Republicans V Democrats: The Difference

PostmodernProphet said:
true, but destroying the healthcare system we had in place was a liberal issue.......
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You mean where health insurance provided shit coverage and lifetime caps if you were lucky enough to get it, and where families were one illness away from bankruptcy?

Obamacare is shit (especially since Trump and Republicans began actively sabotaging it), but what you had before was beyond garbage. Obama's mistake was to not adopt single payer, and instead propped up the broken insurance market. Which was ultimately a Republican plan to begin with (the 1990s Bob Dole healthcare plan that Gingrich supported).
 
tsuke said:
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Republicans V Democrats: The Difference

One of the most interesting things to see is the difference between the reactions of Democrats and Republicans to Trump and Obama. The reaction shows why one side has been successful, managing to reduce the Democrats to their lowest level of power since the 1920s, and the other side has been flailing. *

Republicans

The republican reaction can be exemplified with the famous quote of Mitch McConnell. He said he would make sure that Obama would be a one term president. Liberals and Democrats hated that but in reality Republicans are supposed to help other Republicans win. This is doubly true for the majority leader who is supposed to increase the size of his coalition.

By acknowledging that Obama would be a one term president Republicans acknowledged their loss and prepared for the next election. They did an autopsy to find out what was wrong and attempted to win enough other races in other levels to increase the size of their coalitions. Please note that the autopsy was dumb and came to all the wrong conclusions but at the very least the attempt was made. A defeat for the Republicans would have been the Democrats winning the elections 4 and 8 years after Obama was elected.

There was a small faction of Republicans, which Trump was part of, which did not accept the loss and tried to have Obama removed before his time with the birther issue. The fact is they were a small faction without any political power. The ones who were actually planning the strategy of the party had accepted the loss.

Democrats

Democrats have still not accepted their loss to Trump. Having been told their whole lives that demographics is destiny and that Republicans would never win again without cheating they have not been able to emotionally process losing to President Trump. This prevents them from looking at the events of 2016 objectively and creating an autopsy like the Republicans did. Since they have not accepted the loss they focus on short term objectives like removing Trump from power as opposed to long term ones like restoring their party to power.*

We are not talking about a small faction like the birthers in the Republican party but rather the entire party. This means that all political strategy only looks at short term effects. Every scandal has to be played up as the one that will finally impeach Trump exhausting the populace and the credibility of the media. A loss for Democrats is if Trump makes it to the next election as the President. The danger is that by next election the Democrats would have exhausted their outrage machine by so much that no one will listen to them.*

One side uses cold calculation and logic while the other uses mass hysterics and we can see the results.
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And the evidence of this Bold Assertions is the set of your OWN Bold Assertions above?
 
cawacko said:
I can't read this rambling but McConnell said he was willing to work with Obama if Obama was willing to work with him and if not he wanted to make him a one term President. Not sure why he said that publicly but point being he also said he was willing to work with him.
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and where did he say that?
 
cawacko said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html?utm_term=.d40ecd9f1d0c
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NJ: What’s the job?

McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

NJ: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?

McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.

There it is, in order of priority.....notice how it is conditioned on some kind of "surrender"....and here he goes on to explain what he expects


NJ: What are the big issues?

McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.

NJ: What will you seek from the president on the tax issue?

McConnell: At the very least, I believe we should extend all of the Bush tax cuts. And I prefer to describe this as keeping current tax policy. It’s been on the books for 10 years. Now, how long that [extension] is, is something we can discuss. It was clear his position was not [favored] among all Senate Democrats. They had their own divisions. I don’t think those divisions are going to be any less in November and December.

So McConnell's biggest concern was that Obama be obliged to maintain a fiscal policy which had proven a complete disaster, and which would hamstring any fiscal discretion he may have wanted to exercise....

Mind you, this is after McConnell and Company had completely blown up the Federal budget over the previous 8 years.....and even worse, spent VAST quantities forward.......



But what was the GOP REALLY doing?


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-republicans-plan-for-the-new-president/
 
The biggest difference is the the right is made up entirely of wooden mannequins controlled by Clint Eastwood, who as we all know had his heart replaced with an empty can of pinto beans.

On the other hand, the left is just the cast of Who's the Boss shot from multiple angles and digitally enhanced for 4k televisions.

See? I can ramble nonsense too.
 
Mr.Badguy said:
The biggest difference is the the right is made up entirely of wooden mannequins controlled by Clint Eastwood, who as we all know had his heart replaced with an empty can of pinto beans.

On the other hand, the left is just the cast of Who's the Boss shot from multiple angles and digitally enhanced for 4k televisions.

See? I can ramble nonsense too.
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Damn, was hoping you had an Alyssa Milano picture to go along with the reference.
 
Amadeus said:
You mean where health insurance provided shit coverage and lifetime caps if you were lucky enough to get it, and where families were one illness away from bankruptcy?

Obamacare is shit (especially since Trump and Republicans began actively sabotaging it), but what you had before was beyond garbage. Obama's mistake was to not adopt single payer, and instead propped up the broken insurance market. Which was ultimately a Republican plan to begin with (the 1990s Bob Dole healthcare plan that Gingrich supported).
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I bet some lib'rul told you that was what we had.......and you were stupid enough to believe them.......nothing about my care changed after Obamacare, but my premiums doubled and my deductible doubled.....
 
Mr.Badguy said:
The biggest difference is the the right is made up entirely of wooden mannequins controlled by Clint Eastwood, who as we all know had his heart replaced with an empty can of pinto beans.

On the other hand, the left is just the cast of Who's the Boss shot from multiple angles and digitally enhanced for 4k televisions.

See? I can ramble nonsense too.
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so the difference is we substitute Clint Eastwood for Johnny Depp?.......
 
Amadeus said:
OKAY!



I try to call it out, but then you show up and invite the racists to America to harass Elizabeth Warren (because scalping is just that funny, right?).
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That is pretty much a non answer. You are quite good at that. Let me ask you again, what are you doing about the growing racism problem in Canada? Focus now.
 
Sailor said:
That is pretty much a non answer. You are quite good at that. Let me ask you again, what are you doing about the growing racism problem in Canada? Focus now.
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How is it a non-answer? Explain. I called it out in another thread as an issue in Canada, which caused you to invite the pro-scalping racists over to America to confront Elizabeth Warren. That's how you got into this mess. Because you're a lowlife who thinks scalping is funny.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I bet some lib'rul told you that was what we had.......and you were stupid enough to believe them.......nothing about my care changed after Obamacare, but my premiums doubled and my deductible doubled.....
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Enjoy lifetime caps on HMOs if you get cancer, trumpateer.

"I'm sorry, but it's time to die now" the new republican plan.
 
Amadeus said:
How is it a non-answer? Explain. I called it out in another thread as an issue in Canada, which caused you to invite the pro-scalping racists over to America to confront Elizabeth Warren. That's how you got into this mess. Because you're a lowlife who thinks scalping is funny.
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Nice for me that ignorant troll is on your leg for a change.
 
I better clarify ... the video, while humorous, is not exactly how I feel on the topic. Not exactly...
 
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