Remember when Republicans were for Religious Freedom

Crashk said:
"You wingnuts invented a magical, arbitrary definition of ground zero, or "hallowed ground", so you could have an excuse to keep harrassing these american muslims. The fact that the wingnutosphere has managed to misinform a lot of americans renders all the poll shit you post bullshit. People are completely misinformed at this point."

Sounds familiar. Misinformation from Faux news. Bullshit issues like this are only thing the right has. Anything to deflect blame on brown skinned people and hide the fact that their economic policies have brought this country down, which is the real issue.

911=Islam=Obama=Dems is what Faux news entertainers want you to believe at election time. What bullshit.
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Ridiculous. Obama admitted it was "hallowed ground" in his Iftar speech. It's not something the "right wing media" made up, and just for your pinhead info, it's not just the right wing who is opposed to this... if it is, you guys are in a WHOLE lot of trouble politically. Is Howard Dean and Harry Reid now part of this "vast right wing conspiracy?"
 
Dixie said:
Flew commercial airliners full of innocent Americans into WTC towers 1 & 2 on Sept. 11, 2001. Did you miss it?
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Rauf and Khan were not involved in 9/11. You don't get to punish all Muslims for the crimes of a few, you collectivist retard.
 
RStringfield said:
Rauf and Khan were not involved in 9/11. You don't get to punish all Muslims for the crimes of a few, you collectivist retard.
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How do you know they weren't? More specifically, how do you know the funding isn't coming from those who were? No one is talking about "punishing all Muslims" just denying the ones who want to build a trophy of conquest at ground zero. It's obvious Rauf and Khan aren't interested in "outreach" as they proclaimed, because this isn't generating the atmosphere for outreach at all, it's doing exactly the opposite of their stated objective. Therefore, we must examine what they claim a bit closer, because it doesn't fit with reality.
 
RStringfield said:
BS!!!! Paladino did not say he would stop the mosque by participating in a protest. He clearly stated he would use the government power of eminent domain to stop it. You have been proven wrong.
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I based my response off of the video clip YOU posted dork!

So he wishes to seek a legal means to stop it? One other than the 1st amendment right to religious freedom? FUCKING GREAT! WOOOOO-HOOOO! WAY TO FUCKING GO!!!!
 
Ice Dancer said:
I based my response off of the video clip YOU posted dork!

So he wishes to seek a legal means to stop it? One other than the 1st amendment right to religious freedom? FUCKING GREAT! WOOOOO-HOOOO! WAY TO FUCKING GO!!!!
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The video clip proves your assertion was wrong. There are many on the right trying to deny them the legal right to build the mosque.

Your comments were not relevant to the video clip. You responded with some crap about how people have a right to denounce it or protest against it. That had nothing to do with Paladino's threat.
 
Dixie said:
How do you know they weren't? More specifically, how do you know the funding isn't coming from those who were? No one is talking about "punishing all Muslims" just denying the ones who want to build a trophy of conquest at ground zero. It's obvious Rauf and Khan aren't interested in "outreach" as they proclaimed, because this isn't generating the atmosphere for outreach at all, it's doing exactly the opposite of their stated objective. Therefore, we must examine what they claim a bit closer, because it doesn't fit with reality.
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How do we know you were not involved? How do we know you arent funding the Community Center, to make a political issue?
 
Dixie said:
How do you know they weren't? More specifically, how do you know the funding isn't coming from those who were? No one is talking about "punishing all Muslims" just denying the ones who want to build a trophy of conquest at ground zero. It's obvious Rauf and Khan aren't interested in "outreach" as they proclaimed, because this isn't generating the atmosphere for outreach at all, it's doing exactly the opposite of their stated objective. Therefore, we must examine what they claim a bit closer, because it doesn't fit with reality.
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Your statements amount to guilty until proven innocent and a denial of due process rights for Muslims. It is the most vile anti-American position possible.

You have ABSOLUTELY no proof that they were involved and yet you demand they prove they were not? Prove you were not involved!

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PUNISHING ALL MUSLIMS YOU DESPICABLE PIECE OF SHIT.
 
RStringfield said:
Your statements amount to guilty until proven innocent and a denial of due process rights for Muslims. It is the most vile anti-American position possible.

You have ABSOLUTELY no proof that they were involved and yet you demand they prove they were not? Prove you were not involved!

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PUNISHING ALL MUSLIMS YOU DESPICABLE PIECE OF SHIT.
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The imam is on a trip right now seeking funds from iran and saudi arabia, you twat.
 
RStringfield said:
The video clip proves your assertion was wrong. There are many on the right trying to deny them the legal right to build the mosque.

Your comments were not relevant to the video clip. You responded with some crap about how people have a right to denounce it or protest against it. That had nothing to do with Paladino's threat.
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You are totally out of fucking context dork...my comment was to the video you posted...in the video the guy mentions nothing about its legality.

