Renewables are useless: The Evidence is Overwhelming

The Dude said:
Tesla can go cross country for free
Keep using your dial up phone
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The new Model 3 only has a range of 200+ miles, so how many times would you need to stop to charge up the batteries on a cross country run? Especially when it takes 3-4 hours to fully charge each time? Even with the much vaunted superchargers it still takes over an hour, so effectively you are adding at least 12 hours to the journey time and probably a lot more than that if you include an extra night's stopover.
 
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The Dude said:
Word
But that's no reason to not be less polluting
Drive electric
It's cheaper, cooler, cleaner
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Unfortunately they do not make an electric vehicle that could do what I would need it to do for me. Maybe one day but realistically I don't see it happening for a long time.
 
Milagro said:
Somebody needs to tell this clown that Google invested $168 million in the Ivanpah Solar Power Facility!! Geothermal power does have merit in that it is dispatchable and cheap to run. However I am surprised that the treehuggers haven't got on their case as they have with fracking, I wonder why not?
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Geothermal is not destructive like fracking retard.

What is your point about Ivanpah?
Ivanpah is being described as a stunning success,
also disproving your intellectually and moraly bankrupt thesis.
Fucking idgit.
 
Milagro said:
The new Model 3 only has a range of 200+ miles, so how many times would you need to stop to charge up the batteries on a cross country run? Especially when it takes 3-4 hours to fully charge each time? Even with the much vaunted superchargers it still takes over an hour, so effectively you are adding at least 12 hours to the journey time and probably a lot more than that if you include an extra night's stopover.
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Yes Tom, one model.
The lowly Volt has a range of well over 400 miles as well as other Tesla models.
 
Rune said:
What is your requirement that you think is unavailable?
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Can any electric vehicle tow over say 10,000 pounds????
Can any electric vehicle hold in the back a handful of saddles, bridles, additional tack, hundreds of pounds of feed and hay and things like that???
 
Rune said:
UPS has a fleet of electric trucks
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I'm sorry but that did not answer my questions about how that helps me. Are you suggesting that I have UPS tow my horses and everything else related to it around Texas? Also I doubt a UPS truck is carrying that much weight as what my truck has to tow and carry on a regular basis. One horse weights over 1000 pounds and that doesn't even consider the trailer and equipment that goes with it.
 
The simple truth is that they do not currently make electric vehicles that I or my parents could realistically use to get the job done. Maybe in the future but not right now. Thats not an insult towards renewables it's just the truth.
 
Milagro said:
The new Model 3 only has a range of 200+ miles, so how many times would you need to stop to charge up the batteries on a cross country run? Especially when it takes 3-4 hours to fully charge each time? Even with the much vaunted superchargers it still takes over an hour, so effectively you are adding at least 12 hours to the journey time and probably a lot more than that if you include an extra night's stopover.
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Use your dial up Internet
Electric cars are the future
 
Cowgirl Tuff said:
Unfortunately they do not make an electric vehicle that could do what I would need it to do for me. Maybe one day but realistically I don't see it happening for a long time.
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Right now they aren't for the masses
I'd bet that the model 3 gas savings when not towing would pay for a tow truck
 
Cowgirl Tuff said:
I'm sorry but that did not answer my questions about how that helps me. Are you suggesting that I have UPS tow my horses and everything else related to it around Texas? Also I doubt a UPS truck is carrying that much weight as what my truck has to tow and carry on a regular basis. One horse weights over 1000 pounds and that doesn't even consider the trailer and equipment that goes with it.
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The direct answer to your question is yes there are electric trucks that meet your needs.
The example is UPS.
 
Cowgirl Tuff said:
The simple truth is that they do not currently make electric vehicles that I or my parents could realistically use to get the job done. Maybe in the future but not right now. Thats not an insult towards renewables it's just the truth.
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What research have you done to make such a statement?
The fact is you can take heavey duty pickup such as a F-350 dually and have it converted to electric drive (with an optional range extending generator) at any decent engineering shop.
Because of the space available under the bed and in the engine compartment (after the removal of the engine) you could choose your range by buying as many batteries as you need. Also you can use simple off the shelf lead acid batteries so the job is eminently afordable.

Typically an electric fork lift motor is slightly modified and adapted to a manual transmission.
Automatics can be used at a cost if range loss.

A great candidate for conversion is an otherwise good truck with a blown motor. (a situation one will never face again as an industrial electric motor will last for 50 to 100 years and still be repairable.)
 
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