I am a huge fan of both women, but it was a Centrist that the blacks voted for as President, why do you think that is?
Rep. Abigail Spanberger (VA-D) - Never use the words 'socialist' or 'socialism'
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Says who? The only people I've seen bitching about BLM are RWNJs. Of course, with JPP's plague of sock puppets, it's difficult to know if Lefties are playing Righties and vice versa or if there's only 1-2 RWNJs and an army of sock puppets. I've stopped trying to guess who is who and am focusing on if a username is a liar and/or a hater.
Obviously, like any organization, BLM has some nutjobs in it. The SDS had the Weathermen. The Republicans have Trumpeteers. I fail to see why the main complaints of the BLM aren't a legitimate political topic. https://www.splcenter.org/news/2016/07/19/black-lives-matter-not-hate-group
....There’s no doubt that some protesters who claim the mantle of Black Lives Matter have said offensive things, like the chant “pigs in a blanket, fry ‘em like bacon” that was heard at one rally. But before we condemn the entire movement for the words of a few, we should ask ourselves whether we would also condemn the entire Republican Party for the racist words of its presumptive nominee – or for the racist rhetoric of many other politicians in the party over the course of years. ...
...Black Lives Matter is not a hate group. But the perception that it is racist illustrates the problem. Our society as a whole still does not accept that racial injustice remains pervasive. And, unfortunately, the fact that white people tend to see race as a zero-sum game may actually impede progress....
According to Political Compass, Biden isn't so Centrist.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
You actually make two good points my friend. Many voted against Trump then they did for Joe Biden, and they, especiaay young voters were convinced of voting by the same two women that you and I both admire. Biden comes with a checked past, but his selection of Harris was enough promise for a better future to convince them to trust him.
Black women are the heroines of this story .. make that progressive black women no doubt who have assumed the leadership that black men once held.
The highlighted is important, because the i.e. is a MUCH better description than 'defund the police'. I know what that phrase means, but millions of Americans hear that and become the bull seeing the red cape. It is what it is. I agree with the policy, just not the packaging. Presentation is important. I don't think progressives need to prove they are progressive with sound bites. I think the message should be delivered exactly as you did in describing police reform.
As for Stacey Abrams...... my son considers her the hero of this election (and hopefully the one in January). He can't stop talking about what she accomplished in Georgia. That's why there's hope. I still think the packaging is important. I agree that people have the right to express themselves in any manner they chose. But there are consequences, and if you are prepared to deal with those, have at it. I just don't think it's realistic to say there are no consequences.
Black Women are the heroines! I look forward to many of them in the Biden administration. I like Joe for these times, he like a comfortable old sweater.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I appreciate those thoughts even though you and I don’t always agree.
No one nor any group is above construitive criticism, which is also true of BLM. That being said, BLM has been more effective at not only bringing the truth of police brutality and injustice to the world and into the faces ofAmericans reluctant to believe the truth, AND in getting laws passed to reform shoot first police practices than anything during the Civil Rights Era, including Dr. king. That sounds almost like blasphemy to me, but it’s the truth.
BLM to me is a glaring example that the problem is NOT white people, just some white people, and I often use that example in discussions with other black people who believe the problem is white people. I point out the huge support for BLM by conscious whites that cannot be ignored .. even support from a great many corporations for BLM that also cannot be ignored.
Centrist democrats lash out at liberal colleagues and blame the far left views for costing the party seats.
Included in those supposedly seat costing views are associations with BLM. Goggle that article for context.
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blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I absolutely agree with everything you just said good brother, but this is a life or death issue that seems to be occurring every single day, My son is/was a cop who was murdered last month. He was killed by an inmate, but both he and I have always believed in and supported BLM and understood what defund the police means. Had his department spent more resources on protecting its own officers and less on weapons of mass destruction, my son would still be alive today. For the black community these are desperate and critical times, not a time for nuanced words, but again, I get your point and I agree with you.
It's identifying someone for what they are. If a RINO considers it a threat, they may as well call themselves a Democrat as they are nothing more than a snowflake.
There you go again thinking agreement with you equates to intelligence and being sane. Someone doing that, meaning you, proves they're neither.
You sound like one of the RINOs. You are what you are because you chose to be that way not because someone forced you to do it.
The black community, specifically the plantation blacks, are in critical times. They have a choice to either stay on the plantation and be house niggers or start choosing a different path that will produce better results that being self imposed slaves to the Democrats.
I never put people on ignore, but you are getting close when you use words like Hitler, and SS, to describe conservatives, keep it up you may be my first ignore!
evince
Truthmatters
The far left of the party gave it that title to attract attention to the discussion
The second I saw the title my first words were
Why not title it dead babies
It would be just as descriptive of the plan and would be equally as distructive of its ability to describe the whole thing
The far left at times destroys their own ability to reach people
Maybe they will learn to stop fucking things up where they could find success
The second I saw the title my first words were
Why not title it dead babies
It would be just as descriptive of the plan and would be equally as distructive of its ability to describe the whole thing
The far left at times destroys their own ability to reach people
Maybe they will learn to stop fucking things up where they could find success
Very sorry for your loss. I understand and respect your passion.
evince
Truthmatters
Oh Bac
What a horrible tragedy
He and you have paid such a price for this nations failures
I know it’s not much but I will thinking of of him, you and all his loved one until the day I die
He and your family should have never had to pay this price
I will imagine surrounding you in love in hopes it reaches you somehow as long as I breathe
Travel well young man
I’m Done for the day here now
Love is floating your way Bac
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Thank much good sister. If you like I will send you news articles about the murder of my son, but I warn you that it will only make you feel worse by the manner in which he was killed. I’m only now getting to talk about it because my son was the nicest person I have ever met. Now he’s gone.
The only choice.