That he is willing as of 8/22 to pursue an eminent domain suit is fucking awesome~

My comments about people having the right to protest and boycott is crap? If you say so stringy....but I think it's working :cof1:

The argument made by idiots was that people against the mosque wished to intrude on the 1st amendment...that has NEVER been the case.

Any legal means whether it be protest; an eminent domain suit...or whatever...is totally fricking awesome...
 
Ice Dancer said:
You are totally out of fucking context dork...my comment was to the video you posted...in the video the guy mentions nothing about its legality.

That he is willing as of 8/22 to pursue an eminent domain suit is fucking awesome~

My comments about people having the right to protest and boycott is crap? If you say so stringy....but I think it's working :cof1:

The argument made by idiots was that people against the mosque wished to intrude on the 1st amendment...that has NEVER been the case.

Any legal means whether it be protest; an eminent domain suit...or whatever...is totally fricking awesome...
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You are out of context, moron. You claimed that the notion that some were attempting to deny them the right to build a church was a straw man and that no one was advocating such a position.

Ice Dancer said:
No one is denying the legal right to build the mosque...that's a fucking straw man
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The Paladino video shows you are wrong.

Your responses since then have been nothing but an attempt to distract attention from your inaccurate claim.

Paladino is not talking about stopping it with a protest. Nobody said anything about "legality" or whatever the fuck it is you are incoherently babbling about.

If you think it's so fucking cool that your Nazi hero wants to use eminent domain to deny them the right to build a mosque, then why the fuck are you lying about it and claiming that no one is attempting to do just that?
 
ID, you are nothing but a spineless snake. One minute you claim no one is denying them the right to build a mosque and the next minute cheering someone that is attempting to do just that. What was it you guys were complaining about with Muslims practicing taqiyya?
 
RStringfield said:
ID, you are nothing but a spineless snake. One minute you claim no one is denying them the right to build a mosque and the next minute cheering someone that is attempting to do just that. What was it you guys were complaining about with Muslims practicing taqiyya?
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No one is denying them a 1st amendment right to build...what part of 1st amendment DON'T you understand. The argument made by idiots such as yourself was that the opposition were attacking the 1st amendment rights of the Imam....WRONG. The opposition has always been about the impropriety of the mosque being built in that particular location!

Until your whiny-ass alerted me to the eminent domain angle I had no idea. Eminent domain is a seperate legal avenue ...note the word legal!

Protest is legal!

You are dildo.
 
RStringfield said:
You are out of context, moron. You claimed that the notion that some were attempting to deny them the right to build a church was a straw man and that no one was advocating such a position.

The Paladino video shows you are wrong.

Your responses since then have been nothing but an attempt to distract attention from your inaccurate claim.

Paladino is not talking about stopping it with a protest. Nobody said anything about "legality" or whatever the fuck it is you are incoherently babbling about.

If you think it's so fucking cool that your Nazi hero wants to use eminent domain to deny them the right to build a mosque, then why the fuck are you lying about it and claiming that no one is attempting to do just that?
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Again dork...the legal argument made by people like you has been a 1st amendment angle. No 1st amendment denying has been made by anyone against the mosque!!!


The video you posted does not discuss a legal action!

That was what I commented to.

You later posted a link to the eminent domain.

You are a dork...
 
Ice Dancer said:
No one is denying them a 1st amendment right to build...what part of 1st amendment DON'T you understand. The argument made by idiots such as yourself was that the opposition were attacking the 1st amendment rights of the Imam....WRONG. The opposition has always been about the impropriety of the mosque being built in that particular location!

Until your whiny-ass alerted me to the eminent domain angle I had no idea. Eminent domain is a seperate legal avenue ...note the word legal!

Protest is legal!

You are dildo.
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Nothing but convoluted and incoherent horseshit. Again, you said...

Ice Dancer said:
No one is denying the legal right to build the mosque...that's a fucking straw man
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Again, you are incorrect. There are those on the right who are most certainly attempting to deny them the right to build a mosque. It is not straw man to point that fact out.

The word "legal" has jack shit to do with your inaccurate claim. You are just trying slither out of your failure.
 
BTW, Paladino's threat to stop the mosque would be a flagrant violation of the first, fifth and fourteenth amendments. It is such a bald attack on those principles I doubt he is serious and is, more than likely, just using it to whip up the hatemongers.
 
RStringfield said:
Nothing but convoluted and incoherent horseshit. Again, you said...
Again, you are incorrect. There are those on the right who are most certainly attempting to deny them the right to build a mosque. It is not straw man to point that fact out.

The word "legal" has jack shit to do with your inaccurate claim. You are just trying slither out of your failure.
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Only incoherent to you dork, becuse your head is brick thick and your brains as clear as mud.

The attempts to stop the building of the mosque are not based on anyones belief that they, the muslims who wish to build it, do not have a first amendment right to build dork. That other legal challenges are being made on different grounds is a legal and reasonable recourse of the opposition to the mosque.

To protest is lawful. If that protest or other lawful and legal actions effectively causes the Imam to NOT build there...then no one is denying him a 1st amendment right!!!
 
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