Rump caves on Syria!

what kind of a brainless factless fuck would now try to pretend the Democratic party was NOT against the march to war in Iraq and why


this is who the republican party is


they fuck things all up and then pretend they didn't
 
evince said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/26/opinion/an-iraq-war-won-t-destabilize-the-mideast.html



An Iraq War Won't Destabilize the Mideast
By REUEL MARC GERECHTNOV. 26, 2002

Arguments against a war in Iraq often revolve around the belief that an American invasion would destabilize the Middle East. According to this critique, the region is a powder keg of instability that a war, with all its inevitable unintended consequences, could well ignite. The Arab street would rise, radical Islamist recruiters would benefit from yet another grievance and Iraq's fractious citizens -- Arab Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds -- would possibly crack their country apart. Those cracks would spread throughout the region.
But a war with Iraq might not shake up the Middle East much at all. Most regimes in the area are too stable, strong and clever. For example, President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt appears to be vastly more adept than was Mohammed Reza Pahlevi, the shah of Iran. The shah allowed the clerical establishment considerable independence -- and Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini used the mosques and religious schools to build his network of revolutionary mullahs. Mr. Mubarak, by contrast, has thoroughly co-opted his religious hierarchy. The Egyptian people may riot over bread subsidies. They hit the streets in great numbers to mourn the passing of a beloved singer. They have not once set Egypt ablaze over the travails of the Palestinians or the bellicose actions of the United States. And Egypt, with its densely urban, youthful and homogeneous population, is perhaps the most likely state in the Middle East to succumb to a popular dissatisfaction rising from the streets.
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Not an argument.

evince said:
remember us telling you going after Sadam would unleash a life long mess in the Middle east ?
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No, I don't.

LINK
 
Cypress said:
I actually sympathize with the sentiment of removing US ground forces from Syria, though Trump obviously put no thought into this and merely issued the order to withdraw based on his attempted manipulation of the news cycle, and to distract from all the news of corruption in his administration.

I always thought Obama had the right idea about being very judicious, and limiting the amount of boots on the ground - aka, ground combat forces - in Arab conflicts. On balance, a wise choice - one you would expect from politician who always knew invading Iraq was a dumb ass idea.

Unfortunately, Trump escalated our presence in Syria. But whatever mistakes the dim-witted and clueless Trumpf made, I still am in favor to judiciously reducing and withdrawing US ground forces from Arab civil war conflicts.
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Obama wasn't being judicious. He got outplayed by Assad. Nobody--absolutely nobody--saw coming his killing off of the moderates rebel groups first so the only choice was between him or ISIS controlling Syria. At that point, "Assad must go" became "Assad must eventually go" and the can kicking began.
 
Kacper said:
Obama wasn't being judicious. He got outplayed by Assad. Nobody--absolutely nobody--saw coming his killing off of the moderates rebel groups first so the only choice was between him or ISIS controlling Syria. At that point, "Assad must go" became "Assad must eventually go" and the can kicking began.
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But I have zero doubt that you were undoubtedly in favor of invading Iraq, and have never since fessed up to your mistake, so your opinion on US military options in the Middle East can be dismissed out of hand.
 
Quetzalcoatl said:
Why did you lie about me Desh?
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Billy

remember my letters to you when I sent you my subpar cookies ( sorry about that)?


I clearly didn't like this lying to war


Im sorry you had t carry that brunt of that stupid


come on dude



I was correct huh


you obviously vote republican more than I do huh


if you are against their idiot lies then stop voting for them and embracing their lie filled crap


libertarian ideas are in line with and just as fucking stupid as the republican ones

back before you got deployed we were on opposite sides huh
 
Jarod said:
I wonder what Lindsey Graham threatened him with?
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What is your position on troops in Syria? For or against?

Or are you just interested in finding anything you can to criticize Trump? I know the stock market isn't cooperating the last two days so you need to find something else. Don't worry, I am sure that there will be some down days in the market for you to glom onto
 
I Love America said:
What is your position on troops in Syria? For or against?

Or are you just interested in finding anything you can to criticize Trump? I know the stock market isn't cooperating the last two days so you need to find something else. Don't worry, I am sure that there will be some down days in the market for you to glom onto
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Post Number 22:

I support bringing our troops home, eventually, but once in a situation like we created in Syria, it must be done carefully and correctly. You don't just leave like Rump said he was going to do last month. The guy is a fool and we lose international respect when he behaves like this. It looks to me, now, like he is trying to do it correctly. I just wish we did not have to go through the threat to abandon our allies in the field to get here. Why does Rump do such awful things, only to capitulate.

He started with his Muslim ban, defending his claim that he would Ban All Muslims from entering the nation, and ending with a ban on a few Countries. (What I pointed out was the only thing he could do from the start).

He loses any dignity by refusing the study a situation before he makes some insane claim first.
 
Cypress said:
But I have zero doubt that you were undoubtedly in favor of invading Iraq, and have never since fessed up to your mistake, so your opinion on US military options in the Middle East can be dismissed out of hand.
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Your approval means as little as your knowledge base.
 
Jarod said:
Post Number 22:

I support bringing our troops home, eventually, but once in a situation like we created in Syria, it must be done carefully and correctly. You don't just leave like Rump said he was going to do last month. The guy is a fool and we lose international respect when he behaves like this. It looks to me, now, like he is trying to do it correctly. I just wish we did not have to go through the threat to abandon our allies in the field to get here. Why does Rump do such awful things, only to capitulate.

He started with his Muslim ban, defending his claim that he would Ban All Muslims from entering the nation, and ending with a ban on a few Countries. (What I pointed out was the only thing he could do from the start).

He loses any dignity by refusing the study a situation before he makes some insane claim first.
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So you agree with Trump bringing troops home from Obama/Clinton clusterfuck? That is all I needed to know
 
Oneuli said:
No. I've got to admit, it was pretty uncomfortable to find myself on the same side of the issue as you wingnuts who reflexively say anything Trump does is right. That's some pretty sordid company. So it's weirdly a relief to have Trump flip-flop on this issue, taking his butt-licking brigade with him.
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There you go with the moronic strawmen again; I don't think you are capable of posting without looking stupid, lying and bloviating strawmen.
 
kudzu said:
ISIS came out of Camp Bucca prison Iraq in 2004 and gained speed in Fallujah when Maliki discriminated against the Sunni city..

You are not only stupid, you're rude.
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No they didn't, you dumb fuck.

You're not just stupid, but a whiny lying dumbass.
 
Jarod said:
I support bringing our troops home, eventually, but once in a situation like we created in Syria, it must be done carefully and correctly. You don't just leave like Rump said he was going to do last month.
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Fascinating; yet when Obama did it you cheered like a brain dead twat.

Jarod said:
The guy is a fool and we lose international respect when he behaves like this. It looks to me, now, like he is trying to do it correctly. I just wish we did not have to go through the threat to abandon our allies in the field to get here. Why does Rump do such awful things, only to capitulate.
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Ironic coming from a fool who seldom gets much of anything right and bloviates like a lying leftist partisan hack on steroids.

Jarod said:
He started with his Muslim ban, defending his claim that he would Ban All Muslims from entering the nation, and ending with a ban on a few Countries. (What I pointed out was the only thing he could do from the start).
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There you go with the lies again; being liberal, it comes naturally. He never had a "Muslim" ban. But then, lying is all you whiny, pathetic low IQ liberals have left.

Jarod said:
He loses any dignity by refusing the study a situation before he makes some insane claim first.
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More irony from someone with ZERO dignity.
 
Brad still hasn't provided any factual substantiation for his thread title. I think I know why.
 
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