its Russia division and, with Binney, a founder member of Veterans of Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS); Craig Murray, a former British diplomat who claimed knowledge of at least one party involved in a leak; and Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks, who denied that Russian agencies had been his source, and whose statements indicated he knew who might have been. Hacking allegations invited scepticism in the light of NSA-whistle-blower Edward Snowden’s 2013 revelations of the leaking of the CIA’s “Vault Seven” toolbox, including “Marble Framework”, that enabled the agency to camouflage hacking by false attribution and masking of the real source.
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lol run along; your bosses are on their way to prison. You need to find another cult.
You are in a cult. I have never been in one. Hillary would have been an excellent president. Trump wants to make America into something else, a plutocracy.

Personally, I don't see why either of you have to be in a cult. I'm also not a fan of Hillary -or- Trump. I would have voted for neither when they ran against each other back in 2016 were I American. So while I agree with you that what Trump wants to do to America generally isn't good (I think there are some exceptions, as exemplified by work done by RFK JR. and Tulsi Gabard), I feel that Hillary would have also led the U.S. down a dark path as well.
 
Personally, I don't see why either of you have to be in a cult. I'm also not a fan of Hillary -or- Trump. I would have voted for neither when they ran against each other back in 2016 were I American. So while I agree with you that what Trump wants to do to America generally isn't good (I think there are some exceptions, as exemplified by work done by RFK JR. and Tulsi Gabard), I feel that Hillary would have also led the U.S. down a dark path as well.
So, you are a right winger.
 
Are you Trumpys that stupid? Trump has had it passed that presidents cannot be prosecuted for things they do while in office. I know, to Trumpys, he is not responsible, but all the other presidents are.
 
Personally, I don't see why either of you have to be in a cult. I'm also not a fan of Hillary -or- Trump. I would have voted for neither when they ran against each other back in 2016 were I American. So while I agree with you that what Trump wants to do to America generally isn't good (I think there are some exceptions, as exemplified by work done by RFK JR. and Tulsi Gabard), I feel that Hillary would have also led the U.S. down a dark path as well.
So, you are a right winger.

No, I'm a political hybrid that is generally averse to mainstream parties, because I find they are generally far too corrupt for my tastes. The ones I -do- like, like Bernie Sanders or RFK Jr., generally don't even become nominees for the mainstream party they try out for. In Bernie's case, he reverted to being independent. In RFK Jr.'s case, he decided to work under Trump. I think they both do good work. I also think they both have their flaws. But people like them, I'd vote for.
 
Personally, I don't see why either of you have to be in a cult. I'm also not a fan of Hillary -or- Trump. I would have voted for neither when they ran against each other back in 2016 were I American.

In America there is no legitimate 3rd party option. So you either vote for one of the evils or your vote goes "de-facto" to one of them.

It's a sad state of affairs but it is the calculus we have to go through. The only time I ever voted third party was back in 2000 when I lived in a very deeeeply blue state and I knew the electors would go to Gore (whom I supported) rather than Bush. So I voted Green in hopes of the Green party getting enough votes to get federal matching funds in later elections thus leading to at least a nominally stronger third party option. No luck though.

Unfortunately when it comes to Trump as we've seen a vote for Trump or a de facto vote that went to Trump resulted in some pretty horrible things for America. Half of Americans knew he was a grifter and an incompetent in this space but we were not enough to get past the electoral college.



So while I agree with you that what Trump wants to do to America generally isn't good (I think there are some exceptions, as exemplified by work done by RFK JR. and Tulsi Gabard), I feel that Hillary would have also led the U.S. down a dark path as well.

Hillary may be a complete bitch and probably a horrible person IRL, she is still a seasoned and experienced governmental administrator who is pretty damn smart. There's NO WAY she would have done as much damage to the US as Trump has just done in 6 short months.

The reason we on the Left suggest the MAGA folks are in a "cult" is because they will go to ABSURD lengths to cover for their leader who is a 34-time convicted felon, who has had to pay countless millions in out-of-court settlements for fraud, who has run 6 businesses into the ground, who has raped a woman. And further they will characterize the last 6 months as the best America has EVER experienced. EVER.

They are in a cult because they have left reality long ago.
 
Personally, I don't see why either of you have to be in a cult. I'm also not a fan of Hillary -or- Trump. I would have voted for neither when they ran against each other back in 2016 were I American.
In America there is no legitimate 3rd party option. So you either vote for one of the evils or your vote goes "de-facto" to one of them.

I disagree with you, on both of your assertions. There are certainly legitimate 3rd party options. The fact that they don't currently have enough votes to win in a general election doesn't take away from their legitimacy. And no, not voting for candidates you don't like doesn't actually mean that your vote goes "de-facto" to any candidate. I'm not American, but I -am- Canadian. I was still in Canada when they held the federal election of 2021. I decided that none of the parties were worth my vote, not even ones that stood virtually 0 chance of winning. That doesn't mean I wasn't politically active in the past, far from it. I've -campaigned- for candidates I believed in. I just didn't believe in any federal candidate in 2021, so I decided my best option was to simply not vote.
 
So while I agree with you that what Trump wants to do to America generally isn't good (I think there are some exceptions, as exemplified by work done by RFK JR. and Tulsi Gabard), I feel that Hillary would have also led the U.S. down a dark path as well.
Hillary may be a complete bitch and probably a horrible person IRL, she is still a seasoned and experienced governmental administrator who is pretty damn smart. There's NO WAY she would have done as much damage to the US as Trump has just done in 6 short months.

