Rubio - no exceptions for rape & incest?

Stop asking the damn question. You lefties have asked it for 43 years now, and when conservatives give a pro-life answer you use it against them. And when they win, they don't do anything about it anyway. If any of them said they were okay with the stupid rape and incest argument, would that change your vote? Would you actually ever say "I'm okay with abortion ONLY in cases of rape and incest, or medical emergency with informed consent of the mother"(I threw that last part in because I'm feeling generous). Would you be satisfied with that? Hell no you wouldn't. If that ever happened, one of two things would occur almost immediately: 1) The number of rapes and abortions in this country would skyrocket exponentially, and any country that doesn't already think we're a bunch of inbred gun totin' hicks would look upon us in abject horror, and 2) If the law was followed 100% of the time, the number of rapes and abortions in this country would drop to almost zero faster than the price of a barrel of oil and "planned" parenthood would close its doors for a dearth of customers. So stop trying to scare women with this crap, they have enough to worry about if the hilldebeast or the commie win the election.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
If you want to keep the discussion scientific, the proper word is 'viable'. Living things are categorized according to genus/species, again according to science. If you want to share your philosophy I believe there's a forum for that.
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you have proven yourself to be utterly incompetent. A cell is the basic form of life. Cells ARE viable. They are living organisms. I have no clue how a grown adult lacks the knowledge that a cell is a living thing, but.. here we are.
 
Jarod said:
Yes, I think a LOT of moderates, especially women who are told that even if they were raped, Rubio would regally require them to spend 9 months pregnant and to bring a result of their victimization into the world as an infant that would require care. IN many states the rapist would then be allowed to claim parental rights.
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This is just stupid. Rubio can't require a woman to do anything apart from the law.
 
cawacko said:
I'm re-reading your post here and maybe I misunderstood the first time. If you are saying someone who votes based on the abortion issue and is pro-choice thus won't for a Republican then I agree with you.

I would say there are those voters for whom abortion isn't the number one issue, such as pro-choice Republicans, but could view Rubio's position here as more to the right than they would like. I can't say how big of an affect it might have but I'm sure it will come into play.
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That's what I was saying. If abortion is your issue, you won't vote for any pro life republican- period. Moderate republicans don't tend care one way or another on the abortion issue.
 
Yes, since R v W, republican presidential candidates have been required to give lip service to the anti-choice movement, then do nothing once elected.
 
Jarod said:
Yes, since R v W, republican presidential candidates have been required to give lip service to the anti-choice movement, then do nothing once elected.
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They say they are for or against it, but a president can only uphold the law, or not enforce it. You've had no problem with Obama not enforcing laws.
 
Jarod said:
Why does the acceptability of an abortion changed based on the intent of the father, the family relationship between the parents, or the willingness of the mother?
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It would not be. If you believe it is a child, then the child should not face a death sentence. Those who truly believe that a fetus at any stage is a child would not actually be for abortion even in those cases.
 
evince said:
a baby dies not need to be killed for any logical reason.


a zygote inhabits a human body.


the person who owns that body has control over what goes on inside that body
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Evidently not, or else a person wouldn't become pregnant and feel the need to abort, anyway.
 
Jarod said:
I know quite a few Pro-Choice people who vote Republican. They don't see it as an important issue and agree with the Republicans on economic issues.
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I'm one of those. It's not that abortion isn't an important issue; it's that abortion is out of the hands of the president. That said, a president can hope to install prolife Supreme Court justices, but who knows how that will turn out once they get in.

Economy and jobs, immigration, the Islamic terrorist threat---all of those currently trump abortion amongst many prolife voters.
 
Patrick Bateman said:
you have proven yourself to be utterly incompetent. A cell is the basic form of life. Cells ARE viable. They are living organisms. I have no clue how a grown adult lacks the knowledge that a cell is a living thing, but.. here we are.
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Dude, not all cells are organisms. Single-celled organisms are species of animals or plants whereas muscle cells or skin cells aren't. Go read a biology book.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
I'm one of those. It's not that abortion isn't an important issue; it's that abortion is out of the hands of the president. That said, a president can hope to install prolife Supreme Court justices, but who knows how that will turn out once they get in.

Economy and jobs, immigration, the Islamic terrorist threat---all of those currently trump abortion amongst many prolife voters.
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I wouldn't call it unimportant issue either but it is far, far, far, far down on my list of priorities and it is also used as a wedge issue in divide and conquer politics to distract people from the fact that politicians are running away with your money or making important economic decisions that are not in the publics best interest.

As far as the rape/incest argument goes. As far as I'm concerned that's a decision between a woman and her conscience and is NONE OF MY DAMNED BUSINESS.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I wouldn't call it unimportant issue either but it is far, far, far, far down on my list of priorities and it is also used as a wedge issue in divide and conquer politics to distract people from the fact that politicians are running away with your money or making important economic decisions that are not in the publics best interest.

As far as the rape/incest argument goes. As far as I'm concerned that's a decision between a woman and her conscience and is NONE OF MY DAMNED BUSINESS.
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I agree with your first paragraph. Abortion is a wedge issue [one of many] where voting has little practical effect.
 
Legion Troll said:
Should the victims of rape be forced to carry their attacker's child to term?
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I personally would since to me it's still a baby regardless. The way the baby is conceived doesn't make it less human in my opinion. As for forcing a woman that was raped to carry to term I'd rather that be a state by state thing. I understand why a woman would want to not continue a pregnancy due to rape but I also would hope that they would consider that the baby is also part of them and can still have a good life with you as their mom or with an adopted family.
 
Eno L. Camino said:
Evidently not, or else a person wouldn't become pregnant and feel the need to abort, anyway.
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why would you say this completely stupid thing?


asking human beings not to do what nature designed humans to do makes you an evil idiot.


rape is a crime


people sometimes are the victim of crimes
 
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