Reuters: White House TOLD OF militant claim two hours after LIBYA ATTACK, emails show

Pretending that a report about what a terrorist group says on Facebook and Twitter 2 hours after the attack is (1) the truth (note that the same group later disclaimed responsibility) or (2) the considered judgment of the CIA and the intelligence community is tremendously stupid.

The considered judgment of the CIA for 11 days after the attack was that it was a spontaneous event following the protests in Cairo. And, yes, the matter was (and is) still under investigation.

It's not a report about what a group said on facebook. There are EMAILS which reveal the White House had been notified this was a TERRORIST ATTACK and NOT a "spontaneous uprising" as Carney continued to bark for two more weeks. You people are fucking AMAZING... Last week you were all trying to claim Obama clearly called this a terrorist attack in his Rose Garden speech on 9/12. Now we're having to revert back and believe they didn't have all the information and it was being investigated and no one really knew what it was? Can't you people make up your minds? I guess that's why Rana is now trying to find a way to claim it's BOTH... They knew it was a terrorist attack but they didn't know! They knew it was planned and coordinated by an alQaeda group, but they didn't know! They KNEW they could probably save the Ambassador, but they weren't sure! They claimed they had diminished alQaeda's ability to launch such attacks, but they can't admit that was wrong, so this somehow HAS to be BOTH!

Go fucking look up the word SOCIOPATH please?
 
Clearly you cannot read the transcript of the press conference. AS I stated, he hedges by saying 'EVERYTHING is still under investigation' but he goes ON to say over and over and over again that it is all due to the video. The press called him out on it and he even ended the conference with the 'we have no evidence it WASNT the video.'

But I know, polly has his partisan blinders on once again.


You said that Carney stated unequivocally that Benghazi was not under investigation and was due to the video. The transcript shows that you're wrong. I know that you like to view everything in the light most unfavorable to Obama, but you're just wrong.
 
They are right...less than 120 MINUTES have expired since the tragedy occurred, but President Obama is TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE and should have had every single fact checked, re-checked and verified and then gotten those fact checked facts out to the public!

He shouldn't have sat there doe-eyed with his My Pet Goat book doing NOTHING! ....Oh wait, that was a different president and only 15 minutes, sans the Vegas fundraising trip and two weeks of lying and denying it was a terrorist attack, then lying that it was defined as one in the Rose Garden, and then back again to denying it was ever really known at the time...

FUCKING AMAZING!
 
It's not a report about what a group said on facebook. There are EMAILS which reveal the White House had been notified this was a TERRORIST ATTACK and NOT a "spontaneous uprising" as Carney continued to bark for two more weeks. You people are fucking AMAZING... Last week you were all trying to claim Obama clearly called this a terrorist attack in his Rose Garden speech on 9/12. Now we're having to revert back and believe they didn't have all the information and it was being investigated and no one really knew what it was? Can't you people make up your minds? I guess that's why Rana is now trying to find a way to claim it's BOTH... They knew it was a terrorist attack but they didn't know! They knew it was planned and coordinated by an alQaeda group, but they didn't know! They KNEW they could probably save the Ambassador, but they weren't sure! They claimed they had diminished alQaeda's ability to launch such attacks, but they can't admit that was wrong, so this somehow HAS to be BOTH!

Go fucking look up the word SOCIOPATH please?


The EMAILS are about what the TERRORIST GROUP said on the FACEBOOK PAGE and TWITTER account. The CIA said for the next 11 DAYS in the PRESIDENTIAL DAILY BRIEFING that the ATTACKS were SPONTANEOUS PROTESTS following the protests in CAIRO, but CONTINUED (and CONTINUES) to investigate.

Maybe randomly capitalizing words will help you understand these very basic facts that you continue to get completely wrong.
 
Oh nonononono!! They are right...less than 120 MINUTES have expired since the tragedy occurred, but President Obama is TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE and should have had every single fact checked, re-checked and verified and then gotten those fact checked facts out to the public!

actually, I think the point is that Obama should not have said 14 hours later that it was Fact A, when twelve hours earlier he was informed it was Fact B.........
 
The EMAILS are about what the TERRORIST GROUP said on the FACEBOOK PAGE and TWITTER account. The CIA said for the next 11 DAYS in the PRESIDENTIAL DAILY BRIEFING that the ATTACKS were SPONTANEOUS PROTESTS following the protests in CAIRO, but CONTINUED (and CONTINUES) to investigate.

Maybe randomly capitalizing words will help you understand these very basic facts that you continue to get completely wrong.

We don't know what the CIA knew OR told the president. I'm sure the details will come out in the Congressional Hearings, if they aren't classified. In fact, a whole lot is going to come out on this as time goes by... but the 2-hour thing is a bombshell.

Ya boy is about to LOSE his ass off in a couple of weeks, and even IF he don't, Benghazi will be his political undoing in the end.

This probably sealed the deal for ANY undecided voter out there, but the political implications aside, the WHOLE TRUTH needs to be told, and we need to find out why we were misled and misinformed about the events, and what could have been done to prevent the loss of American lives. Back your ears, because a LOT OF US are livid over this, and it's NOT going away!
 