I'm not so sure. I heard she's the one who encouraged Obama to bomb Libya. That didn't go so well:

From what I could see, she was bought and paid for:

Had she suddenly become in charge of the U.S.'s war with Russia via Ukraine, I think it's possible that the U.S. might be exchanging nukes with Russia by now. Fortunately, it looks like we'll never know.
 
No, I'm a political hybrid that is generally averse to mainstream parties, because I find they are generally far too corrupt for my tastes. The ones I -do- like, like Bernie Sanders or RFK Jr., generally don't even become nominees for the mainstream party they try out for. In Bernie's case, he reverted to being independent. In RFK Jr.'s case, he decided to work under Trump. I think they both do good work. I also think they both have their flaws. But people like them, I'd vote for.
RFK is clearly insane. Not joking.
 
Barack Obama and his Deep State officials created a fake narrative that Trump had colluded in the Russia Gate hoax.

Folks, that's called TREASON, and the story will end with Barack Hussein Obama in prison.

Also look to see indictments coming to the Obama officials at his national security cabinet for James Comey, John
Brennan, James Clapper, Susan Rice and others.

Pretty sure this treasonous bombshell story has been posted here before, but in case it hasn't, I will repeat it for all
those lefties that had actually known about Obama's treasonous actions, but failed to talk about it.


You are an idiot. Gabbard failed miserably by releasing snippets of a report that haas nothing to do with the fact that Putin was found to have attempted to aid trump in the election.

Did I mention you are an idiot?
 
No, I'm a political hybrid that is generally averse to mainstream parties, because I find they are generally far too corrupt for my tastes. The ones I -do- like, like Bernie Sanders or RFK Jr., generally don't even become nominees for the mainstream party they try out for. In Bernie's case, he reverted to being independent. In RFK Jr.'s case, he decided to work under Trump. I think they both do good work. I also think they both have their flaws. But people like them, I'd vote for.
RFK is clearly insane. Not joking.

We clearly disagree.
 
Barack Obama and his Deep State officials created a fake narrative that Trump had colluded in the Russia Gate hoax.

Folks, that's called TREASON, and the story will end with Barack Hussein Obama in prison.

Also look to see indictments coming to the Obama officials at his national security cabinet for James Comey, John
Brennan, James Clapper, Susan Rice and others.

Pretty sure this treasonous bombshell story has been posted here before, but in case it hasn't, I will repeat it for all
those lefties that had actually known about Obama's treasonous actions, but failed to talk about it.


You are an idiot. Gabbard failed miserably by releasing snippets of a report that haas nothing to do with the fact that Putin was found to have attempted to aid trump in the election.

Did I mention you are an idiot?

I just wrote a post in another thread on the effect of using words like idiot in a conversation in response to someone on the right. It's here, if you're interested:

In any case, you make the assertion that "Putin was found to have attempted to aid trump in the election". Do you have any evidence to back this up?

From what I've read, this claim is patently false. The claim that Obama was deeply involved in perpetuating this false narrative, however, appears to be quite genuine:
 
I disagree with you, on both of your assertions. There are certainly legitimate 3rd party options. The fact that they don't currently have enough votes to win in a general election doesn't take away from their legitimacy. And no, not voting for candidates you don't like doesn't actually mean that your vote goes "de-facto" to any candidate. I'm not American, but I -am- Canadian. I was still in Canada when they held the federal election of 2021. I decided that none of the parties were worth my vote, not even ones that stood virtually 0 chance of winning. That doesn't mean I wasn't politically active in the past, far from it. I've -campaigned- for candidates I believed in. I just didn't believe in any federal candidate in 2021, so I decided my best option was to simply not vote.

Trump IS a 'third party' candidate'. He just raided the GOP and got a lot of votes from people who hated both parties, is all. The RNC hated him as much as the DNC criminal syndicate hates him. Wall Street hates him, hundreds of the biggest corporations hate him, and he ended up having them by the balls. This is why I laugh at the morons who claim they're against billionaires and Big Capitalism N Stuff while voting for Democrats and RNC shills.

What you really mean is you're a narcissist who hates anybody who doesn't pander to you and your specific fantasies and political nonsense, is all, same as most other Burb Brats, especially left wing ones.
 
I just wrote a post in another thread on the effect of using words like idiot in a conversation in response to someone on the right. It's here, if you're interested:

In any case, you make the assertion that "Putin was found to have attempted to aid trump in the election". Do you have any evidence to back this up?

From what I've read, this claim is patently false. The claim that Obama was deeply involved in perpetuating this false narrative, however, appears to be quite genuine:
"Historians will conclude that Biden was the worst President in American history....Except for maybe Obama":

Martin A. Armstrong: NATO Plans MASSIVE Troop Surge into Ukraine​

 
You are an idiot. Gabbard failed miserably by releasing snippets of a report that haas nothing to do with the fact that Putin was found to have attempted to aid trump in the election.

Did I mention you are an idiot?

You're saying it's a fact that Putin attempted to aid Trump in the election? That one ridiculously false statement from you seals
the fact that you're the forum's #1 'IDIOT'
 
You're saying it's a fact that Putin attempted to aid Trump in the election? That one ridiculously false statement from you seals
the fact that you're the forum's #1 'IDIOT'
Until you actually read up on the topic, you are not qualified to make any posts to me.

Now go do your homework while I decide if I'm ready to put you on the list.
 
I can certainly believe that Trump is in the Epstein files, but that doesn't change the fact that Russiagate was a hoax fabricated by the democratic establishment.

Nope. The Mueller report clearly found that the Russians attempted to interfere in the election on behalf of the Toadfstool. The fact that the (D)s used these facts as campaign items doesn't mean that they made them up.
 
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