Rove; Trump unfit for the Office

Nomad said:
I have to agree with you, not so much about Thing1 personally, but people who backed both Sanders and Trump in general.

They got so stuck on this notion of "NEW IDEAS!!!!", that they completely ignored the fact that just because an idea is new, doesn't make it good, and just because an idea is old, doesn't make it bad.

The obsession with "new ideas" that was so pervasive in 2016, is what gave us Trump. It got fewer people to vote for Hillary and got more people to vote for Trump.
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I agree too. The had no excuse to hate Hilary.

Blacks whom overwhelmingly voted for Clinton in the general forgave her for the mistakes she owned up to regarding the PIC. We knew the consequences of a dump presidency would be especially hurtful for us and other minorities.

I can also see how the protection of complexion can allow some people to take a chance with dump because it wouldn't hurt them as much.

All in all, they stole this election, it's clear as day she got more votes. And for me and my people, it was business as usual. Another white man stealing an election because he can.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Does that include "hope and change"??
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No it does not.

Every campaign on both sides adopts campaign slogans. Just like MAGA was nothing more than a catchy sounding slogan.

The big difference is that Obama came closer to fulfilling the underlying meaning of his than just about any other modern President.

Trump's BS about making America great again is not only empty words, it's an outright lie.

He's doing the exact opposite.
 
anatta said:
That was me. sanders and then Trump.
If it would have been Trump vs.sanders I really am not sure where I would have gone.

I liked sanders for his idea that income inequality is major problem in this country and world ( 1%'rs)
also Single Pay.
But sanders was basically a pacifist -unwilling to do anything on foreign policy without a "coalition"
America has to lead -like it or not.

Trump is against regime change - fantastic after Bush/Obama- America First is a superior idea also.

Clinton was a globalist & interventionist stuck with big donor ties, who had no ideas and unlike both sanders and Trump supported the TPP ( Kasich is also a big supporter of the TPP)..

Of all the candidates Trump has the best ideas summed up as "America first/MAGA" -
not globalism of Sanders and Clinton..

Now if Trump can grow up/man up and kill the idiotic tweeting and grow into the presidency we might take pre-eminent leadership in the 21st century despite the Democratic "resistance" to doing so.
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Who are you trying to fool? It would have been dump all the way with you.

You racist pricks stick together
 
TTQ64 said:
I agree too. The had no excuse to hate Hilary.

Blacks whom overwhelmingly voted for Clinton in the general forgave her for the mistakes she owned up to regarding the PIC. We knew the consequences of a dump presidency would be especially hurtful for us and other minorities.

I can also see how the protection of complexion can allow some people to take a chance with dump because it wouldn't hurt them as much.

All in all, they stole this election, it's clear as day she got more votes. And for me and my people, it was business as usual. Another white man stealing an election because he can.
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Do they not teach the basics of how our country works in schools anymore? We've had an electoral college as long as we've been a country. How do people still not know this?
 
Nomad said:
No it does not.

Every campaign on both sides adopts campaign slogans. Just like MAGA was nothing more than a catchy sounding slogan.

The big difference is that Obama came closer to fulfilling the underlying meaning of his than just about any other modern President.

Trump's BS about making America great again is not only empty words, it's an outright lie.

He's doing the exact opposite.
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Just like MAGA was nothing more than a catchy sounding slogan
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One that he stole from Reagan.......he's not smart enough to think of his own slogan.
 
cawacko said:
Do they not teach the basics of how our country works in schools anymore? We've had an electoral college as long as we've been a country. How do people still not know this?
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Of course we do. It allows racist white men to steal elections.

Otherwise, you people would never win.
 
TTQ64 said:
Of course we do. It allows racist white men to steal elections.

Otherwise, you people would never win.
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You've said every President before Obama was racist. What non racist would have won a Presidential election prior to Obama if we had a popular vote?
 
Thing1 said:
I gave EVERYTHING real. Hillary, like her husband, is one of the most politically expedient public-office seekers in history. She had NO COHERENT MESSAGE - even when I asked you what it was, you gave a generic, lame response about traditional Dem policies. Hillary also has issues w/ the truth, as is well documented.

Beyond all of that, she voted FOR the Iraq Resolution. She & other Democrats were the last line of defense for the left when it came to that war, and they took the coward's way out. Your rationalization that "Bush lied to her" is pathetic. We all know what Bush was doing. Why didn't she? Are you saying she's ignorant? No one who is against war & that war in particular should be engaged in the kind of apologist excuse-making that you habitually do for her. It is so sad. You are NOT anti-war, and you cannot claim to be an opponent of the Iraq War by excusing that vote. You are just someone who sees a (D) and will make any excuse you can, no matter how egregious the offense.

The fact that you call me some kind of phony or try to imply that I lack principles is the height of irony. You will compromise on ANY principle, as long as it is a Democrat.
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Op is about Trump
 
TTQ64 said:
Who are you trying to fool? It would have been dump all the way with you.

You racist pricks stick together
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I am certainly completely and utterly unconcerned with reasoning with an ignorant partisan & racist
too boot such as yourself
 
Thing1 said:
LOL - like you wouldn't have been all over it if ANYONE on the left had criticized Obama or Hillary like this. I'm sure you actually were w/ Hillary, since plenty on the left did criticize her.
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sorry but you are incorrect. You are seeming to suggest that rove and trump should be on the same team. They are not and never have been. Trump essentially ran against republicans almost as much as he ran against the democrats. There was a whole nevertrump movement and rove was apart of it. He's never been team trump so to insinuate trump is being criticized by "one of his own" is false.

The bottom line is there are many greedy globalist republicans that want a one world government so they can have their war profiteering and make billions all over the planet. Trump is a populist and a nationalist and this is completely opposite to the views of rove and bush and co. Look at how butthurt Jeb was and how beat up he got. Of course rove wouldn't like trump.

Trump is the closest thing we have to a new bull moose type third party.

There is FAR more in common with rove and the democrats than rove and trump.
 
anatta said:
the grotesque stupidity on constant display, coupled with constant hatred towards non-progressive whites
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Be specific when you try to quote me.

It's RACIST WHITE MEN AND THEIR SUPPORTERS not non-progressive whites because that would be a lie.
 
Thing1 said:
It's only the hardcore Dem minority who don't believe there were serious issues w/ her campaign.

You are in that group.
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Only problem was her charisma deficit. All campaigns are vacuous pablum. Hers was less of that than most. Trump won because he was the most flawed candidate in history not in spite of it. Apparently Charles Manson was unavailable. Enjoy your middle finger to D.C. And the most failed president in history.
 
Nomad said:
I wonder how much of it stems from loyalty to the Bush family and paybacks for how badly Trump carved up JEB! during the primaries.
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I thought of this too. I hate rove and company, but less so since they clearly think the president should project some minimal amount of dignity and intelligence.

I guess the Republicans like guys who go worldwide wrestling with Montenegro and grab pussy a lot. Classy!
 
TTQ64 said:
Be specific when you try to quote me.

It's RACIST WHITE MEN AND THEIR SUPPORTERS not non-progressive whites because that would be a lie.
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who gives a damn about your supposed specificity. You paint with a broad brush of a racist.
 
anatta said:
who gives a damn about your supposed specificity. You paint with a broad brush of a racist.
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No I don't. I call out racist white men like you. You want me to include others, but they aren't the problem.

It's racist white men and their supporters who have been in charge of this country. That's a fact that can not be disputed.

 
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