That is nonsense... this was Carney a few days after the attack...

That isn't a hedge and he is not the only one to say it in such a matter of fact way. He did not hedge it with a 'we are still investigating'. He outright blamed the video.

This is simply not true. See again the quote from Carney above. If need be, I would imagine I can find one that occurred right after the attacks.

No, it does not seem like this was an attack based on the video. Who are you hearing that is still suggesting anything of the kind?

I am not suggesting they purposely misled at first. But after the first week, the mentions of the video should have stopped. No one said it was Obama's fault, but he most certainly did respond poorly. He should have sent in fighter support, he should have sent in special forces, he should not have had his admin spokespeople blaming the video, the State Dept should have had better security at the embassy. There were plenty of mistakes.

Yes, very easily. His admin personnel continued saying that it was due to the video. So Obama saying it was an act of terror while others in his admin were saying a video sparked it seems to indicate he either had no clue or he had no control over his subordinates.

Yes, you are spouting partisan nonsense.

Are you this incapable of making sense of the information or are you just lying?

The quoted text is Carney talking about the unrest in Egypt! That was aboslutely about the video.
 
ROFLMAO...

Funny where you cut off.... just for the record, here is the entire thing.... the only thing I am cutting is the parts not pertaining to the attacks...

The only thing you are proving is that you don't have the capacity to understand what you are reading.

The protest/unrest in Cairo and around the region were absolutely about the video. There appears to be more to what happened in Benghazi. That is why they were investigating and said there may be more to that.
 
F and F was dropped by your team the minute the spotlight really hit it.

then everyone saw what fucking liars you people are so the right dropped it instantly
F&F wasn't dropped, your beloved President pulled a Nixon and punted it until after the election by claiming executive privilege. And this only proves that the left is willing to sacrifice the lives of brown people if the Truth is inconvenient.
 
We don't know what the CIA knew OR told the president. I'm sure the details will come out in the Congressional Hearings, if they aren't classified. In fact, a whole lot is going to come out on this as time goes by... but the 2-hour thing is a bombshell.

Ya boy is about to LOSE his ass off in a couple of weeks, and even IF he don't, Benghazi will be his political undoing in the end.

This probably sealed the deal for ANY undecided voter out there, but the political implications aside, the WHOLE TRUTH needs to be told, and we need to find out why we were misled and misinformed about the events, and what could have been done to prevent the loss of American lives. Back your ears, because a LOT OF US are livid over this, and it's NOT going away!

The email was based on Lybian reports about the facebook/twitter postings of Ansar al Sharia where they claimed claimed responsibility for leading a "spontaneous uprising" in response to the video.

If voters are as stupid as you then we deserve Romney.
 
The email was based on Lybian reports about the facebook/twitter postings of Ansar al Sharia where they claimed claimed responsibility for leading a "spontaneous uprising" in response to the video.

If voters are as stupid as you then we deserve Romney.

Well again... you are now claiming facebook/twitter posts aren't reliable evidence, but you've argued that a YouTube video caused protests and uprisings. Face it, you morons just pick and choose what "truth" you're going to tell on a minute-by-minute basis! It doesn't matter if what you say contradicts what you just said, we're supposed to forget that and just hear what you're lying out your ass about NOW!

I tell ya what we DON'T deserve... "Leaders" who LIE and MISLEAD while jaunting off to Vegas to raise money for their political campaigns, while an Ambassador is hold-up in a bunker waiting for a rescue that isn't coming! And to have YOU still trying to SPIN your way out of this, is PATHETIC!
 
The quoted text is Carney talking about the unrest in Egypt! That was aboslutely about the video.

so let's look at the timeline...

there was this video no one was paying any attention to....
Libyan terrorists attack embassy in retaliation for the death of one of their leaders a couple of days earlier....
White House points at the video....
the ME notices the video....
passions are inflamed....
multiple embassies are attacked......

does that about cover it?......
 
Is Napolitano the only one with the courage to tell the truth? A truth too deep for colonized minds.

Silence on Libya

The final presidential debate earlier this week was a tailor-made opportunity for Mitt Romney to rip into President Obama’s inconsistent, value-free, and at times incoherent foreign policy. And it was also an opportunity for the president to explain his administration’s material misrepresentations on the murders of our ambassador and others in Libya. Instead, we heard silence from both of them on this topic.

One can conclude from this that the president uttered a silent sigh of relief when he dodged a bullet. And one can conclude that Romney wanted to look and sound presidential and emphasize his economic credentials and allay fears that he wants another war. Whatever the gain and whatever the strategy, this matter of American deaths in Libya is of vital importance to American voters.

It is important because it shows how far the American government has drifted from the confines of the Constitution and how far we as a people have drifted from the rule of law. The president bombed Libya last year in a successful effort to remove Col. Gadhafi from power. Gadhafi was a monster, but he kept the streets safe, the mobs from foreign embassies and consulates, and the terrorists in jail.

