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maineman said:
then your point remains irrelevant. There is no indication that Darla was trying to eliminate dissension, only that she preferred not to discuss this with repugnant assholes. Unfortunately, in this case, she missed one.
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Everyone thread-banned disagrees with her on most political issues. She seeks to stifle debate, not seek the truth.
 
blackascoal said:
How is it "ripping them off" when they need it?

Oklahoma got 67 billion dollars in 1999 and they're going to need at least that much again.

Where is the logic to your argument .. AND, most importantly, your argument is not in the best interests of the people of Oklahoma who need all the help from the federal government they can get .. many of whom are already on food stamps.

Your argument is only in the best interests of your ideology .. not the people of Oklahoma.
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blackascoal said:
Not in Oklahoma they don't.

Your argument is all about 'the feds' not about the best interests of Oklahoma.
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You seem to be missing the points I'm making entirely. Perhaps you should re-read my earlier posts. Or you're doing it on purpose.

1. The feds are ripping us all off by excessive government. If not for high taxes more folks could afford charity. Before GovCo neighbors routinely chipped in to help each other out. Associations formed to provide help if the bread-winner died, for example. Heck, it was even common for a man to marry his brother's widow to raise her kids.
2. 67 billion in 14 years is chump change for charities.
3. Everyone seems to be neglecting insurance.
4. The charities that have already responded are from outside of the affected state.
 
DamnYankee said:
The first folks to truck in aid were Christian charities. With them OK doesn't need the government.
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Bullshit. The first is the Red Cross. But that's cool...we can save the money and not send any to Oklahoma. They're all teabaggers anyhow.

DamnYankee said:
Darla fucked up by not banning me from this thread like she does all her others, lol. She hates dissension, which is the purpose of free speech.
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No, she hates trolls. Which you are and which is the intent of thread ban.

DamnYankee said:
If the feds weren't taxing everyone so heavily then charities would be able to spend more. The first folks trucking in relief were from outside the state...
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What fucking drugs are you on? Church charities aren't taxed*. They're 501(c)(4) exempt. The greatest majority of foodstuffs they donate are from individuals or places like Second Harvest here in Florida.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf

*Although they should be. The 501(c)(4) status should be removed from any group that pursues any political agenda.



WinterBorn said:
Charities are often the first groups in with relief. The way they are structured makes it easier for them to get boots on the ground on short notice. But what the first wave does is not about rebuilding. The first wave is about relief. They provide food, shelter, and some basic facilities that help the people stagger back to their feet.

The long term help is what is needed. Tuscaloosa AL was slammed by tornadoes in April of 2011. Many areas have not had more than rubble removal. It will be years before Tuscaloosa recovers.
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See above. The Red Cross is prepared to be the first responder. Churches aren't.
 
Howey said:
Bullshit. The first is the Red Cross. But that's cool...we can save the money and not send any to Oklahoma. They're all teabaggers anyhow.

What fucking drugs are you on? Church charities aren't taxed*. They're 501(c)(4) exempt.
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1. The Red Cross has roots as a private Christian charity. You just made my point for me.
2. I find your bigotry and hatred of those who you cannot possibly know amusing.
3. Citizens are taxed, and could donate more to charities if GovCo wasn't ripping them off.
 
DamnYankee said:
1. The Red Cross has roots as a private Christian charity. You just made my point for me.
2. I find your bigotry and hatred of those who you cannot possibly know amusing.
3. Citizens are taxed, and could donate more to charities if GovCo wasn't ripping them off.
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1. No, it isn't. It was founded by Clara Barton, a nurse and also supports blood drives. Dumbfuck.
2. Looking in a mirror?
3. So you admit I'm right and are backtracking again?
 
Howey said:
1. No, it isn't. It was founded by Clara Barton, a nurse and also supports blood drives. Dumbfuck.
2. Looking in a mirror?
3. So you admit I'm right and are backtracking again?
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1. Where do you thing the cross comes from?
2. No, a window.
3. Not at all. My position has always been that if GovCo wasn't ripping citizens off, they would be giving more to charities. Nearly all charities are tax exempt; that fact is inconsequential.
 
DamnYankee said:
1. Where do you thing the cross comes from?
2. No, a window.
3. Not at all. My position has always been that if GovCo wasn't ripping citizens off, they would be giving more to charities. Nearly all charities are tax exempt; that fact is inconsequential.
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But you just said charities pay taxes! You're either lying or backtracking.

You tell me what the red cross means, mkay?
 
Darla said:
Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe (R) said on Tuesday that federal aid to tornado-ravaged parts of his home state will be "totally different" than a Hurricane Sandy aid bill he voted against late last year.

Speaking on MSNBC, the lawmaker said that in the case of Hurricane Sandy, "everybody was getting in and exploiting the tragedy that took place." However, he said, "that won't happen in Oklahoma."

full story

The good people of Oklahoma vote this horrible man in every chance they get. They own this. I have rarely been so disgusted by my fellow Americans.
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inhofe and coburn are real anuses and a real example of the repugs

the Oklahomans are fools for voting for them
 
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DumnYankmee said:
1. The Red Cross has roots as a private Christian charity. You just made my point for me.
2. I find your bigotry and hatred of those who you cannot possibly know amusing.
3. Citizens are taxed, and could donate more to charities if GovCo wasn't ripping them off.
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This is where DumnYankme got schooled. He said "The Red Cross has roots as a private Christian charity" and then when he sees it was NEVER a private christian charity he makes up some shit about the swiss flag cross being a Christian symbol ergo because the ICRC uses it it MUST also be a Christian organization. Just admit when you talk out of your anus and then get called on it instead of trying to make your original statement above look like something else.
 
After the french July Revolution of 1830, liberal politicians regained strength in Switzerland and demanded for more centralistic institutions. Therefore also the question of uniforms and a common flag for all swiss troops was discussed in the 1830's. In 1840 finally, the flag with the Swiss Cross was introduced for all troops. The later general Dufour was an advocate of this flag. By replacing the cantonal banners in the Swiss Army, the Swiss Flag was a key element in the process leading to national (instead of cantonal) identity and in the strenghtening of central institutions of the federal state created with the 1848 federal constitution.

So the Red flag with the white cross was the symbol of a STRONG CENTRAL GOVERNMENT. Talk about swinging for the fence and getting nothing.
 
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