In 2005, President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair praised Gadhafi as a partner in the war on terror because he disposed of his nuclear weaponry and he arrested and resisted al-Qaeda operatives. Obama, who last year claimed he did not have the time to seek authorization from Congress to bomb Libya as the Constitution requires but did have the time to seek approvals from NATO and the Arab League, also claimed at the time and as recently as last Monday night that there were no American boots on the ground during the bombing. That, of course, is patently false and is known to be false.

American fighter planes (boots in the skies) would not be sent to bomb a foreign land without guidance from troops on the ground. I suspect that by “boots,” Obama meant “uniforms.” We know that American intelligence agents and American Special Forces — neither of whose personnel wear uniforms, but most of whom no doubt wear boots on their feet in the Libyan desert — were there, are still there, and were providing intelligence about Gadhafi and his military to aid the assault by U.S. warplanes.

The assault was devastating not only to the Gadhafi government, but also to the Libyan people. It destroyed much of Libyan authority structures as they then existed. Not only were Libyan government personnel and buildings and equipment destroyed, but so were Libyan intelligence agents and assets, police stations, roads and bridges, and innocent civilians, as well. This resulted not only in the death of Gadhafi and the destruction of his government, but also in a vacuum into which moved the roving gangs of militias who reign there today. The militias opened up Gadhafi’s jails and released many of the prisoners Bush and Blair had praised Gadhafi for incarcerating.

Fast-forward to Sept. 11 of this year, and some of these al-Qaeda-led-and-populated gangs murdered our ambassador and his colleagues. The Obama administration — which knew of the al-Qaeda role in all this and knew that the president’s unconstitutional behavior facilitated that role — denied what it knew and dispatched the American ambassador to the U.N., Susan Rice, to deliver lies to the American public. Rice claimed on five TV shows that U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed by the spontaneous reaction of ordinary Libyans to a cheap Hollywood-made YouTube clip about Mohammed — not by an organized terrorist gang.

Shortly after Stevens’ murder, European newspapers began to speculate that though Stevens was the bona fide U.S. ambassador to Libya, he was also a member of the U.S. intelligence community, as were his now-murdered colleagues. Earlier this week, my colleagues at Fox News discovered that the building in which they were killed was and was known locally to be a CIA facility, and that the future Ambassador Stevens had used that facility to meet with Libyan rebels during the Gadhafi years.

Now we can connect some dots. If Stevens was a CIA agent, he was in violation of international law by acting as the U.S. ambassador. And if he and his colleagues were intelligence officials, they are not typically protected by Marines, because they ought to have been able to take care of themselves. And if Rice knowingly lied to the American public about a matter as grave as this, she should be fired, no matter who asked her to lie. And 14 days before a crucial presidential election, when both major-party candidates have an audience of 60 million voters, why were they mysteriously silent about all this? Might U.S. intelligence agents who routinely brief Romney have whispered the same instructions into his ear that they received from the president when they briefed him?

I still think Romney has a far better understanding of economic forces and a far superior appreciation for the free market than does Obama. But I had hoped he could demonstrate a better understanding of the proper role of the U.S. in foreign lands than has the president.

On this from Romney, thus far we have heard only silence; from the president, only boasts.
http://original.antiwar.com/andrew-p-napolitano/2012/10/24/silence-on-libya/
 
I think this is much ado about nothing.

It proves that republicans will NOT stand behind a president if hes not from their party.


They are the party over country party
 
I think this is much ado about nothing.

It proves that republicans will NOT stand behind a president if hes not from their party.


They are the party over country party

Unfortunately the exact same thing can be said of democrats.

NDAA .. not a peep from democrats

Obama's extrajudicial killings of Americans without trial .. not a peep from democrats

Obama attacked and destroyed a peaceful and prosperous Libya which posed NO THREAT to America .. not a peep from democrats

Obama's drone wars that are killing more innocent people than terrorists .. killing women, children, and babies .. and are the true reason behind Muslim protests .. not a peep from democrats

Had any of this and more been the work of George Bush, democrats would be screaming at the top of their lungs.
 
the taliban shot a teen aged girl.

Its not the real reason they hate us.


I dont approve of EVERYTHING that this country does.


I never in my life have no matter who was president.


I KNOW for a fact that Robmoney will be more Bush.


we live in an imperfect world.

Im trying to improve it.


Your trying to fight reality.

Obama is the only choice if you want this country to move yet closer to the land we both dream of my brother
 
the taliban shot a teen aged girl.

Its not the real reason they hate us.


I dont approve of EVERYTHING that this country does.


I never in my life have no matter who was president.


I KNOW for a fact that Robmoney will be more Bush.


we live in an imperfect world.

Im trying to improve it.


Your trying to fight reality.

Obama is the only choice if you want this country to move yet closer to the land we both dream of my brother

Much respect for you good sister .. but Obama represents little of nothing I want to see in a world passed to my children.

The Taliban shooting a teenage girl has nothing to do with why they hate us. Israel's shoot Palestinian children in the head all the time.

They hate us because we invade, bomb, and destroy their societies and mass-murder their people.

Obama's drones are the very definition of terrorism.

These are things that democrats USED to be against.

Obama has taken the Democratic Party further right than it has been since the days of slavery.

That's not my dream of a better future.

That's a nightmare.
 
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